Gender at interviews?

[TUVIX]

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Looking at the applicant data from AACOMAS here:

https://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2014_Mat.pdf?sfvrsn=12

You can see that the split between genders is close to 50/50 at 54/46 (male/female).

Also, by looking at each school's class profiles you can see that schools aim for 50/50 gender enrollment, as they should, and most are pretty close to that.

Here is my question: I have been on 5 interviews so far and it seems like women are making up a much much smaller percentage of interviewees than men. I may be way off but it seems like at all 5 interviews the woman have been at most 25% of the students who showed up. Why is that? Am I totally off base? I just find that to be surprising. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[DocWinter]

That's the case at our school, and our recent class is about 60/40 male. It's not discrimination, it's simply a reflection of the ratio of applications.

 

[TUVIX]

That's the case at our school, and our recent class is about 60/40 male. It's not discrimination, it's simply a reflection of the ratio of applications.

I wasn't suggesting discrimination. I just found it odd because the ratio of applicants is not that skewed.

 

[Prairiepalmeri]

I wasn't suggesting discrimination. I just found it odd because the ratio of applicants is not that skewed.

It would be funny to find out that ADCOMS had certain interview days for men, and certain days for women.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

I am a fan of the best applicant gets in. Whether it be all women or all men.

 

[trev5150]

"That's the case at our school, and our recent class is about 60/40 male. It's not discrimination, it's simply a reflection of the ratio of applications."

You can't really talk about ratios being skewed unless you acknowledge that the primary hit on a statistic like male/female ratios in an entering medical school class is the fact that the sample size is probably 150 people. 1 or 2 bodies in either direction has a profound effect on the number. Sample the entire entering class nationwide for a significant number.

 

[DocWinter]

"That's the case at our school, and our recent class is about 60/40 male. It's not discrimination, it's simply a reflection of the ratio of applications."

You can't really talk about ratios being skewed unless you acknowledge that the primary hit on a statistic like male/female ratios in an entering medical school class is the fact that the sample size is probably 150 people. 1 or 2 bodies in either direction has a profound effect on the number. Sample the entire entering class nationwide for a significant number.

We get over 3k applicants yearly. The numbers for the past three years, (ratio of applicants) 3k*3= 9k applicants, of which has been 55/45-60/40 in favor of males, and which is a true representation of all three classes I am speaking of. The "profound effect", of which you speak, my dear premed, is not really all that profound. And once you get in to medical school, you'll learn all about stats and ratios and how to interpret them🙂

 

[trev5150]

We get over 3k applicants yearly. The numbers for the past three years, (ratio of applicants) 3k*3= 9k applicants, of which has been 55/45-60/40 in favor of males, and which is a true representation of all three classes I am speaking of. The "profound effect", of which you speak, my dear premed, is not really all that profound. And once you get in to medical school, you'll learn all about stats and ratios and how to interpret them🙂

Congratulations on being the most condescending effing dingus ever with no real experience whatsoever. I'm a 41 year old former test pilot, flight instructor and program manager. You really want to come off the top rope like that? Stats and ratios. What a perfect little * you are.

 

[piii]

I'm sure there are 5 interview days that you didn't attend where the male population was in the minority. Just random chance

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Congratulations on being the most condescending effing dingus ever with no real experience whatsoever. I'm a 41 year old former test pilot, flight instructor and program manager. You really want to come off the top rope like that? Stats and ratios. What a perfect little * you are.

Now I am not here to stir up the pot, but I do watch A LOT of documentaries and if you are a test pilot then I have no idea why you are here trying to go to medical school. Sounds like you are a pretty successful person, why the sudden change of heart?

 

[GUH]

I'm sure there are 5 interview days that you didn't attend where the male population was in the minority. Just random chance

Agreed. Or maybe you just happened to interact with the male interviewees more than the female ones.

Congratulations on being the most condescending effing dingus ever with no real experience whatsoever. I'm a 41 year old former test pilot, flight instructor and program manager. You really want to come off the top rope like that? Stats and ratios. What a perfect little * you are.

Thought for a second that I had accidentally wandered into pre-allo. I couldn't help but be reminded of this.

 

[Dr. Death]

I've been to 3 interviews and it has been 9-3 6-1 and 10-2 in favor of males to females.

 

[RurouniKarly]

All of my interviews so far have been with groups that were about 1/3 female to 2/3 male. For one of them I was the only woman in attendance.

 

[DocWinter]

Thought for a second that I had accidentally wandered into pre-allo. I couldn't help but be reminded of this.

Lol that's great. This guy is trying to pull off a khaki-wearing, clean-shaven version of that jungle Rambo. Peoples love to be all tough on the interwebs.

 

[Goro]

About a decade ago, women were applying to (and getting into) med schools in numbers so large that if the trend kept going, by 2040 a large majority of the clinician workforce in the US would have been female.

But about five years ago that changed and males are making up more of the applicants. Based upon my limited n this cycle, I'm seeing 60% males/40% females.

Looking at the applicant data from AACOMAS here:

https://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2014_Mat.pdf?sfvrsn=12

You can see that the split between genders is close to 50/50 at 54/46 (male/female).

Also, by looking at each school's class profiles you can see that schools aim for 50/50 gender enrollment, as they should, and most are pretty close to that.

Here is my question: I have been on 5 interviews so far and it seems like women are making up a much much smaller percentage of interviewees than men. I may be way off but it seems like at all 5 interviews the woman have been at most 25% of the students who showed up. Why is that? Am I totally off base? I just find that to be surprising. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[TUVIX]

About a decade ago, women were applying to (and getting into) med schools in numbers so large that if the trend kept going, by 2040 a large majority of the clinician workforce in the US would have been female.

But about five years ago that changed and males are making up more of the applicants. Based upon my limited n this cycle, I'm seeing 60% males/40% females.

Interesting thanks for the insight @Goro

 

[Torilynn92]

@TUVIX I've experienced the same! I've been to one interview where I was the only woman present. It's a little intimidating to be the only person in a skirt! I know personally as an undergrad I experienced a lot of pressure from advisors discouraging me from applying to medical school. Whenever I did poorly on a class or a test, the advisor would ask me "Why don't you consider nursing? Have you considered nursing? Are you sure?". I am absolutely certain men don't get asked that question, so I assume their pre-med attrition rate must be lower. Any opinions from men/women who have experienced the same?

 

[premed_mommy]

All the interviews I have been to had SIGNIFICANTLY more males than females. I also have been encouraged into nursing-so much so that my junior year I took several nursing classes and legitimately considered switching. Glad I didn't. Nothing (AT ALL) against nurses, but after working in an ER for a year and a half, there is no way I could do what they do!!

 

[oOKawaiiOo]

Look at VCOM-CXC........Pretty women galore.........

I wouldn't be able to focus with pretty women left and right.

 

[Endorphins98]

I interviewed at MUCOM yesterday and I think there was an almost even split which was refreshing!

 

[premed_mommy]

At my interview at MUCOM there were 23 men and 5 women.

 

[Higherprimate]

The amount of woman at an interview is irrelevant, what is relevant is the amount of woman accepted. Less woman apply than men, therefore less woman at each interview day and in the end most schools end up with close to 50/50 women to men.