GPA during pharmacy school for a job after?

[ThomasY1234]

The title says it all. Does GPA really matter during pharmacy school if we want a simple retail job after?

Is it IMPERATIVE to have above a certain number if we want a job or will it be just a question for the first job or two if you have say a 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, or whatever.

Now I understand 2.0+, I'm just wondering about any "higher standards" for different settings.

Sorry I've done a lot of looking but I can only find information about getting into pharmacy school rather than after 🙂.

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[StriveForGlory]

I would say that unless you have a horrendous gpa it really wont matter much. Networking and work experience matter a lot more. If you have worked as an intern in one of the chain pharmacies I am pretty sure that it is standard to offer you at least some sort of position when you are graduating (assuming they have positions to give and you are in good standings with your DM).

 

[DYSF777]

The title says it all. Does GPA really matter during pharmacy school if we want a simple retail job after?

Is it IMPERATIVE to have above a certain number if we want a job or will it be just a question for the first job or two if you have say a 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, or whatever.

Now I understand 2.0+, I'm just wondering about any "higher standards" for different settings.

Sorry I've done a lot of looking but I can only find information about getting into pharmacy school rather than after 🙂.

Instead of worrying about the lowest possible GPA to secure a job in retail, how about you strive to be better than average for the sake of your patients. Just saying.

 

[crazybob]

Instead of worrying about the lowest possible GPA to secure a job in retail, how about you strive to be better than average for the sake of your patients. Just saying.

👍

 

[charfdorn]

The title says it all. Does GPA really matter during pharmacy school if we want a simple retail job after?

Is it IMPERATIVE to have above a certain number if we want a job or will it be just a question for the first job or two if you have say a 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, or whatever.

Now I understand 2.0+, I'm just wondering about any "higher standards" for different settings.

Sorry I've done a lot of looking but I can only find information about getting into pharmacy school rather than after 🙂.

For retail? No. They'll want to look at your management ability, communication skills, customer service experience, etc. But remember that your interests might change down the line, and it's worth it to at least try to do better if you can. Plus, if you have a 3.5 and then tank a semester, your 2.0 is still safe. If you have a 2.0 and fail one class, suddenly you're not graduating.

 

[owlegrad]

Instead of worrying about the lowest possible GPA to secure a job in retail, how about you strive to be better than average for the sake of your patients. Just saying.

Yes - the higher the grade, the better the pharmacist. Oh wait....

 

[owlegrad]

For retail? No. They'll want to look at your management ability, communication skills, customer service experience, etc. But remember that your interests might change down the line, and it's worth it to at least try to do better if you can. Plus, if you have a 3.5 and then tank a semester, your 2.0 is still safe. If you have a 2.0 and fail one class, suddenly you're not graduating.

Good advice. 👍

 

[DYSF777]

Yes - the higher the grade, the better the pharmacist. Oh wait....

You must have poor grades.

I only suggest the strong correlation between higher grades and a deeper understanding of the material being tested. The same material that will be used to treat your patients.

 

[crazybob]

You must have poor grades.

I only suggest the strong correlation between higher grades and a deeper understanding of the material being tested. The same material that will be used to treat your patients.

what if the higher grades correlated with less work experience?

people who work can develop leadership skills and confidence.

you don't take classes like leadership 101 or intro to building confidence when you're studying all the time.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

You must have poor grades.

I only suggest the strong correlation between higher grades and a deeper understanding of the material being tested. The same material that will be used to treat your patients.

Not really. Learning something in your second year means nothing if you can't retain it and use it in your fourth year. And most of the crap you learn, you don't retain. It's the people that take the time to deeply understand concepts rather than the stupid little factoids they test on that do well later on.

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And I've never in my life had someone that matters ask me what my GPA was. C equals PharmD has a bit of validity to it...until they start requiring residencies, anyway...

