Getting killed in Bio 1 class

[ghostridermedic]

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So im a non-trad student, taking my pre-med classes this summer and the next 2 semesters.

Chem has been easy so far, 1st test is coming up but other then memorizing some formulas and conversions it seems easy.

Bio was easy until I took the 1st test. Got done ahead of everyone else and ended up failing!

almost 60% failed the test, so I didnt feel that bad.... but still.

So If i end up with a C i guess ill stay and not drop, but man i better get A's in the other sciences...

Any suggestions for this class? Its a ton of information and apparently my teacher is making sure we learn all the Orgo chem 1&2 stuff now instead of in... shocking... Orgo 1&2.

ugh

 

[mspeedwagon]

Not sure where you are taking bio I, but there is NO way 60% of the class should be failing. I would strongly consider talking to the prof to ask how he curves. I'd also look into withdrawing and taking the course elsewhere (a C is going to really hut your GPA). I got one C in 2002 and my GPA has taken a bad hit from it.

Also, there should be no orgo in Bio I!

 

[Bernoull]

So im a non-trad student, taking my pre-med classes this summer and the next 2 semesters.

Chem has been easy so far, 1st test is coming up but other then memorizing some formulas and conversions it seems easy.

Bio was easy until I took the 1st test. Got done ahead of everyone else and ended up failing!

almost 60% failed the test, so I didnt feel that bad.... but still.

So If i end up with a C i guess ill stay and not drop, but man i better get A's in the other sciences...

Any suggestions for this class? Its a ton of information and apparently my teacher is making sure we learn all the Orgo chem 1&2 stuff now instead of in... shocking... Orgo 1&2.

ugh

What Orgo stuff are u learning in Bio? Is this Gen Bio or Biological Chemistry?

Either way, figure out why u failed, see the teacher, get tutoring, do whatever it takes to pass A/B and that outcome is infinitely better than explaining an F in ur application essays... trust me!

GL

 

[ghostridermedic]

Not sure where you are taking bio I, but there is NO way 60% of the class should be failing. I would strongly consider talking to the prof to ask how he curves. I'd also look into withdrawing and taking the course elsewhere (a C is going to really hut your GPA). I got one C in 2002 and my GPA has taken a bad hit from it.

Also, there should be no orgo in Bio I!

The grades were like 5 A's, 5 B's, 5 C's , rest failed.

Crazy drop off. We are doing a bunch of organic chem stuff ( according to friends / GF, i havent taken it yet ).

Apparently the teacher is a bio chemist... wonderful.

I could withdraw but i was going to see if I can A'ce the 2nd test...

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

The grades were like 5 A's, 5 B's, 5 C's , rest failed.

Crazy drop off. We are doing a bunch of organic chem stuff ( according to friends / GF, i havent taken it yet ).

Apparently the teacher is a bio chemist... wonderful.

I could withdraw but i was going to see if I can A'ce the 2nd test...

Hmm, 15 passing grades out of what?
Honestly in my class biology class the break down was 5 A's, 3-6 B's, probably 8-10 C's and the rest D's or F's. I don't think its abnormal, but biology 1 for most people is a general education class which is why a lot of people end up failing. In my class all the A's and B's were captured by either biology students or pre-health students.

 

[KTownGT]

Not sure where you are taking bio I, but there is NO way 60% of the class should be failing. I would strongly consider talking to the prof to ask how he curves. I'd also look into withdrawing and taking the course elsewhere (a C is going to really hut your GPA). I got one C in 2002 and my GPA has taken a bad hit from it.

Also, there should be no orgo in Bio I!

At Texas Tech, Bio I and II are the pre-med weed out classes.

30-40% out of ~600 students drop, and about 40% of the class who didn't drop fail miserably.

EDIT: Oh yea, the tests are open note tests. The prof also puts old tests and essay tests online.

 

[ghostridermedic]

Hmm, 15 passing grades out of what?

