Getting into MSUCOM

[Microbiology_zombie94]

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I am new here and in the future I want to get into MSU College of Osteopathic Medicine; however I need a Bachelors degree with the right classes. I am planning to earn a BS in Alternative Medicine online through Everglades University. I did check and it is regionally accredited through the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. I admit I did go to a college but did not earn any credits because the educational quality was poor and I did not get any help I needed. I do qualify for disability services because I have autism, paranoid schizophrenia and I was recently diagnosed with depression. Has anyone had any good experiences with Everglades University? If anyone can help then thank you.

 

[DoctorSynthesis]

I am new here and in the future I want to get into MSU College of Osteopathic Medicine; however I need a Bachelors degree with the right classes. I am planning to earn a BS in Alternative Medicine online through Everglades University. I did check and it is regionally accredited through the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. I admit I did go to a college but did not earn any credits because the educational quality was poor and I did not get any help I needed. I do qualify for disability services because I have autism, paranoid schizophrenia and I was recently diagnosed with depression. Has anyone had any good experiences with Everglades University? If anyone can help then thank you.

First of all are you from Michigan?

Second are all are your medical concerns (Depression, schizophrenia) under control.

Thirdly you will need:

Physcology
Sociology
Chemistry
Physics
Biology
Biochemistry
Organic chemistry
English
Math class
and the MCAT examination.

A BS in alternative medicine isn't a path to medical school. You should be a biology major (or something like physch, biochem, chem, physics). I have never heard of everglades university but you can't go to an online school. You must go to a school that if fully accredited and can offer you the necessary classes/labs that you need.


Everglades doesn't offer all the courses you need I just checked forget that school.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

First of all are you from Michigan?

Second of all are your medical concerns (Depression, schizophrenia) under control.

Thirdly you will need:

Physcology
Sociology
Chemistry
Physics
Biology
Biochemistry
Organic chemistry
English
Math class
and the MCAT examination.

A BS in alternative medicine isn't a path to medical school. You should be a biology major (or something like physch, biochem, chem, physics). I have never heard of everglades university but you can't go to an online school. You must go to a school that if fully accredited and can offer you the necessary classes/labs that you need.

Exactly what I wanted to say. Online degrees are not going to work and your medical issues MUST be in check.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

Exactly what I wanted to say. Online degrees are not going to work and your medical issues MUST be in check.

Well, I am on meds for those problems. Chances are I will probably just do the general education stuff so I can do an undergrad degree at MSU. To answer your questions, yes I am a Michigan resident. The reason I plan on starting online is because my options are limited; I cannot afford a dorm at Mott Community College (The nearest community college which is too far) and the nearest college is Baker College which I was at but flunked out of because of how bad it is plus none of their credits transfer.

 

[adrian710]

Not a great start since you will have to show flunking out transcript to schools. This can be overcome by upward trend in pre-reqs. Do pre-reqs at CC to start. Second, taken upper level science classes (a years worth) to show schools you can compete in med school. Third, take MCAT. Fourth, while you do these other three steps, get in some volunteering, shadowing, possible research, and other EC's under your belt. Don't forget to get LoR's.

This is going to require loads of work. You are looking at 3 years before applying. All is possible.

Make sure your sGPA and cGPA is above 3.0 and score above 500 to stand a chance at any DO school. Stats will have to be higher for MSUCOM.

Good lucky my friend.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

Not a great start since you will have to show flunking out transcript to schools. This can be overcome by upward trend in pre-reqs. Do pre-reqs at CC to start. Second, taken upper level science classes (a years worth) to show schools you can compete in med school. Third, take MCAT. Fourth, while you do these other three steps, get in some volunteering, shadowing, possible research, and other EC's under your belt. Don't forget to get LoR's.

This is going to require loads of work. You are looking at 3 years before applying. All is possible.

Make sure your sGPA and cGPA is above 3.0 and score above 500 to stand a chance at any DO school. Stats will have to be higher for MSUCOM.

Good lucky my friend.

On Monday, I am going to call MSU to see if online credits will be accepted to their undergrad programs, I am aware of the fact that med schools want physical lab experience. Do not think I am trying to be stupid because I am not; like I said I have limited options. I know schools like MSU may accept online credits if they are from a reputable institution that has regional accreditation. If they do then I will stick with EU but if not I have a few other options I am thinking off.

 

[adrian710]

On Monday, I am going to call MSU to see if online credits will be accepted to their undergrad programs, I am aware of the fact that med schools want physical lab experience. Do not think I am trying to be stupid because I am not; like I said I have limited options. I know schools like MSU may accept online credits if they are from a reputable institution that has regional accreditation. If they do then I will stick with EU but if not I have a few other options I am thinking off.