 

[owlegrad]

You must have poor grades.*

I only suggest the strong correlation between higher grades and a deeper understanding of the material being tested. The same material that will be used to treat your patients.**

*False, although I guess that is somewhat relative. I have a mix of Cs, Bs and just a couple of As. I got one D last year and am trying quite hard to make sure that doesn't happen again. I think my average was 2.5 last year, with just shows I put in 0.5 points too much effort (kidding!).

**You are mistaken. Better grades =/= to better treatment for patents. I don't mean to imply that understanding the material is not important or that higher grades are completely useless. I am only saying that higher grades do not lead to better patient outcomes. There is so much more to it than that. Can the 4.0 student look up treatment guidelines better than say a 2.5 student? No. Can the 4.0 student recommend a treatment protocol better than a 2.5? No.

I would go so far as to suggest that their are many 2.5 students who are superior to their 4.0 counterparts in terms of being able to communicate and play well with others. If a 4.0 can't communicate well with the patient or physician what good is their grade (for instance)? Communication, empathy, the list goes on and on. I would put grades at the very bottom of the list as to what makes a good pharmacists. Hell I would put good hygiene above grades. Grades are what you can cram in before a test, hardly indicative of how well you will practise, unless you plan on practising some kind of closed-book pharmacy where outside references are not allowed.

Even many of my professors have expressed thoughts along these lines. If you think high grades will make you a better pharmacist, hey go for it. You will not convince me however. Particularly if you put grades above getting experience. Experience>>Grades. Everything else a pharmacist needs>>Grades.

 

[owlegrad]

what if the higher grades correlated with less work experience?

people who work can develop leadership skills and confidence.

you don't take classes like leadership 101 or intro to building confidence when you're studying all the time.

I agree completely Bob. Well said.

On a side note, do you really think those types of classes would be helpful anyway? I am just curious what your thoughts are on them. I have always thought those classes were kinda....shady? To me it seems like the kind of stuff you have to learn in real life. I am not sure I believe you can learn to be a good leader by taking classes. Then again what do I know? Anyone who has had good experiences with those types of classes please share.

 

[crazybob]

I agree completely Bob. Well said.

On a side note, do you really think those types of classes would be helpful anyway? I am just curious what your thoughts are on them. I have always thought those classes were kinda....shady? To me it seems like the kind of stuff you have to learn in real life. I am not sure I believe you can learn to be a good leader by taking classes. Then again what do I know? Anyone who has had good experiences with those types of classes please share.

It's true that we run into a lot of stuff that we'll never use. But we learn all of this so that in case something rare comes up, we'll know what to do about it.

Sometimes in upper level classes, we build on earlier courses, and even though we don't use all of it, having been through these classes helps us understand and relate the new concepts to what we have learned already.

 

[DYSF777]

I suppose there is some validity to the argument that you are only as good as your ability to store the information for future retrieval.

My only point was that I find it offensive that some people will do the very least to just get by when we are dealing with other people's health.

By the way owlegrad I was only joking about the poor grades. I forget that tone is sometimes misunderstood when writing in a forum.

 

[Pharmacy Kid]

Why not get good grades AND have communication skills AND leadership skills?

 

[owlegrad]

I suppose there is some validity to the argument that you are only as good as your ability to store the information for future retrieval.

My only point was that I find it offensive that some people will do the very least to just get by when we are dealing with other people's health.

By the way owlegrad I was only joking about the poor grades. I forget that tone is sometimes misunderstood when writing in a forum.

Drat! I hate when I miss that someone is joking. Looking back I can see how that could have been meant in a joking sort of way. Oh well... I guess ignore my overly long reponse?

 

[SHC1984]

People with 4.0 GPA might be good pharmacists, they might not be good...we don't know.
People with 2.5 GPA will NOT be good pharmacists, that we know. It might come as a surprise to some, but YES, pharmacists actually have to know the material they are taught in school! Being a good leader is great, but if you don't know anything that really won't help you much.

