Getting "pushed" into DO and irritated!!!!

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So at the end of the day, it is best to be 23/24 applying with a killer app. 😉

Bleh, I can't agree at all. While there may be a school here are there that looks "down" on older applicants, I found it a topic (started by the interviewer in nearly every interview) of how mature older applicants are, how well they do, and how med schools are starting to lean more that way anyway. With so many young applicants, having real world experience, and life experience is becoming a selling point to med schools who are investing quite a bit in their students.
 
My goodness, you just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper and keep making yourself look like more of an ass.

Your claim to some miraculous intellect is that you remembered a name and two terms that you didn't understand?

Kitty Genovese. Bystander effect. Diffusion of responsibility. NOT because they didn't want to get involved. Get your psychology straight before you use it to support your argument.

Odd it sure looks like your claiming those were the causes of the event. You even went so far as to claim I needed to get my psychology straight, which seems to imply yours was.Then you later tell us the following.

The three things I recall from my psych class were the name, and the two psych terms, which I posted. Obviously things you didn't know.

You had some real winners in your posts, in particular because of how many things you misunderstood or didn't read carefully enough. Have you heard the story about people who live in glass houses?

Read for comprehension, *****. At the very least, get your facts straight before you use them to support your argument.

For a future physician you sure have the whole tact and humility thing down don't you? Are you going to brag to your poor patients and show them your paycheck? :laugh:

From the guy who couldn't pull the name of the person he was using as an example, yeah, buddy, I'm smarter than you.

Here's a prime example of where you have trouble reading. There was no change of story, my first post said dozens of people HEARD it! You know, all the ISOLATED PEOPLE in their homes and apartments that surrounded the crime scene? 😱 That was the whole point to the case.

For one, stop changing the story:
So you were educated on the Genovese murder, so you quickly changed the tune from 'dozens' to 'isolated'. Good for you. So you learned something. Good for you. As I said before, if you're gonna use an example, better make it the right one. Better yet, know what the hell you're talking about.

I'm glad you remembered her name and two psychology terms you learned in class that WERE NOT THE CAUSE. In case you hadn't noticed, despite your childish prattle and name calling, I was right from the start, eventhough I didn't recall her name. Funny how you knew exactly who I was talking about though. What's even more entertaining is that I thanked you for remembering the name in the following post. Need I mention your first post was wrong in suggesting the causes were Diffusion of Responsibility and Bystander Effect? You know, the post where you told me to get my psychology straight?

I've never even taken a psych class, I knew about the case from a lib-ed criminal justice course talking about the false reporting and what really happened as well as witness problems. The observation that people in the surrounding homes didn't want to get involved seemed pretty obvious and was my own supposition.

You pulled out the Genovese murder to make a comparison without knowing anything about it, and now that you know, it's contextually wrong to use as an example. Oops.

As it turns out in the end my context was correct, yours was wrong. You brought up two terms that are explicit for behavior of crowds. I didn't know anything about the phenomena, you pretended to though. I simply looked them up on the equivelent of a bubble gum wrapper (Wikipedia), after you mentioned them, to discover you misunderstood them. Apparently you should have done the same before putting an enormous foot in your mouth.

Instead of saying, 'ah yes, Genovese, right', you get all huffy...

You mean like "thanks for coming up with the name btw" that was in my response?

about it and pull out Wikipedia of all things, as a source...

OMG, for someone that tells people to "read for comprehension *****." I almost peed my pants when you didn't understand the sarcasm in this statement. "I "edumahcated" myself about those big words on Wikipedia, the final word on all things scientific..."

...and start yammering about how it had nothing to do with the terms. Dude. They came from the Genovese case. That's why they're related.

Again you lost out on the whole comprehension bit, odd. They came from a MISUNDERSTANDING of the Genovese case based on false reports. You posted as if they were the cause, not just connected to the case tangentially. Here, let me refresh your quote again that you seem to be pretending never happened.

Kitty Genovese. Bystander effect. Diffusion of responsibility. NOT because they didn't want to get involved. Get your psychology straight before you use it to support your argument.

Notwithstanding your jewels of prose above, "Read for comprehension, *****" and "yeah, buddy, I'm smarter than you" that quote above sure looks like you're claiming to know exactly what the cause was and how wrong I was and now you're trying to pretend you never posted those cocky know-it-all bits, you know, the ones that were wrong.

Reading the last quotes from you below I just feel so sorry for you. You were so innocently trying to help your fellow forum members and were unjustly attacked. What a commentary on our brutish society, attacked while you tried to aid me, after all you are a healer. 🙄

Then you assign me the role of psych authority and attack me for my lack of psych knowledge.

Hey buddy, I just knew the name of the girl who got shanked and the two psych terms that came from her killing, and you didn't. No big deal. Is any of this going to get you into med school? No. Just let it go, big guy.

Just. Next time, don't talk about **** you know nothing about. 'K?

You really are a piece of work. I agree you should just drop it, calling people ***** and telling them how much smarter you are is not a winning formula.
 
Bleh, I can't agree at all. While there may be a school here are there that looks "down" on older applicants, I found it a topic (started by the interviewer in nearly every interview) of how mature older applicants are, how well they do, and how med schools are starting to lean more that way anyway. With so many young applicants, having real world experience, and life experience is becoming a selling point to med schools who are investing quite a bit in their students.


Now that the little distraction is out of the way, I'd be interested to hear if there's any data out there about average years in practice etc. relative to when people entered medical school. Do people that start med school later tend to retire later? Perhaps there isn't such a disparity in length of service? I have no real desire to ever retire. I can see cutting hours back and maybe changing to rural practice to slow the pace down a bit after 60.
 
OP: Just apply to both. Why? You would increase your chances of acceptance by applying to a larger range of programs. Your stats are good but average for allo. Do you really want to take the risk of not being accepted this cycle and having to spend more years re-applying (remember only 40% of applicants are accepted each year and 1/3 of those are re-applicants).

In terms of age: Yes, I believe DO schools traditionally have more non-trads. People who have families and prior job experience. My school is about 60% non-trad with about 30-40% of those having families. You can tell a big difference between those who are fresh out of college and non-trads in terms of maturity. Either way you go, you are not going find more than 1 or 2 people your age in your class. The difference is that at an MD school you will be surrounded by a lot more 20 something's who like to party every chance they get which can be socially isolating for older students.

Don't feel "pushed". Just consider this as another option that broadens you chances of achieving your dream.
 
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