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Hi, I am a long time lurker on SDN. I was fortunately accepted to two DO programs this cycle. However, I also read about how DOs have a harder time to go into competitive residencies, and the residency merger in 2020 might make specializing even more difficult since MDs can then apply to DO residencies. I think the only competitive specialty that I have in mind right now is Orthopedic Surgery (along with internal medicine and PMR), but I am not sure if I would like to try for other competitive specialties when I progress through med school. I fear that no matter how hard I work, I will be disregarded by some PDs out there because I am a DO.

My current stats: GPA 3.5 and MCAT 30. I wouldn't be aiming for top MD programs, but an MD is an MD. Should I just stick with DO programs or should I try my chances at MD schools after I improve my grades and MCAT?

Take the D.O. and run! 3.5/30 isn't bad (in fact it's great for D.O.), but it would be an uphill but not impossible road to get an MD. Ortho would be very hard with D.O. but IM and lots of other specialties would still be on the table.

Bottomline you can still get a good residency as D.O. in almost anything besides the super competitive small fields.
 
You are being given a chance that thousands of people would drop 1k on the deposit at the drop of a hat. If you think DO restricts you to primary care then you have never been in the hospital setting. There is Dos in every specialty, is it harder to get in as a DO? some would argue yes but i dont see every MD specializing. The only thing that restricts as a DO is you own self motivation to do well.

And residency programs that filter out all DO apps.
 
Right, I just dont agree with the concept that the only thing that can hold a DO student back is themselves. There are a significant amount of programs that dont even look at DO apps. That doesnt mean going DO is a bad idea, but one should know the things that are often glossed over on this forum.
No doubt about the filtering but i am being very general about it. There is also programs that filter out IMG but they are MD so why arent they getting into ortho or derm. I had a friend who did something similar. He turned down his only acceptance to CCOM and re applied, he had slightly higher stats than OP. No md school took him the following year. This year he got accepted to one of the touros and hes going with it. Learn from others mistakes so you dont make your own. Is there a chance that OP will get into a MD program? Probably but why risk it ? those are my thoughts but you are right.
 
The whole field of IM has become more competitive and selective. Med students are a risk-averse and pragmatic bunch. The students who had been going to fields like anesthesia and radiology started looking to IM subspecialties as the job market in those fields began to tighten. Gen surg has also been getting less popular because of lifestyle considerations though those applicants tend to go less to IM. Just go scan the match lists of Top 20 US MD schools and you'll find these trends on full display. Only a handful going into anesthesia and radiology and dozens flocking to IM. As a consequence it is getting harder for those who aren't at top US MD schools to break into top IM programs. You really have to have a stellar application. There's a continuum from there on down with mid-tier programs catching some of those applicants who couldn't quite crack the top tier. Go look at this year's IM match results thread to get an idea.

Off the top of my head I think maybe Temple and LIJ have stopped taking DOs into their IM programs recently. None of the top tier programs consider DOs and only a handful of mid-tier programs do. They tend to be in less desirable locations.
Can you define a mid tier program? I thought Stony Brook was a mid tier program... Is UMiami a mid tier or top tier?
 
Why has nobody asked the golden question? What state are you a resident of? If you live in florida, kentucky or some other easy state you have a great shot of getting in. If you live in CA then the conversation completely changes.
OP MCAT is ok for FSU/FIU, but his GPA is below average... I don't think he would be very competitive for FAU (3.7 GPA/31MCAT), UCF/USF (3.7 GPA/32MCAT), UMiami (3.7/33), UF (3.8/33)...
 
Can you define a mid tier program? I thought Stony Brook was a mid tier program... Is UMiami a mid tier or top tier?

No I can't define mid-tier and that's part of the issue with these "rankings" because it comes down to gestalt and knowing the program. SB I know quite well (went to med school there), no clue about UMiami as it is outside my geographic region.
 
I am a 3.5 gpa and 30 MCAT applicant from California, if that changes anything...
 
I am a 3.5 gpa and 30 MCAT applicant from California, if that changes anything...

California is basically out of the question for MD, so if that's your plan for next year, I would forget about it and come up with alternatives immediately. The bottom line is, and only you know, is whether or not you'll be happy being a primary care doc. Most likely that's where you'll land by going down the DO road.
 
California is basically out of the question for MD, so if that's your plan for next year, I would forget about it and come up with alternatives immediately. The bottom line is, and only you know, is whether or not you'll be happy being a primary care doc. Most likely that's where you'll land by going down the DO road.
Really! Do >50% of DO students go into primary care (IM/FM/Peds)?
 