To the OP...the job market is tight, there are more pharmacists than there are jobs available. So it's to everyone's best interest to strive for the best...best grades, best leadership positions, best research, etc...if you aren't the best you won't get a job when you graduate.

 

[owlegrad]

People with 4.0 GPA might be good pharmacists, they might not be good...we don't know.
People with 2.5 GPA will NOT be good pharmacists, that we know. It might come as a surprise to some, but YES, pharmacists actually have to know the material they are taught in school! Being a good leader is great, but if you don't know anything that really won't help you much.

To the OP...the job market is tight, there are more pharmacists than there are jobs available. So it's to everyone's best interest to strive for the best...best grades, best leadership positions, best research, etc...if you aren't the best you won't get a job when you graduate.

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I like you. I mean you are wrong about so many thing, but I really enjoy your posts. You just say whatever pops into your head, huh? It must be nice not having to be burdened with things like evedence when making an arguement. More pharmacists than jobs? I think that is true for something like 5% of the overall job market for pharacists? Something like 2 states have more supply than demand and even in those states it varies by region.

I would love to know where you are getting this from. Did I miss some landmark study that followed 2.5 GPA students throughout their career and found them to be inferior to 4.0 GPA students? Or you are simply talking out of your ass? I don't even have professors who believe this, I can't imagine what makes you believe this. Yes strive for the best, but don't obsess about grades.

Maybe we need a poll. How many people here believe grades accurately reflect knowledge level and more importantly ability to practise?

Edit: I just realized you said I won't be a good pharamcist! Them's fighten' words! 😉

 

[streetpreacher]

People with 4.0 GPA might be good pharmacists, they might not be good...we don't know.
People with 2.5 GPA will NOT be good pharmacists, that we know. It might come as a surprise to some, but YES, pharmacists actually have to know the material they are taught in school! Being a good leader is great, but if you don't know anything that really won't help you much.

To the OP...the job market is tight, there are more pharmacists than there are jobs available. So it's to everyone's best interest to strive for the best...best grades, best leadership positions, best research, etc...if you aren't the best you won't get a job when you graduate.

Hopefully you'll come back here in 5 years and realize how utterly ignorant this post was.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most of the things learned in pharmacy school are absolutely useless in the real world. Does that mean all of it is useless? Clearly no, but they have to fill in all the gaps of time with something, and that something... well... it just happens to be nothing but useless drivel.

But as said earlier, the best bet is to learn what you can learn in school, and hopefully you learn the useful things rather than the pKa of tetrahydroxyzoladonicpicocyclic acid, and then maybe you will get somewhere in life.

Good luck. 👍

 

[SHC1984]

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I like you. I mean you are wrong about so many thing, but I really enjoy your posts. You just say whatever pops into your head, huh? It must be nice not having to be burdened with things like evedence when making an arguement. More pharmacists than jobs? I think that is true for something like 5% of the overall job market for pharacists? Something like 2 states have more supply than demand and even in those states it varies by region.

I would love to know where you are getting this from. Did I miss some landmark study that followed 2.5 GPA students throughout their career and found them to be inferior to 4.0 GPA students? Or you are simply talking out of your ass? I don't even have professors who believe this, I can't imagine what makes you believe this. Yes strive for the best, but don't obsess about grades.

Maybe we need a poll. How many people here believe grades accurately reflect knowledge level and more importantly ability to practise?

Edit: I just realized you said I won't be a good pharamcist! Them's fighten' words! 😉

I did not say anything wrong. There are way more pharmacists in the job market than there are jobs, that's the reason why most people that graduated from my pharmacy school last year and this year had to move out of this city to find jobs. My preceptor told me he was going to ask his son to do pharmacy but since the job market is so bad for pharmacists he is now going to ask him to do dentistry. There are no more sign on bonues and there are more applicants per job positions. (I believe 20+ applicants for one job position on average) These things you already know so why even ask? What's your evidence of the shortage?

