# GPA Question

#### MichiganStudent93

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I just got verified yesterday after e-submitting on the 16th! However, the GPA is both with and without +\- so I was just curious which one do schools look at more closely? For me personally there's a small difference, but still figured I'd ask?

#### OrphanageCaretaker

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Depends on the school, if the difference is so minute that it is hardly recognizable, then there is no need to worry. Now if w/ +/- your GPA increased by .3, then there is a problem, but if it's ~.01-.03, then everything is fine

#### tooth knockn

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Depends on the school, if the difference is so minute that it is hardly recognizable, then there is no need to worry. Now if w/ +/- your GPA increased by .3, then there is a problem, but if it's ~.01-.03, then everything is fine

Says who?

.3 vs .01-.03 .... Makes a difference ?

#### hellofuturedentists

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Depends on the school, if the difference is so minute that it is hardly recognizable, then there is no need to worry. Now if w/ +/- your GPA increased by .3, then there is a problem, but if it's ~.01-.03, then everything is fine
Why would that be a problem? If your +/- GPA is higher, it means you got more +, which is good. If it's lower, it means you got more -'s.

#### predentalguy26

Why would that be a problem? If your +/- GPA is higher, it means you got more +, which is good. If it's lower, it means you got more -'s.
other way around

#### hellofuturedentists

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other way around
How? If you have a bunch of A+ and B+, they're calculated as normal A's and B's in your GPA without +/-. Unless I am understanding that wrong.
If you have all A+, your +/- GPA would be above 4.0 and your non +/- GPA would be 4.0. Is that not right?

#### OrphanageCaretaker

5+ Year Member
Says who?

.3 vs .01-.03 .... Makes a difference ?

3.3 vs 3.6

compared to

3.3 vs 3.33

.3 makes a larger difference between the them

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#### predentalguy26

How? If you have a bunch of A+ and B+, they're calculated as normal A's and B's in your GPA without +/-. Unless I am understanding that wrong.
If you have all A+, your +/- GPA would be above 4.0 and your non +/- GPA would be 4.0. Is that not right?
you are definitely right haha. i thought you were taking about non plus minus gpa.

hellofuturedentists

#### OrphanageCaretaker

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Why would that be a problem? If your +/- GPA is higher, it means you got more +, which is good. If it's lower, it means you got more -'s.
Well it's to balance applicants and the schools they came from, there are universities that give out A+'s which are 4.33 gpa when a majority of universities have the A/A-/B+/etc grading system, so students can receive a 99% in a class, one university will reward them with an A+ while the other university will give them an A. The +/- scale would take in account the minuses as well as the pluses, typically the two gpa's, +/- and the w/o +/- are very close in scale, so there isn't any major fluctuation unless an applicant literally only received (+) or (-) grades for every single class. If it's a mix of + and -, then it balances out to be around the same gpa as the w/o +/-

#### hellofuturedentists

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Well it's to balance applicants and the schools they came from, there are universities that give out A+'s which are 4.33 gpa when a majority of universities have the A/A-/B+/etc grading system, so students can receive a 99% in a class, one university will reward them with an A+ while the other university will give them an A. The +/- scale would take in account the minuses as well as the pluses, typically the two gpa's, +/- and the w/o +/- are very close in scale, so there isn't any major fluctuation unless an applicant literally only received (+) or (-) grades for every single class. If it's a mix of + and -, then it balances out to be around the same gpa as the w/o +/-
I totally understand the standardization, I just don't see how it'd be a bad thing to have a higher +/- GPA. Even if it's because of B+'s. But idk

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#### studentdental8

If you think about it A+ is really hard to get, as opposed to C- or D- usually, so +/- GPA should tend to be lower than without +/-

MichiganStudent93

#### studentdental8

Someone back in my days in org got 100 on the final and midterm when mean was 59 stdev 20, prof said he was the smartest he's taught in a decade and only gave him an A, not A+

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#### OSUkid

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Someone back in my days in org got 100 on the final and midterm when mean was 59 stdev 20, prof said he was the smartest he's taught in a decade and only gave him an A, not A+
Most schools dont have A+

#### Bucks783

Most schools dont have A+
Right! I got a 99 in ochem and a 100 in cell bio and got an A because my school doesnt give A+ ....it sucks other schools have A+ since they would help boost the science GPA

#### SableFire

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Right! I got a 99 in ochem and a 100 in cell bio and got an A because my school doesnt give A+ ....it sucks other schools have A+ since they would help boost the science GPA
I know the pain I would have had 5 A+'s this year if my school did that. But I don't think I've heard of schools around my school that have the A+ option

#### ajj70

Well it's to balance applicants and the schools they came from, there are universities that give out A+'s which are 4.33 gpa when a majority of universities have the A/A-/B+/etc grading system, so students can receive a 99% in a class, one university will reward them with an A+ while the other university will give them an A. The +/- scale would take in account the minuses as well as the pluses, typically the two gpa's, +/- and the w/o +/- are very close in scale, so there isn't any major fluctuation unless an applicant literally only received (+) or (-) grades for every single class. If it's a mix of + and -, then it balances out to be around the same gpa as the w/o +/-