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Good G'Chem Question
Started by dat_student
dat_student said:Balance the following rxn (show your steps):
KMnO4 + NH3 -> KNO3 + MnO2 + KOH + H2O
I know, I know,...It's an easy question but try to see if you can balance this rxn in 54 seconds (100 sci. questions, 90 minutes: 54 seconds per question).
Before everyone freaks out...there are PLENTY of easy questions on the DAT so you have more than 54 seconds for a question like this. 😉 Of course, you only have 38 seconds in DAT Achiever by the time you get to this question. 🙂 It's either dat achiever or top score, right dat_student?
mochafreak said:...It's either dat achiever or top score, right dat_student?
wrong...
ok, let's do this: Can anyone balance that rxn in 540 seconds (i.e. 9 minutes)?
mocha: see my other post right above this post
mocha: see my other post right above this post
dat_student said:ok, let's do this: Can anyone balance that rxn in 540 seconds (i.e. 9 minutes)?
mocha: see my other post right above this post
I did see the other post...I read them from top to bottom.I tried for about 5 minutes and gave up. I'm just resigned to failure.
Thanks mocha. 😉 Plz, see my other post right below this post. 😉
How about 5400 seconds (i.e. 90 minutes (i.e. 1 hour 30 minutes))? Anyone?
I think if it is under acidic environment, it would be:dat_student said:Balance the following rxn (show your steps):
KMnO4 + NH3 -> KNO3 + MnO2 + KOH + H2O
I know, I know,...It's an easy question but try to see if you can balance this rxn in 54 seconds (100 sci. questions, 90 minutes: 54 seconds per question).
2KMnO4 + NH3 + 2H+ + 2e- =========> KNO3 + MnO2 + KOH + 2H20
Richnator said:I think if it is under acidic environment, it would be:
2KMnO4 + NH3 + 2H+ + 2e- =========> KNO3 + MnO2 + KOH + 2H20
You should never end up having electrons in your balanced rxn. 😉
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dat_student said:You should never end up having electrons in your balanced rxn. 😉
U still didn't provide the answer for "Funny Math Question" so i bet this is also one of those question that has no answer, or doesn't even require a thought of more than 2 sec to get the answer, right?
dat_student said:You should never end up having electrons in your balanced rxn. 😉
What about nuclear reactions with beta particles? I thought those have to have electrons in them.
Ahh, yah. I realized my mistake. Forgot to perform the most crucial part. Split the reaction into the oxidation and reduction components.dat_student said:You should never end up having electrons in your balanced rxn. 😉
Flipper405 said:What about nuclear reactions with beta particles? I thought those have to have electrons in them.
not necessarily, gamma-decay, positron decay, alpha decay ddon't have electrons in them.
dat_student said:not necessarily, gamma-decay, positron decay, alpha decay ddon't have electrons in them.
Ok, so some don't, but some do?
Flipper405 said:Ok, so some don't, but some do?
Flipper~ remember how dat_student made us to think of FUNNY QUESTION and never gave us the answer? this is the exact same thing~
joonkimdds said:Flipper~ remember how dat_student made us to think of FUNNY QUESTION and never gave us the answer? this is the exact same thing~
I just bumped that thread up again. 🙂 But yes, that's what I'm expecting. Maybe it'll just encourage me to figure it out for myself.
Flipper405 said:I just bumped that thread up again. 🙂 But yes, that's what I'm expecting. Maybe it'll just encourage me to figure it out for myself.
I thought u gave up on that Funny Question even before I did. 🙂
how about I make a new funny question like....
if u fart under the water...what chemical reaction happens?
answer = H2O + fart oxygen = H2OOOOOOOOO....depends on how long u fart 🙂
joonkimdds said:I thought u gave up on that Funny Question even before I did. 🙂
how about I make a new funny question like....
if u fart under the water...what chemical reaction happens?
answer = H2O + fart oxygen = H2OOOOOOOOO....depends on how long u fart 🙂
😱
I wouldn't go telling everyone that.

Ok, I split the reaction into its oxidation and reduction components.dat_student said:You should never end up having electrons in your balanced rxn. 😉
Reduction:
MnO4- + 4H+ + 3e- ===> MnO2 + 2H20
Oxidation:
NH3+ 3H20 ===> NO3- + 9H+ + 8e-
I eliminated the K+ cation because it is a specator ion. I then used the least common mutliple of both 3 and 8, which is 24. Therefore, I multiplied the reduction part by 8 and the oxidation part by 3.
Reduction:
8MnO4- + 32H+ + 24e- ===> 8MnO2 + 16H20
Oxidation:
3NH3+ 9H20 ===> 3NO3- + 27H+ + 24e-
Adding the two reduction and oxidation parts together, I cancel out the electrions and get:
In Acidic environment:
8MnO4- + 32H+ + 3NH3 + 9H20 ===> 8MnO2 + 16H20 + 3NO3- + 27H+
Since the top equation had OH-: I must add 32 OH- to both sides to cancel out the H+
Balanced Reaction:
8MnO4- + 3NH3 + 14H20 ====> 8MnO2 +16H20 + 3NO3- + 5OH-
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I can believe I typed this whole entry up and it didnt post it. Anyway, to make it short.dat_student said:Balance the following rxn (show your steps):
KMnO4 + NH3 -> KNO3 + MnO2 + KOH + H2O
I know, I know,...It's an easy question but try to see if you can balance this rxn in 54 seconds (100 sci. questions, 90 minutes: 54 seconds per question).
This is the balanced rxn.
8MnO4- + 3NH3 +14H20 ====> 8MnO2 + 16H20 + 3NO3- + 5OH-
I initially did it as if it was a acid. Then added 27OH- to both sides and canceled the H20 to get this final equation. I also eliminted K+ because they were spectator Ions.
Richnator said:Ok, I split the reaction into its oxidation and reduction components.
Reduction:
MnO4- + 4H+ + 3e- ===> MnO2 + 2H20
Oxidation:
NH3+ 3H20 ===> NO3- + 9H+ + 8e-
I eliminated the K+ cation because it is a specator ion. I then used the least common mutliple of both 3 and 8, which is 24. Therefore, I multiplied the reduction part by 8 and the oxidation part by 3.
Reduction:
8MnO4- + 32H+ + 24e- ===> 8MnO2 + 16H20
Oxidation:
3NH3+ 9H20 ===> 3NO3- + 27H+ + 24e-
Adding the two reduction and oxidation parts together, I cancel out the electrions and get:
In Acidic environment:
8MnO4- + 32H+ + 3NH3 + 9H20 ===> 8MnO2 + 16H20 + 3NO3- + 27H+
Since the top equation had OH-: I must add 32 OH- to both sides to cancel out the H+
Balanced Reaction:
8MnO4- + 3NH3 + 14H20 ====> 8MnO2 +16H20 + 3NO3- + 5OH-
Good work.
Thanks, tookme 10 mins to do the problem and then type it up. I didn't want to leave that question unanswered. I also doubt they would give that in the DAT. Reason being it takes too much time to do.Flipper405 said:Good work.
Richnator said:I can believe I typed this whole entry up and it didnt post it. Anyway, to make it short.
This is the balanced rxn.
8MnO4- + 3NH3 +14H20 ====> 8MnO2 + 16H20 + 3NO3- + 5OH-
I initially did it as if it was a acid. Then added 27OH- to both sides and canceled the H20 to get this final equation. I also eliminted K+ because they were spectator Ions.
not right. you should have the Ks in the final balanced rxn. This question has a solution 😉
Richnator said:Aah, shoot. Yup, forgot to cancel out the H20's on both sides.
That's the right answer.
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