Secondly, I never say 4.0 students are better than 2.5 students. I never say 4.0 students will be good pharmacists. In fact I say we DO NOT KNOW if 4.0 students will be good pharmacists or not. That was actually my first sentence.

Do you agree that as a pharmacist you need knowledge of the material taught in school? If yes, then you agree with me.

Do you agree that if a person has actually master the material taught to him or her...then he or she should be able to get at least a 3.5 GPA? If yes, then you agree with me.

All I am saying is that 1) there are no longer a shortage, so you need more than a pulse to get a job. I think we all know that, but I am just saying. 2) as a good pharmacist you need knowledge of the material you learn in pharmacy school. I think that's another no brainer. 3) if you know the material you should at least be able to pull at 3.5 GPA. That is more subjective, but honestly if a person knows the material they should easily make A(s) or at least B+ in the class. That is all that I am saying. I HOPE/WISH there is a shortage of pharmacists, but I really doubt that is true. Would be nice though. 🙄

 

[All4MyDaughter]

People with 2.5 GPA will NOT be good pharmacists, that we know.

It must be awesome to be all knowing and see everything in black and white. OR... maybe it's not so cool to be naive about life and the world around us. I'm not sure which is the case here... Like others, I also find your posts entertaining.

I like you. I mean you are wrong about so many thing, but I really enjoy your posts. You just say whatever pops into your head, huh? It must be nice not having to be burdened with things like evedence...

I would love to know where you are getting this from. Did I miss some landmark study that followed 2.5 GPA students throughout their career and found them to be inferior to 4.0 GPA students? Or you are simply talking out of your ass...

Yeah. I think I'm in love with you. 😍

 

[owlegrad]

I did not say anything wrong. There are way more pharmacists in the job market than there are jobs, that's the reason why most people that graduated from my pharmacy school last year and this year had to move out of this city to find jobs. My preceptor told me he was going to ask his son to do pharmacy but since the job market is so bad for pharmacists he is now going to ask him to do dentistry. There are no more sign on bonues and there are more applicants per job positions. (I believe 20+ applicants for one job position on average) These things you already know so why even ask? What's your evidence of the shortage?

Secondly, I never say 4.0 students are better than 2.5 students. I never say 4.0 students will be good pharmacists. In fact I say we DO NOT KNOW if 4.0 students will be good pharmacists or not. That was actually my first sentence.

Do you agree that as a pharmacist you need knowledge of the material taught in school? If yes, then you agree with me.

Do you agree that if a person has actually master the material taught to him or her...then he or she should be able to get at least a 3.5 GPA? If yes, then you agree with me.

All I am saying is that 1) there are no longer a shortage, so you need more than a pulse to get a job. I think we all know that, but I am just saying. 2) as a good pharmacist you need knowledge of the material you learn in pharmacy school. I think that's another no brainer. 3) if you know the material you should at least be able to pull at 3.5 GPA. That is more subjective, but honestly if a person knows the material they should easily make A(s) or at least B+ in the class. That is all that I am saying. I HOPE/WISH there is a shortage of pharmacists, but I really doubt that is true. Would be nice though. 🙄

People have to move to find jobs?! That must mean there are more pharmacist than their are jobs! I don't even know what to say here. This is so misguided that it makes me dizzy to think about it. Just because your city (that has a COP!) cannot accommodate every graduate with a job does not mean that there are more pharmacists than jobs overall. There are not more pharmacists than jobs overall based on BLS statistics as well as the pharmacy manpower project. If you have ANY - ANY - objective source that say otherwise please share.

You say 2.5 cannot be good pharmacists but 4.0 students can be. Therefore a 4.0 student is better than a 2.5, no? I don't know how else to interpret that statement. "We don't know about 4.0 but we do know 2.5 will not be." How else can that be taken, except to mean that 4.0>2.5? You clearly state that only a student with a high grade can be a good pharmacist. I don't understand your objection. Yes it was your first sentence, indicating that high grade students are the only kind that might be good pharmacists. How else can I read this?