42

Teachers quote was " you all need to be studying more "

i all most fell out of my chair haha

 

[MexicanDr]

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42

Teachers quote was " you all need to be studying more "

i all most fell out of my chair haha

Do you think you are studying enough? or the right way? Bio is all about memorization and understanding a few basic concepts, but other than that is basic memorization stuff.

Why dont you get together with those people who got As and Bs and see what they are doing different than you? Maybe be part of their study group?

And about the Ochem in Bio 1...I dont know...It doesnt matter the professor's background..ochem should not be included in bio 1.

 

[KTownGT]

😴

Do you think you are studying enough? or the right way? Bio is all about memorization and understanding a few basic concepts, but other than that is basic memorization stuff.

Why dont you get together with those people who got As and Bs and see what they are doing different than you? Maybe be part of their study group?

And about the Ochem in Bio 1...I dont know...It doesnt matter the professor's background..ochem should not be included in bio 1.

Where General Bio classes are weed out classes, this is completely wrong.

And the professor can put in anything he wants in a class. Don't get psyched out over O.chem OP, if you are having trouble with it buy a O chem for dummies book.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

😴

Do you think you are studying enough? or the right way? Bio is all about memorization and understanding a few basic concepts, but other than that is basic memorization stuff.

Why dont you get together with those people who got As and Bs and see what they are doing different than you? Maybe be part of their study group?

And about the Ochem in Bio 1...I dont know...It doesnt matter the professor's background..ochem should not be included in bio 1.

My biology teacher for bio 1 was a BMB ( biochemistry & molecular biologist). He told us that organic and biochemistry outside of remembering like some simple things and maybe the structure of fat or understanding why dna binds isn't what this course is about.
So I'd say that organic chem shouldn't be a big role. However simple chemistry and simple organic/ biochem should be covered.

 

[ghostridermedic]

😴

Do you think you are studying enough? or the right way? Bio is all about memorization and understanding a few basic concepts, but other than that is basic memorization stuff.

I studided a ton, maybe 10 acutal hours? Went to the weekly study group... took the practice test a dozen times.

IDK, just some of the chem concepts i wasnt getting. Cant blame anyone but myself i guess, but I need to decide a path for this class soon...

Ill wait till the next test. If i get an A, I could pull a B out of the class including labs and such.

 

[MexicanDr]

I studided a ton, maybe 10 acutal hours? Went to the weekly study group... took the practice test a dozen times.

IDK, just some of the chem concepts i wasnt getting. Cant blame anyone but myself i guess, but I need to decide a path for this class soon...

Ill wait till the next test. If i get an A, I could pull a B out of the class including labs and such.

Talk to the professor and talk to the students who got As and Bs. I would do this to get a general idea of the whole testing situation.

Good luck bro.

 

[PreMedder]

and apparently my teacher is making sure we learn all the Orgo chem 1&2 stuff now instead of in... shocking... Orgo 1&2.

do not believe.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

do not believe.

I remember complaining about this samething in ap bio when we had to learn about carboxyl groups, and fats, ester bonds blah blah blah. But yah, that's like week 1-2 of organic chemistry.
However if there actually learning heavy o-chem well that's laughable and wrong.

 

[mspeedwagon]

I'd imagine the OP mean the first few weeks of biochem. Orgo I and II mechanisms/synthesis is completely irrelevant for biology. I'd imagine naming and going over the different groups (carbohydrates, proteins, etc.) to be a lot more relevant to biology.

do not believe.

 

[mspeedwagon]

Can't say the same about my undergrad... they really focused on weeding people out in chem classes and they did a pretty darn good job. I know a ton of people from my undergrad that made it to med school after having to post-bac their classes cause they couldn't pass them at my undergrad.

For those that see this and are considering attending my undergrad institute: it's great if you want to go a Top 20 med school (however, there is a good chance you will get weeded out).

At Texas Tech, Bio I and II are the pre-med weed out classes.

30-40% out of ~600 students drop, and about 40% of the class who didn't drop fail miserably.

EDIT: Oh yea, the tests are open note tests. The prof also puts old tests and essay tests online.