No I can't define mid-tier and that's part of the issue with these "rankings" because it comes down to gestalt and knowing the program. SB I know quite well (went to med school there), no clue about UMiami as it is outside my geographic region.
I see people in SDN throw these terms so often, so I was curious about the criteria they use.... Since you are familiar with SB, what make you say their IM program is low tier? Is it quality of education, working hours/calls etc.., salary/benefits, % of residents who go on to complete fellowships and/or become BC, the general atmosphere etc... I thought once a program is affiliated with a reputable medical school, they are (or should be) automatically mid-tier, and from there people can judge them based on gestalt (as you put it). I want to know what to use to judge programs when I am on the interview trail for psych and/or IM next year... Is doximity a reliable source?
 
In no way does DO "force" you into primary care. If you are a DO and are forced to do PC then that means you sucked as a student. Bottom line. A lot of DOs go into PC because that is what they want to do. It has nothing to do with being "forced" there. And a decent number of those Peds or IM matches go onto fellowship, which makes them no longer PC but doesn't get reported by the schools because it is long after those students graduate. No you won't be doing Ortho at HSS but I hate to break it to you but you probably weren't doing that any way. Are some fields more difficult to obtain as a DO? Absolutely. Does DO doom you to FM if that isn't what you want to do? No.

You were a borderline candidate for MD even if you weren't from CA. This choice really is as simple as "do you want to be a doctor or not?" Because if you drop these acceptances you will most likely never have DO as a back up again. That is a huge risk for a 3.5/30 applicant from CA.
 
I see people in SDN throw these terms so often, so I was curious about the criteria they use.... Since you are familiar with SB, what make you say their IM program is low tier? Is it quality of education, working hours/calls etc.., salary/benefits, % of residents who go on to complete fellowships and/or become BC, the general atmosphere etc... I thought once a program is affiliated with a reputable medical school, they are (or should be) automatically mid-tier, and from there people can judge them based on gestalt (as you put it). I want to know what to use to judge programs when I am on the interview trail for psych and/or IM next year... Is doximity a reliable source?

It really is more about perception than it is about hard facts though there are some you can try to tease out. There were residents at the program that decided not to pursue a certain fellowship because they were not competitive coming from the program. I also knew residents who failed to match. Hard to tease out whether it's because of the program or because those residents were IMGs and DOs. Typically though state school IM programs in the northeast tend to be "low tier" - SUNY downstate, upstate, buffalo and SB; UConn, UMass, etc. I would call RWJ mid-tier however.

Doximity is garbage. When on the interview trail for IM you can look at the match lists, ask residents about what kind of research they're doing and how common/difficult is it to be involved in research, what the outcome of that research is, how many big name subspecialists are around to potentially vouch for you (remember it's the second most important criteria when applying to fellowship). If your goal is to be a hospitalist or do primary care where you go to residency won't matter as much though you'll likely get a better education at a university program and will be recruited more heavily if you are at a rigorous program.

It has nothing to do with being "forced" there. And a decent number of those Peds or IM matches go onto fellowship, which makes them no longer PC but doesn't get reported by the schools because it is long after those students graduate.

This is certainly not true for IM and peds matches at AOA programs. If you look at the medicine specialty match stats the absolute number of DOs is quite small and the majority are in subspecialties that are not competitive (because they don't make much more, and sometimes make less than general medicine): endocrine, ID, nephro
 
Dont be "that" guy that declines DO, doesn't get into md, then cries. Or be that guy and give me your DO spot lmao. Either way - plenty of excellent advice here.
 
If one of your DO acceptance is Western, go to Western.

Otherwise, just go MD and let someone who's grateful have your DO acceptances. Why did you apply DO in the first place if you're going to question if you should go DO or not?
 
It really is more about perception than it is about hard facts though there are some you can try to tease out. There were residents at the program that decided not to pursue a certain fellowship because they were not competitive coming from the program. I also knew residents who failed to match. Hard to tease out whether it's because of the program or because those residents were IMGs and DOs. Typically though state school IM programs in the northeast tend to be "low tier" - SUNY downstate, upstate, buffalo and SB; UConn, UMass, etc. I would call RWJ mid-tier however.