UNE online classes may be a better bet

 

[OrdinaryDO]

On Monday, I am going to call MSU to see if online credits will be accepted to their undergrad programs, I am aware of the fact that med schools want physical lab experience. Do not think I am trying to be stupid because I am not; like I said I have limited options. I know schools like MSU may accept online credits if they are from a reputable institution that has regional accreditation. If they do then I will stick with EU but if not I have a few other options I am thinking off.

I don't see there ever being a college that will accept an all online bachelors degree. But, I could be wrong. I just don't see it happening. Alternative medicine, though, may I ask why? Alternative medicine practitioners and Medical Doctors (both MD and DO) usually don't go hand in hand.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

I don't see there ever being a college that will accept an all online bachelors degree. But, I could be wrong. I just don't see it happening. Alternative medicine, though, may I ask why? Alternative medicine practitioners and Medical Doctors (both MD and DO) usually don't go hand in hand.

Honestly, I like the idea of integrated healthcare. I know many don't, because I live in Michigan you have to be an MD or DO to practice due to strict laws about integrated healthcare. Say someone went to Bastyr University and got an ND degree as well as passing the NPLEX they would have an extremely limited practice; Naturopathic medicine is unregulated in my state. I would want the training from an respected medical college so patients have the option of going with western medicine or Naturopathic.

 

[FBurnaby]

patients will have the option of going with medicine or nonsense*

 

[DrPatriot]

Hey I was accepted to MSU this cycle. I recommend you call or schedule a meeting with MSUCOM admissions and ask what they will accept. They are extremely helpful and kind about helping applicants put together the best chance for success. I highly doubt taking online classes from Everglades University is going to cut it. The accepted average for the class of 2020 so far is a 3.6 and 29 MCAT just for reference. You definitely want to make sure you get your medical issues cleared up before you even consider the pre-med/med school route.

Are you only planning on applying to MSU or are you going to apply to several schools and are just hoping to end up at MSU?

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Honestly, I like the idea of integrated healthcare. I know many don't, because I live in Michigan you have to be an MD or DO to practice due to strict laws about integrated healthcare. Say someone went to Bastyr University and got an ND degree as well as passing the NPLEX they would have an extremely limited practice; Naturopathic medicine is unregulated in my state. I would want the training from an respected medical college so patients have the option of going with western medicine or Naturopathic.

I don't agree with ND degrees, there is a good post from a person who had an ND degree and she thought it was going to so helpful and amazing until she started practicing, that's when she realized that her colleagues were giving illegal and misguided medical advice that nearly killed patients at times.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

Hey I was accepted to MSU this cycle. I recommend you call or schedule a meeting with MSUCOM admissions and ask what they will accept. They are extremely helpful and kind about helping applicants put together the best chance for success. I highly doubt taking online classes from Everglades University is going to cut it. The accepted average for the class of 2020 so far is a 3.6 and 29 MCAT just for reference. You definitely want to make sure you get your medical issues cleared up before you even consider the pre-med/med school route.

Are you only planning on applying to MSU or are you going to apply to several schools and are just hoping to end up at MSU?

I do not have a bachelors degree yet, that is what I am mentioning. Before I actually sign up with EU I am going to make sure their credits transfer to another undergrad program. I don't want to sink money just to find out they do not transfer.

 

[DrPatriot]

I do not have a bachelors degree yet, that is what I am mentioning. Before I actually sign up with EU I am going to make sure their credits transfer to another undergrad program. I don't want to sink money just to find out they do not transfer.

Why not just sign up for online pre-req classes at a school in the area (UofM-Dearborn, Wayne State, UDM, etc.) and then not have to worry about having the credits transfer because you could just finish up your degree at a 4 year school? Seems like that is a much better solution. You can take your basic pre-reqs online then enroll and go to classes for your sciences and labs.

I have to believe a bio degree from the schools I mentioned above (which have all had students accepted to MSUCOM) would all be looked on higher to MSUCOM admissions than a BS in Alternative medicine from Everglades University.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

Why not just sign up for online pre-req classes at a school in the area (UofM-Dearborn, Wayne State, UDM, etc.) and then not have to worry about having the credits transfer because you could just finish up your degree at a 4 year school? Seems like that is a much better solution. You can take your basic pre-reqs online then enroll and go to classes for your sciences and labs.