 

[mcgyver]

I studided a ton, maybe 10 acutal hours? Went to the weekly study group... took the practice test a dozen times.

IDK, just some of the chem concepts i wasnt getting. Cant blame anyone but myself i guess, but I need to decide a path for this class soon...

Ill wait till the next test. If i get an A, I could pull a B out of the class including labs and such.

10 hours total?

 

[KTownGT]

Can't say the same about my undergrad... they really focused on weeding people out in chem classes and they did a pretty darn good job. I know a ton of people from my undergrad that made it to med school after having to post-bac their classes cause they couldn't pass them at my undergrad.

For those that see this and are considering attending my undergrad institute: it's great if you want to go a Top 20 med school (however, there is a good chance you will get weeded out).

Lucky. haha

The professor mentioned that he models his tests after the MCAT and PCAT. He gives a big 'ol speech on the first day telling people to drop for a multitude of reasons. Freshman are also barred from taking the course.

Here are a few of his tests from Bio I, and Bio II on his website. Keep in mind notes are allowed during tests:
http://courses.ttu.edu/biol1403-mdini/Tests%20&%20Study%20Guides%201403/1997T&SGs.htm

Scroll towards the bottom of each page to view the more recent classes.

I think it is too complicated of a course for a general biology class though. I only recopied my notes honestly the day before the test, and earned a B+ both semesters because my lab grade(35% of grade) was always a C.

Chem at Tech isn't too hard, I'd say from the classes I've taken(Gen 1 and 2 + orgo I) that the difficulty is average.

 

[PreMedder]

I'd imagine the OP mean the first few weeks of biochem. Orgo I and II mechanisms/synthesis is completely irrelevant for biology. I'd imagine naming and going over the different groups (carbohydrates, proteins, etc.) to be a lot more relevant to biology.

Yes - you might have missed that I bolded "all" in the quote for emphasis.

 

[Cleavername]

42

Teachers quote was " you all need to be studying more "

i all most fell out of my chair haha

are the tests curved? like only certain % of people can get As? cuse at my school, bio II had like 1.2k people in it rofl. for my year only 7% of total people got As.

 

[Bengarama]

Lucky. haha

The professor mentioned that he models his tests after the MCAT and PCAT. He gives a big 'ol speech on the first day telling people to drop for a multitude of reasons. Freshman are also barred from taking the course.

Here are a few of his tests from Bio I, and Bio II on his website. Keep in mind notes are allowed during tests:
http://courses.ttu.edu/biol1403-mdini/Tests & Study Guides 1403/1997T&SGs.htm

Scroll towards the bottom of each page to view the more recent classes.

I think it is too complicated of a course for a general biology class though. I only recopied my notes honestly the day before the test, and earned a B+ both semesters because my lab grade(35% of grade) was always a C.

Chem at Tech isn't too hard, I'd say from the classes I've taken(Gen 1 and 2 + orgo I) that the difficulty is average.

I only looked over one, but I didn't think that those tests were unduly difficult, especially if they were open note. Also, If you got Cs in lab and still got a B+ in the course, I'm assuming you did alright on the exams. If you got fairly decent grades by only recopying your notes right before the exam what exactly are you complaining about/trying to prove?

 

[PingPongPro]

10 hours total?

I'm with this guy. 10 hours will definitely not suffice when studying for a course like this which requires a ton of memorization. I am studying for my molecular biology final right now, and I've probably studied 10 hours total... counting only today. I've been studying for about a 8 days, and my final is in 5 days.

 

[MedStudentWanna]

I sincerely doubt you're learning all of Orgo 1 and 2 at the start of your Bio I class. What you're probably learning is the basic structures of carbohydrates, fats, lipids, etc. How they work in the cell and how they transport in and out of the cell. That's all Bio. It's also only a lecture, maybe two, worth of Orgo.

I would go to the teacher and ask how to study. I struggled in my Bio I class too because the teacher used a national test bank for her questions so some of them were insanely difficult. There wasn't that much memorization, but TONS of conceptual stuff that drove me nuts. The trick is to learn how to study specifically for the class. Only the professor can help you with that. Good luck!