Doximity is garbage. When on the interview trail for IM you can look at the match lists, ask residents about what kind of research they're doing and how common/difficult is it to be involved in research, what the outcome of that research is, how many big name subspecialists are around to potentially vouch for you (remember it's the second most important criteria when applying to fellowship). If your goal is to be a hospitalist or do primary care where you go to residency won't matter as much though you'll likely get a better education at a university program and will be recruited more heavily if you are at a rigorous program.



This is certainly not true for IM and peds matches at AOA programs. If you look at the medicine specialty match stats the absolute number of DOs is quite small and the majority are in subspecialties that are not competitive (because they don't make much more, and sometimes make less than general medicine): endocrine, ID, nephro


If you're going for something like ID, does the IM program you come from or DO/IMG status matter much? I saw that ID doesnt fill but that there are still some people who fail to match? Do you know the reasons why people fail to match even uncompetitive fellowships?
 
If you're going for something like ID, does the IM program you come from or DO/IMG status matter much? I saw that ID doesnt fill but that there are still some people who fail to match? Do you know the reasons why people fail to match even uncompetitive fellowships?

Typically personal limitations like geography. There are more spots than there are applicants so if you don't have any geographic limitations or red flags you'll likely find a spot.
 
This is certainly not true for IM and peds matches at AOA programs. If you look at the medicine specialty match stats the absolute number of DOs is quite small and the majority are in subspecialties that are not competitive (because they don't make much more, and sometimes make less than general medicine): endocrine, ID, nephro

Oh absolutely, but if even just 10 end up going on to fellowship then the true percentage in PC drops a bit, that was mostly my point there. I think this is all moot with OP being a 3.5/30 applicant from CA. You can't ever even try for ortho or something competative if you don't get into medical school first.
 
Go DO. I am from Cali and had a 31/3.5 with lots of EC and didn't get an MD invite. California really makes it difficult to get into MD schools. Although a 3.5 is lower than average, these stats would most likely get an interview or two in most states.

Go to The DO school. Work hard. Become a doctor. There are plenty of people that become surgeons, EM docs, etc. just because you go to DO school doesn't mean you're gonna end up in Podunk, North Dakota.


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Go DO. I am from Cali and had a 31/3.5 with lots of EC and didn't get an MD invite. California really makes it difficult to get into MD schools. Although a 3.5 is lower than average, these stats would most likely get an interview or two in most states.

Go to The DO school. Work hard. Become a doctor. There are plenty of people that become surgeons, EM docs, etc. just because you go to DO school doesn't mean you're gonna end up in Podunk, North Dakota.


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But it does mean you may end up in Podunk, South Dakota.


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But it does mean you may end up in Podunk, South Dakota.


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If you don't do well enough in med school to where you don't have better options than Podunk, SD you should prolly be happy you matched at all.


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In no way does DO "force" you into primary care. If you are a DO and are forced to do PC then that means you sucked as a student. Bottom line. A lot of DOs go into PC because that is what they want to do. It has nothing to do with being "forced" there. And a decent number of those Peds or IM matches go onto fellowship, which makes them no longer PC but doesn't get reported by the schools because it is long after those students graduate. No you won't be doing Ortho at HSS but I hate to break it to you but you probably weren't doing that any way. Are some fields more difficult to obtain as a DO? Absolutely. Does DO doom you to FM if that isn't what you want to do? No.

I agree with this. A lot of the time, SDN acts like your only post-med school options are Academic Specialty in an Ivory Tour in a Coastal City and Podunk Primary Care in Nowheresville, when there are actually quite a number of options between the extremes for the vast majority of students.
 
I agree with this. A lot of the time, SDN acts like your only post-med school options are Academic Specialty in an Ivory Tour in a Coastal City and Podunk Primary Care in Nowheresville, when there are actually quite a number of options between the extremes for the vast majority of students.

and even primary care in the middle of nowhere provides a better existence than that of the vast majority of people in this country(let alone the world). Still its good to know all the risk before making a decision.
 
Hi, I am a long time lurker on SDN. I was fortunately accepted to two DO programs this cycle. However, I also read about how DOs have a harder time to go into competitive residencies, and the residency merger in 2020 might make specializing even more difficult since MDs can then apply to DO residencies. I think the only competitive specialty that I have in mind right now is Orthopedic Surgery (along with internal medicine and PMR), but I am not sure if I would like to try for other competitive specialties when I progress through med school. I fear that no matter how hard I work, I will be disregarded by some PDs out there because I am a DO.