I don't agree that the students who understand the material the most get the best grades. Much more often it is more about who can cram in the most before the test, hardly indicative of understanding and no correlation to ability to practise. I haven't meet a practising pharmacist who believes grades are important. I doubt you have.

 

[crazybob]

People with 2.5 GPA will NOT be good pharmacists, that we know. It might come as a surprise to some, but YES, pharmacists actually have to know the material they are taught in school! Being a good leader is great, but if you don't know anything that really won't help you much.

If the person with 2.5 GPA has 4 years of pharmacy tech experience and 4 years of pharmacy intern experience, and graduated, will that graduate be a bad pharmacist? According to you, the person who has worked for 8 years will not be a good pharmacist.

Do you think that when people work, they don't learn anything about medications? Do they learn nothing about indications, dosage forms, common strengths, etc?

 

[All4MyDaughter]

I'm not sure what my GPA is. It's complicated because I've attended two different pharmacy schools. I'd say it's somewhere in the low to mid 3's though.

In my time in school I have found that it's fairly easy for me to get B's but sometimes the level of minute detail and BS that I need to memorize to get an A is not worth the effort. And at my age, the memorization just doesn't come as easily as it did 10 or 15 years ago.

Guess I'm gonna be a bad pharmacist. Oh nooooooes.... 😛

 

[owlegrad]

It must be awesome to be all knowing and see everything in black and white. OR... maybe it's not so cool to be naive about life and the world around us. I'm not sure which is the case here... Like others, I also find your posts entertaining.



Yeah. I think I'm in love with you. 😍

Hey if you are ever in FL look me up. 👍 😉

 

[spacecowgirl]

Why not get good grades AND have communication skills AND leadership skills?

Yeah, I want to know this as well. These threads turn into some either/or situation as though people with good grades must be socially inept or lack work experience and vice versa. They are not mutually exclusive.

For most jobs, I don't think GPA matters all that much, but ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, I can't see how it would hurt to strive for higher grades. 😕

 

[owlegrad]

Yeah, I want to know this as well. These threads turn into some either/or situation as though people with good grades must be socially inept or lack work experience and vice versa. They are not mutually exclusive.

For most jobs, I don't think GPA matters all that much, but ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, I can't see how it would hurt to strive for higher grades. 😕

Nothing wrong with trying to get high grades, but I wouldn't lose any sleep trying to get high grades. It's not worth the stress, imo. To each their own. I don't think anyone here is arguing against getting high grades, only their importance. Most people have time constrants; earning that 4.0 is not a good use of your time, imo. If you have ample time to work/study/have some kind of life - kudos. If you have to pick two out of three - I wouldn't pick commeting myself to 4.0.

I do object to people acting like high grades are all that's important while in pharmacy school. They are not. If you strive for high grades - more power to you. But I object to the thought that grades are what determines ability.

 

[charfdorn]

People with 4.0 GPA might be good pharmacists, they might not be good...we don't know.
People with 2.5 GPA will NOT be good pharmacists, that we know. It might come as a surprise to some, but YES, pharmacists actually have to know the material they are taught in school! Being a good leader is great, but if you don't know anything that really won't help you much.

To the OP...the job market is tight, there are more pharmacists than there are jobs available. So it's to everyone's best interest to strive for the best...best grades, best leadership positions, best research, etc...if you aren't the best you won't get a job when you graduate.

I can look up anything I forget from pharmacy school, and drugs that come out after I graduate will of course be new information that I won't have learned in school. But I can't learn leadership skills, communication skills, how to work in teams, and how to be an independent learner. That's what companies evaluate. The NAPLEX will let them know if you're a competent pharmacy. Your error rate once you're practicing will do the same. I'm not saying grades aren't important. Of course they are. Otherwise everything would be pass/fail. I just don't think employers look at that as a major determinant.