 

[foofish]

At Texas Tech, Bio I and II are the pre-med weed out classes.

30-40% out of ~600 students drop, and about 40% of the class who didn't drop fail miserably.

EDIT: Oh yea, the tests are open note tests. The prof also puts old tests and essay tests online.

Where I did my premed stuff Bio I & II is also the premed weed-out class. It's only taught by one professor so there's no avoiding it. 😉 It also did have a lot of biochemistry, particularly in Bio I, and some introductory orgo as it relates to molecular biology...but by no means all of orgo. (Hate to break it to you, but orgo gets much much worse than whatever they could be teaching you in a biology class.) My prof's tests required you not just to know the facts, but be able to manipulate concepts and were short answer/essay exams rather than multiple choice. It was a beast and to this day (I'm now an M4) one of the hardest classes I've ever taken.

That said, it was an AMAZING prep for the MCAT and medical school...so OP, try and look at mastering this class as a big boost for setting the foundation for the next few years, don't just focus on your grade (don't get me wrong, that's important too). Now you know what this professor's exams are like, think about his/her approach to testing the material as you go about studying. Instead of focusing on the fact that some of this material isn't typical bio I fare, focus on learning the material. Go to office hours, get a tutor, get review books, form study groups, talk to people who have taken the course in the past for tips and advice. Approach this class as something to conquer and master rather than letting it intimidate you.

 

[KTownGT]

are the tests curved? like only certain % of people can get As? cuse at my school, bio II had like 1.2k people in it rofl. for my year only 7% of total people got As.

The older tests he has listed(1997-) seemed much easier when studying them. No curve either.

I wasn't so much complaining from a personal standpoint. I do think it was too much information for a general Bio I and II class.

 

[Xcellerator]

Lucky. haha

The professor mentioned that he models his tests after the MCAT and PCAT. He gives a big 'ol speech on the first day telling people to drop for a multitude of reasons. Freshman are also barred from taking the course.

Here are a few of his tests from Bio I, and Bio II on his website. Keep in mind notes are allowed during tests:
http://courses.ttu.edu/biol1403-mdini/Tests & Study Guides 1403/1997T&SGs.htm

Scroll towards the bottom of each page to view the more recent classes.

I think it is too complicated of a course for a general biology class though. I only recopied my notes honestly the day before the test, and earned a B+ both semesters because my lab grade(35% of grade) was always a C.

Chem at Tech isn't too hard, I'd say from the classes I've taken(Gen 1 and 2 + orgo I) that the difficulty is average.

Those tests do not look very hard to me. You even get to use notes, wtf lol. You should have seen the tests my Bio II teacher gave me (A&M). Every freakin' question was tricky that had answers like "A, B, C, D, or E", "A & B", "A & C", "B & C", All of the above, none of the above crap. My lab grade was 25% of the overall course grade with the lecture being worth 75%. Labs were pretty hard, especially the practicals. Lectures were ridiculous. Managed out with a 90 in the lab and a 79 in lecture. Ended with a miracle B (my only B). So many kids failed and dropped the course. Barely anyone made an A (maybe 10-15?) out of 600 or so kids. 15% ish got B's, 30% got C's, and the rest failed. I feel like I am totally not prepared for the MCAT lol. Bio I was good, Bio I was a FML class.

And to the OP, there should be no O-chem in Bio. And only 10 hours?! Are you kidding me. -_-

 

[KTownGT]

Those tests do not look very hard to me. You even get to use notes, wtf lol. You should have seen the tests my Bio II teacher gave me (A&M). Every freakin' question was tricky that had answers like "A, B, C, D, or E", "A & B", "A & C", "B & C", All of the above, none of the above crap. My lab grade was 25% of the overall course grade with the lecture being worth 75%. Labs were pretty hard, especially the practicals. Lectures were ridiculous. Managed out with a 90 in the lab and a 79 in lecture. Ended with a miracle B (my only B). So many kids failed and dropped the course. Barely anyone made an A (maybe 10-15?) out of 600 or so kids. 15% ish got B's, 30% got C's, and the rest failed. I feel like I am totally not prepared for the MCAT lol. Bio I was good, Bio I was a FML class.