My current stats: GPA 3.5 and MCAT 30. I wouldn't be aiming for top MD programs, but an MD is an MD. Should I just stick with DO programs or should I try my chances at MD schools after I improve my grades and MCAT?

Go DO. I had higher stats, great ECs, and a really unique back story as a non-trad.....and I got zero MD invites. Being from CA doesn't do you any favors....just go DO and get on with life.
 
But it does mean you may end up in Podunk, South Dakota.


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This statement is SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH. FM is the HOT COMMODITY right now. Sure South Dakota is desperate for doctors and they pay through the teeth for just about anyone. But so is TX, WY, OR, WA, ME, MD, anywhere in the South, Etc. Hell, the WHOLE COUNTRY is short on PCP's as long as you aren't looking at NYC, Portland, Denver, etc. You can get a job anywhere. I just signed an urgent care job in Texas that is guaranteed 243K plus RVU plus incentive bonus, plus full benefits, plus retirement.

Plus, not everyone wants to live in the city. I know I sure don't. Plenty of Northern Cali coast jobs that are actively advertising, and Oregon, and Washington, and Texas, and Maine. Heck all states are advertising. Still get 5-10 emails a day of jobs looking for primary care.
 
This statement is SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH. FM is the HOT COMMODITY right now. Sure South Dakota is desperate for doctors and they pay through the teeth for just about anyone. But so is TX, WY, OR, WA, ME, MD, anywhere in the South, Etc. Hell, the WHOLE COUNTRY is short on PCP's as long as you aren't looking at NYC, Portland, Denver, etc. You can get a job anywhere. I just signed an urgent care job in Texas that is guaranteed 243K plus RVU plus incentive bonus, plus full benefits, plus retirement.

Plus, not everyone wants to live in the city. I know I sure don't. Plenty of Northern Cali coast jobs that are actively advertising, and Oregon, and Washington, and Texas, and Maine. Heck all states are advertising. Still get 5-10 emails a day of jobs looking for primary care.
??? I def didn't mean what you quoted in seriousness at all.


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Hi, I am a long time lurker on SDN. I was fortunately accepted to two DO programs this cycle. However, I also read about how DOs have a harder time to go into competitive residencies, and the residency merger in 2020 might make specializing even more difficult since MDs can then apply to DO residencies. I think the only competitive specialty that I have in mind right now is Orthopedic Surgery (along with internal medicine and PMR), but I am not sure if I would like to try for other competitive specialties when I progress through med school. I fear that no matter how hard I work, I will be disregarded by some PDs out there because I am a DO.

My current stats: GPA 3.5 and MCAT 30. I wouldn't be aiming for top MD programs, but an MD is an MD. Should I just stick with DO programs or should I try my chances at MD schools after I improve my grades and MCAT?

I would say apply to one of the better DO schools, when I mean by "better", the ones that are open for more than 40 years, or ones associated with a state school. Or just go to the best DO school that gave you an offer. Orthopedics as a DO is tough, specialty surgery as a DO is tough, some people get it, most do not.
 
Did you get any MD interviews? If not then I wouldn't reapply because there isn't enough time now to make yourself more competitive for MD programs when AMCAS opens in June and you would have to wait another year to reapply.
 
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Did you get any MD interviews? If not then I wouldn't reapply because there isn't enough time now to make yourself more competitive for MD programs when AMCAS opens in June and you would have to wait another year to reapply.

I doubt he would make it anyway, my stats were better than his and I applied over 6 years ago on two application cycles to MD schools and wound up wait listed both times, and then rejected at both. He should just take his DO acceptance.
 
If one of your DO acceptance is Western, go to Western.

Otherwise, just go MD and let someone who's grateful have your DO acceptances. Why did you apply DO in the first place if you're going to question if you should go DO or not?

My two acceptances were Midwestern and one of the Touros. When I was applying for medical schools, all I wanted is to become a physician without wasting too much time given my low stats. I figured that instead of wasting more time trying to boost my stats in order to become more competitive for MD schools, I would just go for a DO degree and start my journey. However, as I read more about how DOs are discriminated against by some PDs in ACGME competitive specialties, I start to question whether I should take more time to try to gain an acceptance to MD schools. I am only a premed; I don't know whether I will be attracted to the highly competitive fields when I go through medical school, and I don't want my degree to restrict me from going where I want to go. I know that DO schools don't restrict you, but the PDs who have the bias will. With the merger (or the hostile takeover), I am afraid that specializing will become that much more difficult for DOs.