 

[CUninja]

Hey if you are ever in FL look me up. 👍 😉

Welcome to the SDN Dating Game... where ridiculous and baseless statements bring people together!!

(Obv. not referring to you two lovebirds...but these are the internets...where everything is taken literally.)

 

[owlegrad]

Welcome to the SDN Dating Game... where ridiculous and baseless statements bring people together!!

(Obv. not referring to you two lovebirds...but these are the internets...where everything is taken literally.)

If you know a better way to meet people than through this series of tubes called the internet, let me know.

 

[crazybob]

Welcome to the SDN Dating Game... where ridiculous and baseless statements bring people together!!

(Obv. not referring to you two lovebirds...but these are the internets...where everything is taken literally.)

If you know a better way to meet people than through this series of tubes called the internet, let me know.

maybe SDN and then FB. which can lead to all sorts of fun. especially if you find that you have mutual friends.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

SDN - Student Dating Network??

 

[StevePerry]

The title says it all. Does GPA really matter during pharmacy school if we want a simple retail job after?

Is it IMPERATIVE to have above a certain number if we want a job or will it be just a question for the first job or two if you have say a 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, or whatever.

Now I understand 2.0+, I'm just wondering about any "higher standards" for different settings.

Sorry I've done a lot of looking but I can only find information about getting into pharmacy school rather than after 🙂.

It is more important to be a good worker and likeable (aka not a douchebag), at least now anyways (before the aforementioned required residency on the horizon). If you project an aura of competency at the interview, rotation, etc. you'll be fine regardless of grades. Don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.

 

[ronkoshy]

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[crazybob]

why do we stereotyping kids with 4.0's as socially inept, lacking communication skills, etc.. ?

why do we assume they also have no work experience?

Do you know any pharmacy student who has a 4.0 and works and is popular at school?

 

[SpirivaSunrise]

Do you know any pharmacy student who has a 4.0 and works and is popular at school?

Sure, I did it. But popular? I got my PharmD @ a COP, not HS.

 

[owlegrad]

Do you know any pharmacy student who has a 4.0 and works and is popular at school?

I know two students that had a 4.0 in their first year. I don't know if they still have it or not, I only know they had it at one point. They are both popular enough, but they didn't work and I don't think they are particularly involved in any groups. I could be wrong. I don't know if they worked over summer break break or not.

I do think the amount of stress they subject themselves to is unhealthy, but to each their own. I know one wants to do a residency, the other I am not sure.

On a side note, it drives me crazy when classmates complain about test questions or want to argue over every point.

 

[owlegrad]

Sure, I did it. But popular? I got my PharmD @ a COP, not HS.

So you weren't popular then?

Nah, just kidding.

 

[crazybob]

On a side note, it drives me crazy when classmates complain about test questions or want to argue over every point.

People like that make me think they care about getting an A is more important than making sure they understand what they learn.

Sometimes those A students forget most of the stuff we have done the semester before. So when I talk about something we covered in a class, they say they don't remember anymore even though they got an A.

 

[The Fargoan]

My classmates and I play the "Who Would You Hire?" game where we name classmates we would and would not hire. Believe me when I tell you we're not basing our decisions on GPA. Often decisions are made based on ability to deal with others, work ethic, and could you talk to that classmate every day for the next year. I'll go ahead and assume that's how I will hire people when I'm actually in that position in the future.

 

[ronkoshy]

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[owlegrad]

i have a 3.9, work 40 hours a week, and party 3 nights every week in new york, every Thurs, Fri, Sat

stop stereotypin dude.. ignorance prevents you from seeing a lot of great things bro

Then you sir are amazing. I think <1% of students could pull this off. I don't mean to question your honor but I don't believe you. Work 40 hours a week, party three nights a week AND get phenominal grades? Sure and do you have any swamp land in AZ to sell me? You are exagerating. There aren't enough hours in a week to do what you describe. Or so I will keep telling myself to make me feel better about my own life...