And to the OP, there should be no O-chem in Bio. And only 10 hours?! Are you kidding me. -_-

Look at the later dated tests(At the bottom when you click on a test). They seem more difficult than the tests issued in 1997. That is Bio I, and I remember every test a bulk of the questions were as you described. LOL

I thought the class wasn't terribly hard, but most everyone I knew dropped or got a low C high D.

Two of my buddies who went to A&M and transferred to Tech said the Bio department in Aggie land was "much easier."

 

[thejetplane]

Lucky. haha

The professor mentioned that he models his tests after the MCAT and PCAT. He gives a big 'ol speech on the first day telling people to drop for a multitude of reasons. Freshman are also barred from taking the course.

Here are a few of his tests from Bio I, and Bio II on his website. Keep in mind notes are allowed during tests:
http://courses.ttu.edu/biol1403-mdini/Tests & Study Guides 1403/1997T&SGs.htm

Scroll towards the bottom of each page to view the more recent classes.

I think it is too complicated of a course for a general biology class though. I only recopied my notes honestly the day before the test, and earned a B+ both semesters because my lab grade(35% of grade) was always a C.

Chem at Tech isn't too hard, I'd say from the classes I've taken(Gen 1 and 2 + orgo I) that the difficulty is average.

What? That is probably the easiest college bio test I have ever seen. Be happy you didn't go to my first undergrad- bio tests consisted of short answer questions followed by essay questions, all hand-graded by angry TA's.

 

[mcgyver]

I'm with this guy. 10 hours will definitely not suffice when studying for a course like this which requires a ton of memorization. I am studying for my molecular biology final right now, and I've probably studied 10 hours total... counting only today. I've been studying for about a 8 days, and my final is in 5 days.

maybe if you had studied 20 hours instead of 10 hours you'd have passed.

 

[Xcellerator]

Look at the later dated tests(At the bottom when you click on a test). They seem more difficult than the tests issued in 1997. That is Bio I, and I remember every test a bulk of the questions were as you described. LOL

I thought the class wasn't terribly hard, but most everyone I knew dropped or got a low C high D.

Two of my buddies who went to A&M and transferred to Tech said the Bio department in Aggie land was "much easier."

Yeah, I looked at those and they still seem pretty straighforward. Nothing too difficult.

Are you sure about your A&M buddies? Tech isn't really known for its education lol (no offense). Idk about your buddies but we had a new Bio II prof since the old one retired/quit. Prof said she wasn't trying to trick us, but her test were so tricky and had many errors. She was new alright. -_-
For Bio I, I luckily picked a good professor. It looks like from Myedu, there was only one prof for Bio I for Tech, so I could see how that must have sucked. xD

 

[ghostridermedic]

maybe if you had studied 20 hours instead of 10 hours you'd have passed.

haha yea maybe, 10 hours on my own time plus the 8 hours in class plus 4 hour study group...

The summer sessions are fast, 4 days of lecture then test the following week

i got the EK books from a friend, im going through those to see if it helps grasp the concepts more...

 

[KTownGT]

Yeah, I looked at those and they still seem pretty straighforward. Nothing too difficult.

Are you sure about your A&M buddies? Tech isn't really known for its education lol (no offense). Idk about your buddies but we had a new Bio II prof since the old one retired/quit. Prof said she wasn't trying to trick us, but her test were so tricky and had many errors. She was new alright. -_-
For Bio I, I luckily picked a good professor. It looks like from Myedu, there was only one prof for Bio I for Tech, so I could see how that must have sucked. xD

Meh, it's a state university. Adcoms and interviewers don't see much difference between Tech, A&M, UTA, UNT, etc.

