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what does each letter stand for in the "VITAMIN D" mnemonic that you're supposed to go through when coming up with a differential?
what does each letter stand for in the "VITAMIN D" mnemonic that you're supposed to go through when coming up with a differential?
jdh71 said:Seriously who makes a differential before knowing all of the information? "Abdominal pain . . . GO!"
what does each letter stand for in the "VITAMIN D" mnemonic that you're supposed to go through when coming up with a differential?
True, jdh71...but remember, knowing what to look for will dictate what you find on the physical exam. Further, having a differential in mind during the history can help focus your questions (and likewise minimize time spent going through the agonizing ROS).
jdh71 said:Putting together a differential before you have all your information is ******ed, and nothing more than useless mental masturbation.
jdh71 said:If you know how to do a thorough physical exam, you won't miss anything - there is nothing about the differential for "abdominal pain" before knowing anything else that will make me do a different exam.
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As an aside I've always hated the medicine insists on these silly differentials at the beginning. Seriously who makes a differential before knowing all of the information? "Abdominal pain . . . GO!" It's effing asinine, my history and exam are done before I ever think of anything resembling a "differential".
True, jdh71...but remember, knowing what to look for will dictate what you find on the physical exam. Further, having a differential in mind during the history can help focus your questions (and likewise minimize time spent going through the agonizing ROS).
Um wut? I don't understand that at all. You let you patient talk, and that narrows the history. If you know how to do a thorough physical exam, you won't miss anything - there is nothing about the differential for "abdominal pain" before knowing anything else that will make me do a different exam. Putting together a differential before you have all your information is ******ed, and nothing more than useless mental masturbation. Maybe you guys have that kind of time at Mayo - a selling point for those look for "kick back"?
I know, I know!!!!1! Let's make a list of EVERYTHING that can cause abdominal pain (yeah!) - don't forget scorpion sting!!
Ok . . . you do that - in the meantime I'll be admitting the patient with a reasonable differential AFTER I've gotten a history and done an exam (also will probably have looked at the same garbage the ED always orders on EVERYONE).
Sometimes a patient may have a history very compatible with pancreatitis, and physical examination may also be consistent with this, and in some areas of the country you would have to ask about scorpion bites so a specific CC can lead to some very specific questions.
Sometimes a patient may have a history very compatible with pancreatitis, and physical examination may also be consistent with this, and in some areas of the country you would have to ask about scorpion bites so a specific CC can lead to some very specific questions.