I have nothing against primary care; in fact, I highly considered it for my career. But I also don't really want to be restricted in terms of what specialties I could get into...

Did you get any MD interviews? If not then I wouldn't reapply because there isn't enough time now to make yourself more competitive for MD programs when AMCAS opens in June and you would have to wait another year to reapply.

I did apply to MD schools but I wasn't really realistic about where I applied to...
 
My two acceptances were Midwestern and one of the Touros. When I was applying for medical schools, all I wanted is to become a physician without wasting too much time given my low stats. I figured that instead of wasting more time trying to boost my stats in order to become more competitive for MD schools, I would just go for a DO degree and start my journey. However, as I read more about how DOs are discriminated against by some PDs in ACGME competitive specialties, I start to question whether I should take more time to try to gain an acceptance to MD schools. I am only a premed; I don't know whether I will be attracted to the highly competitive fields when I go through medical school, and I don't want my degree to restrict me from going where I want to go. I know that DO schools don't restrict you, but the PDs who have the bias will. With the merger (or the hostile takeover), I am afraid that specializing will become that much more difficult for DOs.

I have nothing against primary care; in fact, I highly considered it for my career. But I also don't really want to be restricted in terms of what specialties I could get into...



I did apply to MD schools but I wasn't really realistic about where I applied to...
Realistically you are circling the drain as Goro would say. Here are your options
A. Become a doctor, go DO
B. Retake your MCAT, score several points higher, boost the rest of your app, apply MD in 2017 (now you've set yourself back two years). Maybe you get in first try maybe you don't, as a CA resident I think the latter is more likely. You can't apply DO again so that option is out. If you don't get in you could either rinse and repeat or go Caribbean. Any of these options and possibilities is costing you multiple years of attending salary.

You've made your bed, now it's bedtime.
 
My two acceptances were Midwestern and one of the Touros. When I was applying for medical schools, all I wanted is to become a physician without wasting too much time given my low stats. I figured that instead of wasting more time trying to boost my stats in order to become more competitive for MD schools, I would just go for a DO degree and start my journey. However, as I read more about how DOs are discriminated against by some PDs in ACGME competitive specialties, I start to question whether I should take more time to try to gain an acceptance to MD schools. I am only a premed; I don't know whether I will be attracted to the highly competitive fields when I go through medical school, and I don't want my degree to restrict me from going where I want to go. I know that DO schools don't restrict you, but the PDs who have the bias will. With the merger (or the hostile takeover), I am afraid that specializing will become that much more difficult for DOs.

I have nothing against primary care; in fact, I highly considered it for my career. But I also don't really want to be restricted in terms of what specialties I could get into...



I did apply to MD schools but I wasn't really realistic about where I applied to...

Is there really anything you can do to seriously improve your MD chances? It will be hard to get much better on the MCAT. You don't have time to retake classes before this coming cycle. So you'd be applying with basically the same stats. Right now as it has been repeatedly stated you are on the low side for MD even if you applied to less competitive med schools.

At this point you've been discussing this to death, so have you made a decision?
 
My two acceptances were Midwestern and one of the Touros. When I was applying for medical schools, all I wanted is to become a physician without wasting too much time given my low stats. I figured that instead of wasting more time trying to boost my stats in order to become more competitive for MD schools, I would just go for a DO degree and start my journey. However, as I read more about how DOs are discriminated against by some PDs in ACGME competitive specialties, I start to question whether I should take more time to try to gain an acceptance to MD schools. I am only a premed; I don't know whether I will be attracted to the highly competitive fields when I go through medical school, and I don't want my degree to restrict me from going where I want to go. I know that DO schools don't restrict you, but the PDs who have the bias will. With the merger (or the hostile takeover), I am afraid that specializing will become that much more difficult for DOs.

I have nothing against primary care; in fact, I highly considered it for my career. But I also don't really want to be restricted in terms of what specialties I could get into...



I did apply to MD schools but I wasn't really realistic about where I applied to...

Look, yeah you probably should have used your first cycle to apply MD only, but you didn't and applied DO too. As a CA applicant your stats are too low for MD without something I'm your ECs to counterbalance them. That is just the harsh fact that CA applicants have to live with fair or not. You need to understand that if you turn down these DO acceptances you will most likely never, ever, have the chance to use DO as a back up again. With your app that is a HUGE gamble. It honestly comes down to whether of not you really want to be a physician. I'm going to say the exact same thing I said before, yes as a DO you won't be doing ortho at Harvard, but even if you somehow get into an MD school you most likely won't be doing that anyway.

