So the other day i was talking with a sports medicine rehab specialist. And he said that women should not try and be ortho surgeons or sports medicine specialists, bc it is a "man's world" ....would love to hear people's thoughts on this
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i dont want to be an ass... but, i dont think every complaint should be posted on this form. otherwise the form is full of people writing stuff like, 'my cousin said i won't get in'
i mean, he's obviously wrong - and you know that's what everyone is going to say. so, if you want a reaction from people telling you that, you'll get it... but, maybe what you really need is a hug
i mean, he's obviously wrong - and you know that's what everyone is going to say. so, if you want a reaction from people telling you that, you'll get it... but, maybe what you really need is a hug
I want to be a gynecologist.
but my mom said she don't want a son that is a gynecologist, that people would think something else.
How wrong is that?
but my mom said she don't want a son that is a gynecologist, that people would think something else.
How wrong is that?
i get the same thing..
guys as ob/gyn have been more frowned upon for several reasons
there's a thread about this in the ob/gyn forum
Once I actually had an extended conversation at a party with graduate students and md/phd students. One of the md/phd's was doing his OB/GYN rotation, and was talking about his experience. All the females present started talking about how they prefer male OB/GYN's to females. They said that the men took the attitude of "this won't be fun, so I'll try to make this as painless as possible" during pelvic exams, while the women took of position of "yeah, we've all been through this, so just deal." Just a random comment.
As for orthopedics, I've heard it is a male dominated field too. In fact, I've heard that the only area you'll see lots of male nurses and PA's is in orthopedics. I have noticed this though about orthopedics: it involves a decent amount of physical strength. The ortho's I've seen (not many) seem to exert a lot more physical effort than other surgeons. I'm not sure if this might be a reason women don't enter the field or if there are other reasons.
This topic has been beaten to death in other threads, but I wanted to throw up my $.02.
Have a nice weekend.
As for orthopedics, I've heard it is a male dominated field too. In fact, I've heard that the only area you'll see lots of male nurses and PA's is in orthopedics. I have noticed this though about orthopedics: it involves a decent amount of physical strength. The ortho's I've seen (not many) seem to exert a lot more physical effort than other surgeons. I'm not sure if this might be a reason women don't enter the field or if there are other reasons.
This topic has been beaten to death in other threads, but I wanted to throw up my $.02.
Have a nice weekend.
wow, i'm surprised women were saying they'd rather go to a male. i would DEFINITELY prefer a female gynecologist. i feel like females might be a little gentler/more sensitive b/c they know what it feels like.
I've had the male v female gyno conversation with my wife and she firmly prefers older men.. like 60+.
She says it's because they're less threatening to her, but I say it's because their hands are shaky at that age.
She says it's because they're less threatening to her, but I say it's because their hands are shaky at that age.
Originally posted by the*mess
I've had the male v female gyno conversation with my wife and she firmly prefers older men.. like 60+.
She says it's because they're less threatening to her, but I say it's because their hands are shaky at that age.
Nice choice of the word "firmly" in the same sentence as 60+ older men! (oxymoron)quote from poloace
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------i dont want to be an ass... but, i dont think every complaint should be posted on this form. otherwise the form is full of people writing stuff like, 'my cousin said i won't get in'
i mean, he's obviously wrong - and you know that's what everyone is going to say. so, if you want a reaction from people telling you that, you'll get it... but, maybe what you really need is a hug
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Poloace,
I see where you are coming from, I understand your point, but I don't agree with it. You see, one person's "complaint" is another person's "issue". Maybe Water4Girl doesn't know he is obviously wrong, or maybe she thinks he is but she is looking for someone who works in sports med rehab who can give her credible info on the subject. Or maybe your right, maybe she does just want a sympathetic reaction... but if so, what's the problem? Sometimes we all need a hug. Believe me, I sure do once in a while.
Part of the point of this board is that we create a free and non-judgemental forum where everyone feels they can go to ask a question, ask advice, or just ask for a big hug.
Water4Girl, while some ortho surgeons are sports medicine specialists, not all are. In truth, many of the sports medicine specialists I have met are men, but I do not believe it is a "boy's club"; I don't think any specialty is anyway. Besides, of the ortho surgeons I have met that don't do a sub-specialty in sports medicine / rehabilitation, most of them have been WOMEN... u go girl!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------i dont want to be an ass... but, i dont think every complaint should be posted on this form. otherwise the form is full of people writing stuff like, 'my cousin said i won't get in'
i mean, he's obviously wrong - and you know that's what everyone is going to say. so, if you want a reaction from people telling you that, you'll get it... but, maybe what you really need is a hug
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Poloace,
I see where you are coming from, I understand your point, but I don't agree with it. You see, one person's "complaint" is another person's "issue". Maybe Water4Girl doesn't know he is obviously wrong, or maybe she thinks he is but she is looking for someone who works in sports med rehab who can give her credible info on the subject. Or maybe your right, maybe she does just want a sympathetic reaction... but if so, what's the problem? Sometimes we all need a hug. Believe me, I sure do once in a while.
Part of the point of this board is that we create a free and non-judgemental forum where everyone feels they can go to ask a question, ask advice, or just ask for a big hug.
