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Good Night Float Programs?
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Honestly the best way to check is to look at the program website. They will either say up front they have a night float or mention what the call schedule is like. If they don't say up front check the curriculum section and see if any of the rotations are night float rotations. This is not a common trend in the programs I researched but maybe about 10-20% of programs had it implemented.
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Can you think of the names of any of those programs? thanks!
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Isn't it a bit premature for Pre-medical students to start thinking about which programs have nightfloat vs not?
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.... yes.... but I'm applying to residency right now 😎
Plus I never believe the "Status" dates... I think mine said pre-med until sometime near the end of third year. Update, people, or they won't let you graduate.
Plus I never believe the "Status" dates... I think mine said pre-med until sometime near the end of third year. Update, people, or they won't let you graduate.
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Thanks for the heads up...you crack me up 
I'll update it when on night float someday.
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I think a lot of programs are still in a state of flux regarding switching to nightfloat. Perhaps when people start actually interviewing this year, they will post feedback regarding NF status for particular programs.
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Barrow BNI has a good night float system and is an excellent program. It's had night float for >3 years.
Currently it runs like this:
PGY2 (4 separate weeks, the 1st week doubled up with a senior)
PGY3 (3 separate weeks)
PGY4 (2 separate weeks, the 1st week doubled up with a junior)
The weeks are not done back to back. It's a 7 days straight system Fri-Fri, so the weekend nights are covered by the nightfloat resident. i.e. if you're not on night float you don't do overnight call on adult neurology.
Night float covers one busy hospital which allows for this system to work. ER consults (including strokes), admits (ER & transfers), inpatient consults, crosscover (patients already admitted to neuro).
Some nights are busy, 12 hrs work straight (no rest & you still hand off patients in the morning), others are not (a few hours of interrupted downtime/sleep). My guess is Average 6-8 patients seen a night (fewest 4, most 13). Attendings are available by phone. The 1st night float week as a PGY2, a senior is in house to help see patients/teach/supervise.
Personally, having worked both night float & overnight systems, night float is much better overall. Especially for busier departments. But it depends on the setup.
If you wanna know more about Barrow ask or PM me. It'll be interesting to hear how other people do it.
Currently it runs like this:
PGY2 (4 separate weeks, the 1st week doubled up with a senior)
PGY3 (3 separate weeks)
PGY4 (2 separate weeks, the 1st week doubled up with a junior)
The weeks are not done back to back. It's a 7 days straight system Fri-Fri, so the weekend nights are covered by the nightfloat resident. i.e. if you're not on night float you don't do overnight call on adult neurology.
Night float covers one busy hospital which allows for this system to work. ER consults (including strokes), admits (ER & transfers), inpatient consults, crosscover (patients already admitted to neuro).
Some nights are busy, 12 hrs work straight (no rest & you still hand off patients in the morning), others are not (a few hours of interrupted downtime/sleep). My guess is Average 6-8 patients seen a night (fewest 4, most 13). Attendings are available by phone. The 1st night float week as a PGY2, a senior is in house to help see patients/teach/supervise.
Personally, having worked both night float & overnight systems, night float is much better overall. Especially for busier departments. But it depends on the setup.
If you wanna know more about Barrow ask or PM me. It'll be interesting to hear how other people do it.
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I've been to a few interviews and the whole night float thing has been coming up a lot- some programs don't think they'll be able to make new residency work hour requirements without night float and some smaller programs want to do it but can't b/c of numbers.
Ask during your interviews basically- there are going to be a few programs changing up their residents' schedules to accommodate them. I can at least say Indiana isn't going to one because they're too small but most of the feeder transitional years in Indianapolis are going night float to make work hour requirements.
Ask during your interviews basically- there are going to be a few programs changing up their residents' schedules to accommodate them. I can at least say Indiana isn't going to one because they're too small but most of the feeder transitional years in Indianapolis are going night float to make work hour requirements.
