General advice for Dual Degree after matriculating in MD ( or specifically at University of Maryland

[snowys435]

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Hi,

I was trying to figure out how enrolling on dual degrees works after you have matriculated to medical school. I had been accepted to the University of Maryland MD program back in october. I have been doing a lot of soul searching since then I think I may want to pursue a dual degree ( mph/ mba/ or a phd in epidemiology) I know that covers a lot of things but I'm trying to figure out my specific interests. how does it work to enroll in a dual degree program once you have been accepted somewhere? Would I have to separately apply to those? Has anyone had experience with this at University of Maryland or elsewhere?

Thanks

 

[Microglia]

Hi,

I was trying to figure out how enrolling on dual degrees works after you have matriculated to medical school. I had been accepted to the University of Maryland MD program back in october. I have been doing a lot of soul searching since then I think I may want to pursue a dual degree ( mph/ mba/ or a phd in epidemiology) I know that covers a lot of things but I'm trying to figure out my specific interests. how does it work to enroll in a dual degree program once you have been accepted somewhere? Would I have to separately apply to those? Has anyone had experience with this at University of Maryland or elsewhere?

Thanks

You should email the admissions staff and ask them. I'm sure they can answer this question far better than us. I believe UMD's MSTP is open to internal applications, but I can't completely remember from my brief visit. If you want an MD/PhD you should apply to join the MSTP internally (again, ask admissions haha) and if they are open to it then you apply during M1, and find out if accepted towards late M1. Then, M2 you would join the MSTP.

If you want an MPH, etc, then you can probably ask admissions what scholarships are available for it and when most students do it. They'll know.

 

[Lya]

I don't know about MBA and PhD, but for MPH, you should be allowed to apply separately once you matriculate.

 

[primordialfruit]

You should email the admissions staff and ask them. I'm sure they can answer this question far better than us. I believe UMD's MSTP is open to internal applications, but I can't completely remember from my brief visit. If you want an MD/PhD you should apply to join the MSTP internally (again, ask admissions haha) and if they are open to it then you apply during M1, and find out if accepted towards late M1. Then, M2 you would join the MSTP.

If you want an MPH, etc, then you can probably ask admissions what scholarships are available for it and when most students do it. They'll know.

I asked Dean Foxwell on interview day and he said that it's quite flexible to tack on an additional masters (I was asking about MPH or MPP specifically). I think MD/PHD is a bit different but doable.

 

[snowys435]

I asked Dean Foxwell on interview day and he said that it's quite flexible to tack on an additional masters (I was asking about MPH or MPP specifically). I think MD/PHD is a bit different but doable.

did he happen to say anything about MBA?

 

[Lya]

did he happen to say anything about MBA?

There is a great thread about MBA where Law2Doc commented extensively. Basically, if I remember correctly about what he said, MBA degree is not worthwhile unless it is top 5-10 (is University of Maryland one of them?), and MBA is meant to improve your existing management knowledge, rather than teaching you from the scratch. So in conclusion, MBA-MD dual degree is not usually about what typical pre-meds think it is.

If you take MBA without actual connections to industries, it is not as effective as when you take MBA later on when you actually need it with your industrial involvements.

Just google Law2Doc and MBA in SDN, and hopefully you will have a better idea about the MBA-MD dual degree.


Edit: I just want to give you a better idea about a MD-MBA track, rather than necessarily discouraging you from pursuing it.

 

[scarletgirl777]

Hi,

I was trying to figure out how enrolling on dual degrees works after you have matriculated to medical school. I had been accepted to the University of Maryland MD program back in october. I have been doing a lot of soul searching since then I think I may want to pursue a dual degree ( mph/ mba/ or a phd in epidemiology) I know that covers a lot of things but I'm trying to figure out my specific interests. how does it work to enroll in a dual degree program once you have been accepted somewhere? Would I have to separately apply to those? Has anyone had experience with this at University of Maryland or elsewhere?

Thanks

a lot of MPH programs will let current med students complete the MPH in one year even if students are coming from a different med school. I know for a fact that Hopkins will do that, which of course would be just down the street from you and is one of the best, if not the best, public health programs. Surprisingly, a lot of public health programs/schools from otherwise great institutions are not accredited or very lackluster.

 

[Microglia]

There is a great thread about MBA where Law2Doc commented extensively. Basically, if I remember correctly about what he said, MBA degree is not worthwhile unless it is top 5-10 (is University of Maryland one of them?), and MBA is meant to improve your existing management knowledge, rather than teaching you from the scratch. So in conclusion, MBA-MD dual degree is not usually about what typical pre-meds think it is.

If you take MBA without actual connections to industries, it is not as effective as when you take MBA later on when you actually need it with your industrial involvements.

Just google Law2Doc and MBA in SDN, and hopefully you will have a better idea about the MBA-MD dual degree.


Edit: I just want to give you a better idea about a MD-MBA track, rather than necessarily discouraging you from pursuing it.

UMD's MBA program is through the Smith School of Business at the undergrad campus at college park, and not the baltimore campus where the med school is. I'm not sure how much collaboration there is between them or how it works, so I think that's a great question to ask.

It's ranked 37 as a business graduate school overall.

It's true that the MBA doesn't mean quite as much if it's not from a top 20, similar to law schools. However, to say it's not worth it outside of the top 5-10 is completely wrong. Having connections certainly does help the career path and it can be argued without them it's not really worth it, but depending on what you are angling towards, if you have an MD and an MBA it can set you up well for an administrative position. In this case, the MD will open doors and the MBA will be a nice perk to set you up for administrative type positions or teach you some skills for running your own practice.

 

[snowys435]

UMD's MBA program is through the Smith School of Business at the undergrad campus at college park, and not the baltimore campus where the med school is. I'm not sure how much collaboration there is between them or how it works, so I think that's a great question to ask.

It's ranked 37 as a business graduate school overall.

It's true that the MBA doesn't mean quite as much if it's not from a top 20, similar to law schools. However, to say it's not worth it outside of the top 5-10 is completely wrong. Having connections certainly does help the career path and it can be argued without them it's not really worth it, but depending on what you are angling towards, if you have an MD and an MBA it can set you up well for an administrative position. In this case, the MD will open doors and the MBA will be a nice perk to set you up for administrative type positions or teach you some skills for running your own practice.

thanks! that's really helpful. I will def look into it.