Water4Girl, while some ortho surgeons are sports medicine specialists, not all are. In truth, many of the sports medicine specialists I have met are men, but I do not believe it is a "boy's club"; I don't think any specialty is anyway. Besides, of the ortho surgeons I have met that don't do a sub-specialty in sports medicine / rehabilitation, most of them have been WOMEN... u go girl!
I rotate in a charity hospital where the university ortho residents get to operate pretty independently. In talking to the seasoned OR nurse there, who has seen (and let's face it - trained) probably hundreds of residents over the past 20 years, she notes with honesty that the smaller female ortho residents are notably less capable in doing the large joint procedures. The reason is that you have to have the strength to do strenuous moves GENTLY and with PRECISION. If you have to throw your whole body into a manipulation to accomplish it, you aren't able to exercise the same level of control as someone who can isolate the movement into their forearms/hands.
The more robust females seem to have no problem. Often the smaller gals are more interested in doing hand surgery, as it turns out anyway.
My observations....
water4girl,
I am also female and want to go into ortho. It is probably one of the last male strongholds (slowly being broken) and you do need some strength and boy skills. It would probably help if you are used to being surrounded by men, can make crude jokes, know how to handle advances, and are good at being one of the guys while still pulling off being cute. I love working in male environments so I'm looking forward to it. Just make sure you get to the gym regularly!
Good luck!
Does anyone else think you are crazy for wanting to go into a competitive residency? I keep meeting all these med students on interviews who get into med school to just survive which I just don't get. I was very pleased at baylor today to meet other focused applicants and students.
I am also female and want to go into ortho. It is probably one of the last male strongholds (slowly being broken) and you do need some strength and boy skills. It would probably help if you are used to being surrounded by men, can make crude jokes, know how to handle advances, and are good at being one of the guys while still pulling off being cute. I love working in male environments so I'm looking forward to it. Just make sure you get to the gym regularly!
Good luck!
Does anyone else think you are crazy for wanting to go into a competitive residency? I keep meeting all these med students on interviews who get into med school to just survive which I just don't get. I was very pleased at baylor today to meet other focused applicants and students.
girls, read what seaworth just had to say....then read it again.....those are very wise words. us guys love a girl who isnt afraid to give the crap right back. i mean, what the hell, you run the household, so why possibly couldnt u run the OR?
My Mom is a nurse and she will not go to a female GYN. She agrees that most of them are bitches and catty as well. She has about a thousand stories of insensitive stuff that female OB-GYN's have said about their patients. Just goes to prove that you should be careful what you say. She also feels that some are less compassionate. I guess it's kinda that "we all go through this, deal with it" attitude talked about in another post. Funny thing is that she tells a story about one OB that never prescribed appropriate pain medicine (she would give Tylenol after a hysterectomy etc., delay calling anesthesia for epidurals until they were almost ready to deliver to keep from slowing down the labor because she wasn't going to be there all night), who came in to deliver her first child and was screaming for drugs with her first few contractions. They made her wait a good long time so as to not slow down her labor. Supposed she was much more compassionate afterwards.
I forgot to add my feelings on GYN. I had always gone to a female until this year when I found one in my new city. The female I was referred to was full so I went with one of her male partners. I will never go back to a female again. It was much more realistic to have some guy with his arm inside me trying to be nonchalant and talk about the weather and randomly interjecting how normal my ovaries were. It just isn't normal with a woman trying to do the same thing while handling my boobs. (sorry to ruin the fantasy guys )
)thats what ive heard..Originally posted by seaworthc
I forgot to add my feelings on GYN. I had always gone to a female until this year when I found one in my new city. The female I was referred to was full so I went with one of her male partners. I will never go back to a female again. It was much more realistic to have some guy with his arm inside me trying to be nonchalant and talk about the weather and randomly interjecting how normal my ovaries were. It just isn't normal with a woman trying to do the same thing while handling my boobs. (sorry to ruin the fantasy guys
maybe there is a future for the male gyn
just my $.02
i had a "female problem" and went to a local male ob/gyn. it was a horrible experience. he mentioned cancer, surgery, and then left....i was in tears by the time i reached my car.
i calmed down and decided to make the drive to my female ob/gyn in my hometown. the experience was the complete opposite. she approached the problem with a "team" attitude and took extra time to answer my questions. not to mention a less drastic approach than surgery. i left feeling that even if it was a bad diagnosis, then i at least had her on my team.
so i like my female ob/gyn. even though she calls me kido all the time
but another point is that he is in a rural setting and she is in the city. also, she is MD and he is DO...so there are lots of variables and you just can't stereotype. it's just personal prefrence...
that is all,
streetdoc
i had a "female problem" and went to a local male ob/gyn. it was a horrible experience. he mentioned cancer, surgery, and then left....i was in tears by the time i reached my car.
i calmed down and decided to make the drive to my female ob/gyn in my hometown. the experience was the complete opposite. she approached the problem with a "team" attitude and took extra time to answer my questions. not to mention a less drastic approach than surgery. i left feeling that even if it was a bad diagnosis, then i at least had her on my team.
so i like my female ob/gyn. even though she calls me kido all the time
but another point is that he is in a rural setting and she is in the city. also, she is MD and he is DO...so there are lots of variables and you just can't stereotype. it's just personal prefrence...
that is all,
streetdoc