 

[owlegrad]

People like that make me think they care about getting an A is more important than making sure they understand what they learn.

Sometimes those A students forget most of the stuff we have done the semester before. So when I talk about something we covered in a class, they say they don't remember anymore even though they got an A.

Students who care more about a grade than they do about learning?! Shirley you jest?

Only sometimes? You are being too fair. In my experience the people who get A's often cannot talk intelligently about a topic one week after the exam let alone a semester. They can cram it in but that's it. Of course their are exception and I am being unfair in my generalization, but I call it like I see it.

 

[SHC1984]

Sure, I did it. But popular? I got my PharmD @ a COP, not HS.

You graduated with a 4.0? That's great! 👍👍👍

 

[SHC1984]

Students who care more about a grade than they do about learning?! Shirley you jest?

Only sometimes? You are being too fair. In my experience the people who get A's often cannot talk intelligently about a topic one week after the exam let alone a semester. They can cram it in but that's it. Of course their are exception and I am being unfair in my generalization, but I call it like I see it.

I agree with your above post. I don't think it is even POSSIBLE for a pharmacy student to work 40 hours a week unless they skip all their classes. I have to be on campus at 10am everyday and on Fridays I have to be at my IPPE site at 9am...my classes end at 4pm or 5pm everyday...by the time I get home it's around 5pm or 6pm. That's EVERYDAY. So even if I WANTED to work 40 hours a week I cannot...unless I can magically somehow add more hours into a day! No pharmacy student can work 40 hours a week unless they skip all their classes. That person is a troll.

However, as a 4.0 student I don't cram at all. I study about 3 to 4 hours everyday so when exam time comes I am ready for it. The day or two before the exam I only review...I don't ever cram for anything. People that cram or wait till the last 2 seconds to study for the exam usually don't do very well. They are the ones that forget things. Can I recall every little detail that I learned? Most likely not, but I remember the overall picture of most of my classes.

 

[StevePerry]

Then you sir are amazing. I think <1% of students could pull this off. I don't mean to question your honor but I don't believe you. Work 40 hours a week, party three nights a week AND get phenominal grades? Sure and do you have any swamp land in AZ to sell me? You are exagerating. There aren't enough hours in a week to do what you describe. Or so I will keep telling myself to make me feel better about my own life...

Dude you really need to stop stereotyping like the man said. I know a guy that works 60 hours a week in Alaska, has a 4.0 at pharmacy school in Washington, and parties 4 nights a week in LA. Totally doable bro, especially on SDN where anything is possible.

 

[Style]

*False, although I guess that is somewhat relative. I have a mix of Cs, Bs and just a couple of As. I got one D last year and am trying quite hard to make sure that doesn't happen again. I think my average was 2.5 last year, with just shows I put in 0.5 points too much effort (kidding!).

Interesting. The pharmacy school that I graduated from a D would mean repeating the class and likely repeating the year for that class as it is only offered once per year. It seems that is not your case.

 

[owlegrad]

Interesting. The pharmacy school that I graduated from a D would mean repeating the class and likely repeating the year for that class as it is only offered once per year. It seems that is not your case.

To answer your inquiry a D does not necessarily mean repeating a class at my COP. It depends on your overall GPA and the number of "grades less than C". C- qualifies as grade less than C, which is annoying. Anyway the policy is GPA>2.0 and no more than 3 grades less than C over your four years. GPA<2.0 means you repeat the year, too many grades less than C means you repeat those classes (which sets you back a year, obviously).

 

[charfdorn]

On a side note, it drives me crazy when classmates complain about test questions or want to argue over every point.

If my class spent half the time and energy on studying for exams that they spend arguing test points, they wouldn't need to argue test points any more.

 

[tungsten87]

people who say GPA is unimportant have a bad GPA and those who say it is important have a good GPA. someone please rephrase this in a confucius-like manner.