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Nice! I was wondering if it would be updated soon. Thanks for the heads up. This is worthy of a bump. 🙂

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This link is still good... but think I spotted another mistake that isn't in here yet. In Chapter 25 for the treatment of Parkinson's, he says to "Avoid drugs that worsen parkinsonism" including "neuroleptics, antiemetics" (both dopamine receptor antagonists), "monoamine oxidase inhibitors" (?!?).

I looked into it a bit, and MAOis can actually be used to TREAT parkinsonism (as would be expected; MAOi --> increased dopamine), so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or this is another mistake.

(EDIT: Found one reference suggesting MAOI induced parkinsonism, but it's just a case report - and even it refers to MAOIs sometimes being helpful: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2418638/pdf/postmedj00097-0078.pdf)

Figured I'd bump this thread to so we can list mistakes we find in Goljan RR 3rd edition that aren't in his errata....
 
This link is still good... but think I spotted another mistake that isn't in here yet. In Chapter 25 for the treatment of Parkinson's, he says to "Avoid drugs that worsen parkinsonism" including "neuroleptics, antiemetics" (both dopamine receptor antagonists), "monoamine oxidase inhibitors" (?!?).

I looked into it a bit, and MAOis can actually be used to TREAT parkinsonism (as would be expected; MAOi --> increased dopamine), so I'm not sure if I'm missing something or this is another mistake.

(EDIT: Found one reference suggesting MAOI induced parkinsonism, but it's just a case report - and even it refers to MAOIs sometimes being helpful: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2418638/pdf/postmedj00097-0078.pdf)

Figured I'd bump this thread to so we can list mistakes we find in Goljan RR 3rd edition that aren't in his errata....

Agree on that one. Maybe he means specifically MAO such as tranylcypromine and phenelzine which act preferentially upon MAO-A, and not ones such as Selegeline which act on MAO-B.
 
Agree on that one. Maybe he means specifically MAO such as tranylcypromine and phenelzine which act preferentially upon MAO-A, and not ones such as Selegeline which act on MAO-B.

But don't both MAO-A and B break down dopamine? I thought the main advantage of a specific MAO-B inhibitor in Parkinson's is that you don't have the same food restrictions (e.g. no tyramine effect).
 
Agree on that one. Maybe he means specifically MAO such as tranylcypromine and phenelzine which act preferentially upon MAO-A, and not ones such as Selegeline which act on MAO-B.
PSST, those are both non-specific MAO inhibitors (tranylcypromine and phenelzine)

But, I agree, MAOIs should lead to increased dopamine, which should lessen Parkinsonian symptoms. Maybe he meant AChE inhibitors? In Parkinson's, reduced Dopamine leads to increased Ach release, and I thought that a lot of the actual symptoms were mediated by the increased Ach.
 
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MAO-B preferibly metabolizes dopamine, therefore, agents such as selegiline and rasgiline which are MAO-B selective are used to treat Parkinsons. I think the real key is not to give L-dopa and an MAO-A selective or nonselective inhibitor concurrently because it can cause a hypertensive crisis.
 
PSST, those are both non-specific MAO inhibitors (tranylcypromine and phenelzine)

But, I agree, MAOIs should lead to increased dopamine, which should lessen Parkinsonian symptoms. Maybe he meant AChE inhibitors? In Parkinson's, reduced Dopamine leads to increased Ach release, and I thought that a lot of the actual symptoms were mediated by the increased Ach.

Dopaminergic neurons from the SNc preferentially inhibit striatal neurons of the indirect pathway in the basal ganglia. When you lose those neurons, ACh secreting interneurons in the striatum cause excitation the same striatal neurons. As a result, the indirect pathway overrides the direct pathway and causes net inhibition of the thalamus and hypokinesis (Parkonsinism). Sorry, have a big neuro exam coming up. Gotta love Dr. Hal Blumenfeld.
 
I know Wikipedia is hardly the best source, but I'm a bit too lazy to look any further into this...

"MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability. There are two isoforms of monoamine oxidase, MAO-A and MAO-B. MAO-A preferentially deaminates serotonin, melatonin, epinephrine and norepinephrine. MAO-B preferentially deaminates phenylethylamine and trace amines. Dopamine is equally deaminated by both types. Many formulations have forms of fluoride attached to assist in permeating the blood-brain barrier, which is suspected as a factor in pineal gland effects."
 
I know Wikipedia is hardly the best source, but I'm a bit too lazy to look any further into this...

"MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability. There are two isoforms of monoamine oxidase, MAO-A and MAO-B. MAO-A preferentially deaminates serotonin, melatonin, epinephrine and norepinephrine. MAO-B preferentially deaminates phenylethylamine and trace amines. Dopamine is equally deaminated by both types. Many formulations have forms of fluoride attached to assist in permeating the blood-brain barrier, which is suspected as a factor in pineal gland effects."

Ha ha, that's funny because if you go to the wiki article on MAO-B it says that it preferentially metabolizes dopamine. Maybe in reality that effect is modest but there's more MAO-B in the CNS? Wikipedia is a fine source if you check the references. My sources are medessentials (Kaplan), Blumenfeld and BRS Pharm.
 
I know Wikipedia is hardly the best source, but I'm a bit too lazy to look any further into this...

"MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability. There are two isoforms of monoamine oxidase, MAO-A and MAO-B. MAO-A preferentially deaminates serotonin, melatonin, epinephrine and norepinephrine. MAO-B preferentially deaminates phenylethylamine and trace amines. Dopamine is equally deaminated by both types. Many formulations have forms of fluoride attached to assist in permeating the blood-brain barrier, which is suspected as a factor in pineal gland effects."

Ha ha, that's funny because if you go to the wiki article on MAO-B it says that it preferentially metabolizes dopamine. Maybe in reality that effect is modest but there's more MAO-B in the CNS? Wikipedia is a fine source if you check the references. My sources are medessentials (Kaplan), Blumenfeld and BRS Pharm.
 
Ha ha, that's funny because if you go to the wiki article on MAO-B it says that it preferentially metabolizes dopamine. Maybe in reality that effect is modest but there's more MAO-B in the CNS? Wikipedia is a fine source if you check the references. My sources are medessentials (Kaplan), Blumenfeld and BRS Pharm.

I'll see your review books and raise you a PubMed review article (didn't cherry pick, I swear - most recent review article for this search "monoamine oxidase a[ti], dopamine")...

Neurotoxicology. 2004 Jan;25(1-2):243-50.
Therapeutic applications of selective and non-selective inhibitors of monoamine oxidase A and B that do not cause significant tyramine potentiation.

The major side effect with the use of first generation of non selective monoamine oxidase (MAO) inhibitors as neuropsychiatric drugs was what became known as the "cheese reaction". Namely, potentiation of sympathomimetic activity of ingested tyramine present in cheese and other food stuff, resulting from its ability to release noradrenaline, when prevented from metabolism by MAO. The identification of two forms of MAO, termed types A and B and their selective irreversible inhibitors resolved some of this problems. However irreversible MAO-A inhibitors continue to induce a cheese reaction, whereas MAO-B inhibitors at their selective dosage did not and led to introduction of L-deprenyl (selegiline) as an anti-Parkinson drug, since dopamine is equally well metabolized by both enzyme forms. The cheese reaction is a consequence of inhibition of MAO-A, the enzyme responsible for metabolism of noradrenaline and serotonin, located in peripheral adrenergic neurons. The consequence of these findings were the development of reversible MAO-A inhibitors (RIMA), moclobemide and brofaromin, as antidepressants and possible anti-Parkinson activity, with limited tyramine potentiation, since the amine can displace the inhibitor from its binding site on the enzyme. It has always been deemed a greater pharmacological advantage to inhibit both forms of the enzymes to get the full functional activities of the amine neurotransmitters, and without inducing a "cheese reaction". This was not possible until recently, with the development of the novel cholinesterase-brain selective MAO-AB inhibitor, TV3326 (N-propargyl-(3R)-aminoidnan-5-yl-ethyl methylcarbamate hemitartiate), a carbamate derivative of the irreversible MAO-B inhibitor anti-Parkinson drug, rasagiline. This drug is a brain selective MAO-A and B inhibitor, with little inhibition of liver and small intestine enzymes. Pharmacologically it has limited tyramine potentiation, very similar to moclobemide and being a MAO-AB inhibitor it has the antidepressant, anti-Parkinson and anti-Alzheimer activities in the respective models used to develop such drugs.

Wikipedia wins once again. Or we could go with the Conservapedia explanation: "God says so..."
 
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I'll see your review books and raise you a PubMed review article (didn't cherry pick, I swear - most recent review article for this search "monoamine oxidase a[ti], dopamine")...

Neurotoxicology. 2004 Jan;25(1-2):243-50.
Therapeutic applications of selective and non-selective inhibitors of monoamine oxidase A and B that do not cause significant tyramine potentiation.



Wikipedia wins once again. Or we could go with the Conservapedia explanation: "God says so..."

I see your neurotoxicology and raise you:

Neurology
Issue: Volume 72(15), 14 April 2009, pp 1352-1357
MAO-B inhibitor know-how: Back to the pharm

"What do we know about the effectiveness of MAO-B inhibitors as symptomatic therapy for PD? In the brain, MAO-B is the major enzymatic step for converting dopamine to its inactive catabolites, 3,4-dihydroxyphenylacetic acid and homovanillic acid (HVA). Inhibition of MAO-B ******s the otherwise rapid turnover of striatal dopamine,11 resulting in accumulation of this neurotransmitter. For a patient with PD, blocking the catabolism of endogenous dopamine provides symptomatic relief through enhanced neurotransmission."

I have to admit, I did cherry pick this article but I think this proves the point. I don't disagree with you; theoretically you could treat symptomatic PD with MAO-A inhibitors, but in terms of efficacy MAO-B is better (in terms of the tyramine effect and unwanted side effects).
 
PSST, those are both non-specific MAO inhibitors (tranylcypromine and phenelzine)

But, I agree, MAOIs should lead to increased dopamine, which should lessen Parkinsonian symptoms. Maybe he meant AChE inhibitors? In Parkinson's, reduced Dopamine leads to increased Ach release, and I thought that a lot of the actual symptoms were mediated by the increased Ach.

Yeah I know that. I am just trying to rationalize the reason here, there is a slightly higher specificity for MAO-A, but I meant relative to selegeline etc (poor wording.).. I don't know if this matters at all really though.
 
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