Tech's been having millions poured into it since about 2003ish from the Texas government and education quality and research endowments have been skyrocketing. Tech has improved their academic profile a ton, even since my sister attended back in '05. They've been lowering their admission stats(~500's on each SAT section) slightly since '09, which seems counter productive. But, whatev.

Well, yea, looking back at the tests, everything seems much easier. Meh, it was harder back in the day. And yea, Dr. Dini for Bio I and half of Bio II. I noticed that the people who did well in his class had no problem with him... The others hated and cursed his existence... Weird huh?

What were test questions like at A&M?

Both finished Bio I at A&M-CS last Fall with A's and then transferred. They struggled a hella ton in Bio II.

 

[Xcellerator]

Meh, it's a state university. Adcoms and interviewers don't see much difference between Tech, A&M, UTA, UNT, etc.

Tech's been having millions poured into it since about 2003ish from the Texas government and education quality and research endowments have been skyrocketing. Tech has improved their academic profile a ton, even since my sister attended back in '05. They've been lowering their admission stats(~500's on each SAT section) slightly since '09, which seems counter productive. But, whatev.

Well, yea, looking back at the tests, everything seems much easier. Meh, it was harder back in the day. And yea, Dr. Dini for Bio I and half of Bio II. I noticed that the people who did well in his class had no problem with him... The others hated and cursed his existence... Weird huh?

What were test questions like at A&M?

Both finished Bio I at A&M-CS last Fall with A's and then transferred. They struggled a hella ton in Bio II.

Nahhh, A&M & UT are viewed -> Tech, UNT, and all other public and private universities besides Rice and maybe Baylor. At least that's what my a couple of Med school adcoms & and advisors told me. Tech is getting up there, but it still has a long way to go.

Haha, I guess. Lots of times, the difficulty of the course is up to prof. I still think my Bio II tests were hard after even going over them lots of times.

Bio I test questions were similar to yours. I made A's on those tests and got an A in the class. For Bio II, the questions were totally different, specific and tricky with often a lot of errors (grammatical and wrong answers).

Here's a sample question from Bio II:

Which of the following sequences is INCORRECT?
A. meiosis, mycelium, plasmogamy, zygosporangium, karyogamy
B. karyogamy, heterokaryote, plasmogamy, basidiocarp
C. haploidy, plasmogamy, karyogamy, diplody, meiosis
D. plasmogamy, basidiocarp, karyogamy, meiosis
E. A & B
AB. B & C
AC. All of the above

Bio II was wayy harder than Bio I for sure. Why did they transfer? Doesn't make sense if they made A's lol.

 

[KTownGT]

Nahhh, A&M & UT are viewed -> Tech, UNT, and all other public and private universities besides Rice and maybe Baylor. At least that's what my a couple of Med school adcoms & and advisors told me. Tech is getting up there, but it still has a long way to go.

Haha, I guess. Lots of times, the difficulty of the course is up to prof. I still think my Bio II tests were hard after even going over them lots of times.

Bio I test questions were similar to yours. I made A's on those tests and got an A in the class. For Bio II, the questions were totally different, specific and tricky with often a lot of errors (grammatical and wrong answers).

Here's a sample question from Bio II: Bio II was wayy harder than Bio I for sure. Why did they transfer? Doesn't make sense if they made A's lol.

Not really. I'd say Ivies(public Ivies, too) are viewed marginally better than state schools. Especially if you go out of state, I doubt many adcoms know much difference between TTU and A&M-CS. 👍 (Gig 'em)

UTA = UT Arlington too.

If you peruse a few forums(Aggie nut huggin' is rampant on bodybuilding.com, for instance) I've learned that most anything Aggies say regarding Raiders is nulled-and-voided. haha

Looks like y'all covered Fungi more so than we did in Bio-II. We spent most of the interesting half of the semester(Dini's half; not McGuinleys half) on MBIO and Immune response. I'm NOT sad about that though.

They just didn't like A&M they said. I toured A&M(and was supposed to go there) and realized quickly that CS wasn't the right place for me. Tech was also a hell of a lot cheaper than TCU, so the decision was very easy.