I have to believe a bio degree from the schools I mentioned above (which have all had students accepted to MSUCOM) would all be looked on higher to MSUCOM admissions than a BS in Alternative medicine from Everglades University.

Now there is one I am thinking of, it is called Excelsior College which offers a degree in Natural Science with a concentration in Biology and it is online. It would help with my limited options and it has the pre-reqs I would need.

 

[FBurnaby]

I would start at a community college and avoid online classes, especially pseudoscience courses that wouldn't transfer. If you need academic assistance an online degree seems like it would offer the least support, not to mention they're much more expensive than CC's.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

I am not trying to be difficult but the nearest CC is too far and I cannot afford a dorm. However I will avoid EU, I do not want to sink money into a program where credits will not transfer; you guys are right about that. I am glad to have joined the SDN. Thanks for the input.

 

[Microbiology_zombie94]

Okay then but I have my reasons, it is not like I can afford to refill the gas tank over and over. Try having a limited income.

 

[adrian710]

Okay then but I have my reasons, it is not like I can afford to refill the gas tank over and over. Try having a limited income.

Don't get defensive. You posted here for our opinions brotha. Also for someone with limited income... I bet those online classes are more expensive than CC credits.

 

[FBurnaby]

Aren't most online schools more expensive than state schools, let alone cc? You could buy a car with the money saved by going to a cc.

 

[TheaterOfTheme]

Honestly, I like the idea of integrated healthcare. I know many don't, because I live in Michigan you have to be an MD or DO to practice due to strict laws about integrated healthcare. Say someone went to Bastyr University and got an ND degree as well as passing the NPLEX they would have an extremely limited practice; Naturopathic medicine is unregulated in my state. I would want the training from an respected medical college so patients have the option of going with western medicine or Naturopathic.

I know that type of scenario sounds ideal--being able to tether that line of western and traditional non-scientific medicine, but it is not realistic. All medical schools will question that naturpathic degree to some level. And also, it will not help you get in. Pre-med is a tough route that bottlenecks at the MCAT. You need challenging courses to prepare you for that examination (these have all been listed above). I guess what I'm saying is, you have to take a practical approach to this. It is requisite that you actually love science or else you will hate every step. If you want to be a Naturopath, there are plenty of options. Don't ask for advice on here though, as we are all primarily bent towards scientific medicine and most people will belittle naturopathy (I myself am skeptical, but thats a different story).

Good luck, and keep looking in to all of your options while realistically looking at the outcomes.

 

[DrMikeP]

Okay then but I have my reasons, it is not like I can afford to refill the gas tank over and over. Try having a limited income.

A limited income can make it difficult, but private colleges/universities can make it worse because they are almost always significantly more expensive. Look at state colleges/universities that offer a significant number of courses online and provide you instate tuition. Many private universities in FL have been under investigation for being diploma mills so use caution.

If you really want to get into med school avoid the naturopathic stuff and pursue a degree in bio or psychology or such and find a way to go to schools that offer real labs, as if you can't make that for undergrad work then med school is like 100X more difficult. The key to getting into med school is learning and in the process checking all of the boxes with the best possible grades/scores/letters from the best sources possible. Getting into med school is tough itself for the healthy early 20 something who has everything in life going for him or her and that is your competition, so don't handicap yourself with more things to explain than you already have. Sometimes people find it better to get life in order in other areas before going back and tackling the most difficult of occupations/degrees. You are better off waiting/planning to do it right the first time than drive in circles until you run out of gas.

Best of Luck!

 

[adrian710]

A limited income can make it difficult, but private colleges/universities can make it worse because they are almost always significantly more expensive. Look at state colleges/universities that offer a significant number of courses online and provide you instate tuition. Many private universities in FL have been under investigation for being diploma mills so use caution.

If you really want to get into med school avoid the naturopathic stuff and pursue a degree in bio or psychology or such and find a way to go to schools that offer real labs, as if you can't make that for undergrad work then med school is like 100X more difficult. The key to getting into med school is learning and in the process checking all of the boxes with the best possible grades/scores/letters from the best sources possible. Getting into med school is tough itself for the healthy early 20 something who has everything in life going for him or her and that is your competition, so don't handicap yourself with more things to explain than you already have. Sometimes people find it better to get life in order in other areas before going back and tackling the most difficult of occupations/degrees. You are better off waiting/planning to do it right the first time than drive in circles until you run out of gas.

Best of Luck!

I like the gas metaphor. Bravo.

 

[beestrng]

wcccd is cheap and has payment plans from what i remember with multi branches that maybe close to you.