DO I'm no way forces you to do PC if you don't want to, if you are "forced" into FM that means that you sucked as a student, like bad. There are a number of DO friendly specialties, and even the super competative ones are there for the students who work their tails off to put together a stellar app. The merger isn't all the doom and gloom you read on these forums, it isn't all roses and daisys either but it isn't going to be this apocalyptic event.

Why is it that people assume that if they were to go to an MD school they would just waltz into that NS, ENT, Derm, ortho residency? These specialties are competative for a reason. Many of the MD students struggle to be competative for them.
 
Right, I just dont agree with the concept that the only thing that can hold a DO student back is themselves. There are a significant amount of programs that dont even look at DO apps. That doesnt mean going DO is a bad idea, but one should know the things that are often glossed over on this forum.

Granted, I haven't really spent much time in pre-osteo over the past 1-2 yrs, but I don't remember DO limitations ever really being glossed over. Everyone knows US MDs match better. When I applied, I had absolutely no sense that going DO would mean I would have the same opportunities as a US MD. I knew that as far as residency opportunities went: US MD>DO>Carib MD, so I applied to all 3, got interviews from all 3, waitlisted at MD and in at DO and Carib. Most people in my classes had the same idea as well.

Maybe things have changed, but given how much more a couple people are posting on here, my guess is that if anything the sentiment is going the other way.

...This is certainly not true for IM and peds matches at AOA programs. If you look at the medicine specialty match stats the absolute number of DOs is quite small and the majority are in subspecialties that are not competitive (because they don't make much more, and sometimes make less than general medicine): endocrine, ID, nephro

The point was that they aren't all doing PC. The fact that they specialized in less competitive specialties doesn't really matter as far as that poster's point goes. Does it say something else about the competitiveness of DOs in academic medicine, probably, but says nothing about the "DOs only do PC" mantra.

My two acceptances were Midwestern and one of the Touros. When I was applying for medical schools, all I wanted is to become a physician without wasting too much time given my low stats. I figured that instead of wasting more time trying to boost my stats in order to become more competitive for MD schools, I would just go for a DO degree and start my journey. However, as I read more about how DOs are discriminated against by some PDs in ACGME competitive specialties, I start to question whether I should take more time to try to gain an acceptance to MD schools. I am only a premed; I don't know whether I will be attracted to the highly competitive fields when I go through medical school, and I don't want my degree to restrict me from going where I want to go. I know that DO schools don't restrict you, but the PDs who have the bias will. With the merger (or the hostile takeover), I am afraid that specializing will become that much more difficult for DOs.

I have nothing against primary care; in fact, I highly considered it for my career. But I also don't really want to be restricted in terms of what specialties I could get into...

I did apply to MD schools but I wasn't really realistic about where I applied to...

Chances are you will not get in if you reapply next year, because the biggest part of your app that you would need to fix would be your GPA, and that's not going to happen in a semester. You would also have to retake the MCAT, and that's risky, because you'd have to do better with the new format.

In any case, you'd be delayed at least 2 yrs. That honestly might be enough to tell DO schools, you really weren't ready then to start med school because of personal matters, so I wouldn't worry about how bad it would look if you declined an acceptance, that said, I wouldn't expect to get into those same schools again. Only you can really decide if that's worth a chance at getting in to med school.

In all likelihood, you're probably going to be more limited by your own stats for Ortho than you would by the DO vs low-tier MD school (that will certainly limit you, but chances are its unlikely you'll even be in the position for it to limit you). Unless you're well into the upper quartile/quintile, both in terms of rank and Step scores - remember you're competing against people with essentially the same intelligence and drive as you, chances are you will have a tough time getting Ortho regardless. Obviously going MD will give you some moderate amount of an advantage, but if you don't have the stats (and 75-80% of students won't) it really won't matter.

PM&R will literally not matter at all whether you go DO or MD. IM is really where your concern will be. If your goal is academic medicine or a competitive subspecialty (e.g. Cards or GI), you will need to go to a mid-tier or higher university IM program, which will actually require you to have much better stats as a DO than as an MD, and you will be geographically limited. Again, its doable, but harder. An average MD will get looks at multiple solid mid-tier programs, whereas a DO with the same stats as that average MD might not.

Honestly, both ways are a risk, especially since you're thinking Ortho, and only you can decide, which risk is worth it.
 
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