EDIT: Definitely true about professors controlling the difficulty of the class.

 

[mspeedwagon]

What public Ivies? None of the Ivy League schools are public!

Not really. I'd say Ivies(public Ivies, too) are viewed marginally better than state schools.

 

[mcgyver]

What public Ivies? None of the Ivy League schools are public!

pub ivy = good pub school comparable to ivies. ie. berkeley, uva.

 

[mspeedwagon]

Haven't heard the term before, but that is what I guessed. Thanks for the confirmation.

pub ivy = good pub school comparable to ivies. ie. berkeley, uva.

 

[mcgyver]

haha yea maybe, 10 hours on my own time plus the 8 hours in class plus 4 hour study group...

The summer sessions are fast, 4 days of lecture then test the following week

i got the EK books from a friend, im going through those to see if it helps grasp the concepts more...

i think you should study 2x-3x of class time out side of class if you want to be solid. so 8 hours of class you should probably put in 16-24 hours outside of class to study on your own.

 

[KTownGT]

Haven't heard the term before, but that is what I guessed. Thanks for the confirmation.

• College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
• Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
• University of California (campuses as of 1985)[6]
• University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
• University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
• University of Texas at Austin
• University of Vermont (Burlington)
• University of Virginia (Charlottesville)

Moll also offered in the same book an additional nine colleges forming "a list of worthy runners-up" with brief summaries of them[7]:

• University of Colorado at Boulder
• Georgia Institute of Technology
• University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
• New College of the University of South Florida, now New College of Florida
• Pennsylvania State University at University Park
• University of Pittsburgh
• State University of New York at Binghamton, commonly Binghamton University
• University of Washington at Seattle
• University of Wisconsin–Madison

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy

😛

 

[Cleavername]

The older tests he has listed(1997-) seemed much easier when studying them. No curve either.

I wasn't so much complaining from a personal standpoint. I do think it was too much information for a general Bio I and II class.

wut skool do u go to, like is it high rated? cuse they tend to do something like that lol.

 

[ownage]

People always asked me how I studied for the exams. And the truth was all I did was read the chapters once. And then read them again the day before the test. And pretty much go and take the test. Simple. This was pretty much all I did for Bio tests. Didn't even attend lectures.

I suggested my friend to do the same but he still did not do too well. So I asked him to try summarizing every section in his own words after reading each section. Even better write it down. he went from Dto B. So clearly he was reading but nothing was registering in his head.

 

[Xcellerator]

Not really. I'd say Ivies(public Ivies, too) are viewed marginally better than state schools. Especially if you go out of state, I doubt many adcoms know much difference between TTU and A&M-CS. 👍 (Gig 'em)

UTA = UT Arlington too.

If you peruse a few forums(Aggie nut huggin' is rampant on bodybuilding.com, for instance) I've learned that most anything Aggies say regarding Raiders is nulled-and-voided. haha

Looks like y'all covered Fungi more so than we did in Bio-II. We spent most of the interesting half of the semester(Dini's half; not McGuinleys half) on MBIO and Immune response. I'm NOT sad about that though.

They just didn't like A&M they said. I toured A&M(and was supposed to go there) and realized quickly that CS wasn't the right place for me. Tech was also a hell of a lot cheaper than TCU, so the decision was very easy.

EDIT: Definitely true about professors controlling the difficulty of the class.

Well, I'm actually transferring to UT this upcoming year. So I will be in a "public ivy" hahaha. A lot of people in Texas know the differences b/w in-state schools. But yeah, for OOS, most probably only know Rice and maybe A&M/UT.

Well, that was like only one of the three Fungi questions on there lol. We didn't cover very much in our course. Maybe got through like 17 or so chapters. :/

I can see how CS wouldn't feel right. I just went to A&M b/c I got rejected by UT and Rice. A&M was the next prestigious school on my list lol. TCU is an alright school. Well now I'm transferring to UT b/c of the research opportunities, hospitals, and the city. 😀 There isn't much in Lubbock, though... I've heard there's lots of tumbleweed there. xD

 

[KTownGT]

Well, I'm actually transferring to UT this upcoming year. So I will be in a "public ivy" hahaha. A lot of people in Texas know the differences b/w in-state schools. But yeah, for OOS, most probably only know Rice and maybe A&M/UT.

