good out of state public schools to apply to?

[bullishMD]

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what are some good out of state public schools to apply to?

 

[AppleseedCast]

what state are you from?

 

[FenderHM]

suny downstate

 

[DocOB]

I would say MSU but we don't want no stinkin' Buckeyes. J/k. But seriously though.

 

[postbacker]

I never quite "get" this question because once you start looking OOS, publics tend to cost just as much as privates, and in most cases the publics have varying degrees of favoritism for in-staters making some publics much more competitive than privates...

 

[kypdurron5]

I never quite "get" this question because once you start looking OOS, publics tend to cost just as much as privates, and in most cases the publics have varying degrees of favoritism for in-staters making some publics much more competitive than privates...

Right, but you can't assume you'll get into a private school, so the goal is to apply to those OOS publics that are most receptive to OOS applicants. It's a valid question (albeit one I've seen posted about 10 times in the last 72 hours).

 

[postbacker]

Right, but you can't assume you'll get into a private school, so the goal is to apply to those OOS publics that are most receptive to OOS applicants. It's a valid question (albeit one I've seen posted about 10 times in the last 72 hours).

My point is that once you starting looking OOS, why focus on just the publics? It makes no sense...they don't cost any less, and they can be harder to get into than the privates...my point: when you look OOS, you need to look just as closely at the privates as the publics...

 

[kypdurron5]

My point is that once you starting looking OOS, why focus on just the publics? It makes no sense...they don't cost any less, and they can be harder to get into than the privates...my point: when you look OOS, you need to look just as closely at the privates as the publics...

Ok, I see what you mean. I was making the assumption that the OP was like me...and is already well versed on private schools and now just needs to know which OOS public schools to aim for.

 

[postbacker]

Ok, I see what you mean. I was making the assumption that the OP was like me...and is already well versed on private schools and now just needs to know which OOS public schools to aim for.

Well, in all fairness to us, the OP did not exactly do a "bang up" job with his question...like telling us which state he is from (kinda important)...so I assumed the OP doesn't know anything about this stuff in crafting my response...

 

[Patel1268]

Well, in all fairness to us, the OP did not exactly do a "bang up" job with his question...like telling us which state he is from (kinda important)...so I assumed the OP doesn't know anything about this stuff in crafting my response...

I think its fair to assume he's from ohio

 

[ryandote]

I think its fair to assume he's from ohio

Or loves the buckeyes. (although you just may have to be from Ohio to choke that down)

 

[notdeadyet]

Well, in all fairness to us, the OP did not exactly do a "bang up" job with his question...like telling us which state he is from (kinda important)...so I assumed the OP doesn't know anything about this stuff in crafting my response...

I think it's safe to say that the OP is clued in to the fact that (suprise!) his home state is a good bet. He's probably looking for schools that have a good track record of accepting OOS students.

People around here tend to obsess as to where students are from when applying OOS, which I think is largely nonsense. I've seen a whole bunch of posts about where Californians are welcome.

If you are not a state resident, most states will treat you the same as folks from any other state. There are some exceptions of reciprocity and preference for folks with states without medical schools.

His post is fine. The only reason I'm not plugging out a list is that there are dozens of threads on SDN that the OP can search and find that will give him a big list of OOS-friendly schools.

 

[trichomoniasis]

If you are not a state resident, most states will treat you the same as folks from any other state unless you're from California or New York

fixed. seriously, if you're going to be making sweeping generalizations about every med school in the country, you might as well keep with popular opinion.

The fact of the matter is that applicants are all more or less the same save for their GPAs, MCAT scores, and states of residency. Those are the only objective measures schools have, and they use them. there are just SO MANY applicants from CA and NY, why would a school bother with a 3.4/30 when they can get 3.6/33s that aren't getting love from their state schools?

CA applicants are like sperm, that's the best simile I got

 

[notdeadyet]

The fact of the matter is that applicants are all more or less the same save for their GPAs, MCAT scores, and states of residency. Those are the only objective measures schools have, and they use them.

Disagree. This is the California myth that gets bandied about so much on SDN. Like the folks talking about how the vast majority of Californians have to leave the state to attend medical school. The numbers don't back it up.

Schools distinguish between in-state applicants and out-of-state applicants. Schools that are open to OOS students are open to Californians and New Yorkers. Many non-CA-schools have a huge percentage of Californians attending. Schools do not use state of residence as an admission criteria other than IS/OOS.

Californians have a tought time of it with their public med schools. But there's no great conspiracy keeping them out of any OOS schools that are open to OOS students.

 

[FenderHM]

why dont you guys just actually recommend OOS friendly state schools instead of criticizing the OP and each other

The New York publics are pretty open as competitive in-staters wind up in places like Columbia, Cornell, Sinai, NYU, and Einstein

 

[trichomoniasis]

Schools do not use state of residence as an admission criteria other than IS/OOS.

so you're on the admissions committee at every medical school in the country? Does that pay well?

 

[notdeadyet]

so you're on the admissions committee at every medical school in the country?

No, but I worked with a couple of advisors, one of whom was an adcom for a top medical school. She indicated that other than the reciprocity I mentioned above, schools do not have a preference for students coming from one state instead of another. There is no reason to.

 

[notdeadyet]

why dont you guys just actually recommend OOS friendly state schools instead of criticizing the OP and each other

I'd still recommend searching. We can come up with an ad hoc list or just pull up an existing one that was whittled down to something solid after weeks of discussion.

BrutusBuckeyeMD- Another way to do it is to look through MSAR to find schools with high OOS percentages. Beware of some schools that appear to accept a handful of OOS students. Often these are schools that only take OOS students for MD/PhD programs. Best of luck...

 

[chela47]

what are some good out of state public schools to apply to?

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