Well, that was like only one of the three Fungi questions on there lol. We didn't cover very much in our course. Maybe got through like 17 or so chapters. :/

I can see how CS wouldn't feel right. I just went to A&M b/c I got rejected by UT and Rice. A&M was the next prestigious school on my list lol. TCU is an alright school. Well now I'm transferring to UT b/c of the research opportunities, hospitals, and the city. 😀 There isn't much in Lubbock, though... I've heard there's lots of tumbleweed there. xD

Nice, I didn't get into UT either. If you're hardcore conservative, you'll have fun adapting to Austin.. Good job on the transfer acceptance. I was wanting to transfer too after a year, but etched out a good clique(science and dance majors, mmm ) and decided to stay. You need to be a very special person to be able to like living in CS and Lubbock.

Meh, outside of Texas, support for A&M/etc. drops a ton. There are multiple Ag and Mech schools in the US, and A&M has a crappy football program. I'd venture to say since Tech's sports programs have improved drastically since 2000(Here's to an even better year under Tubbs!) that Tech is a more recognizable school over A&M. Outside of Texas, of course.

Lubbock isn't that bad really, other than the cow smell that comes in when the wind shifts... Plenty of parties, hospitals, and super cheap living make it a decent city to live in... Just don't make "bad decisions" with the locals(very high STi rates), and you'll be fine.

Don't have too much fun on 6th street, btw.

 

[FIREitUP]

OP should consider studying instead of whining about getting a bad grade on SDN. Bio is what you put into it, and clearly you didnt put in enough. Stop being lazy and change your ways; I guarantee your grade will improve.

 

[whitecoatdream]

So im a non-trad student, taking my pre-med classes this summer and the next 2 semesters.

Chem has been easy so far, 1st test is coming up but other then memorizing some formulas and conversions it seems easy.

Bio was easy until I took the 1st test. Got done ahead of everyone else and ended up failing!

almost 60% failed the test, so I didnt feel that bad.... but still.

So If i end up with a C i guess ill stay and not drop, but man i better get A's in the other sciences...

Any suggestions for this class? Its a ton of information and apparently my teacher is making sure we learn all the Orgo chem 1&2 stuff now instead of in... shocking... Orgo 1&2.

ugh

60% of the class sounds a little bizarre but I suggest you do well on the other exams or ( if you receive a C) take bio 2 over because its a pre-req. how were these exams formatted? and why are you learning orgo in bio 2? just curious..

 

[Cleavername]

• College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
• Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
• University of California (campuses as of 1985)[6]
• University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
• University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
• University of Texas at Austin
• University of Vermont (Burlington)
• University of Virginia (Charlottesville)

Moll also offered in the same book an additional nine colleges forming "a list of worthy runners-up" with brief summaries of them[7]:

• University of Colorado at Boulder
• Georgia Institute of Technology
• University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
• New College of the University of South Florida, now New College of Florida
• Pennsylvania State University at University Park
• University of Pittsburgh
• State University of New York at Binghamton, commonly Binghamton University
• University of Washington at Seattle
• University of Wisconsin–Madison

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy

😛

whoa interesting. i would expected stony brook to be in there, but i guess not.

 

[ShinyDome19]

At Texas Tech, Bio I and II are the pre-med weed out classes.

30-40% out of ~600 students drop, and about 40% of the class who didn't drop fail miserably.

EDIT: Oh yea, the tests are open note tests. The prof also puts old tests and essay tests online.

Woot Dr. Dini FTW

 

[Shaq]

i don't think you should have such a negative attitude towards your basic science classes. change your mentality and actually try and learn something. you will consistently ace every test.

if science doesn't interest you or excite you pick a different profession.