GPAs from different schools

[LauraMac]

hey guys,

my first year of college i went to tri-state university (this little tiny crappy school in indiana). i had a 3.9. then i took some classes at a community college the summer after and had a 3.9. now i go to umich and currently have a 3.5 (hopefully it won't get any lower!!) the cumulative right now is about 3.7.

i guess what i want to know is will adcoms think it's bad that my gpa has dropped? or will they think it was good that i left the crappy school to go somewhere MUCH more challenging (this honestly is one of many reasons i decided to transfer)?

on the application will i have to list each school's GPA separately or just have a cumulative GPA including all schools?

i guess i just want to know how specific the information is that they get and what they will think about it.

thanks!
laura

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[DAL]

You'll have to list the grades you received at each school. You still have great grades, but I personally don't think it looks good that your grades have dropped since going to a better school. I have no clue what an ad comm. will think. Still, overall your GPA is high and just try your best to keep it that way. Good Luck!!!

 

[LauraMac]

okay, thanks for your opinion.

-laura

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

A 3.5 from UMich is pretty sad. If you were in one of the more rigorous Ivy's or MIT you would sink in a week.

 

[kito]

Troll alert.

 

[md_hopeful21]

I've looked at harvard and other IV league schools g.chem and o.chem exams and they seem like cake compared to the tough state school intro weeder class exams. BTW Medschools know this, so don't be surprised if a 3.9 from Berkeley is taken above a 3.9 from Yale.

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by md_hopeful21
I've looked at harvard and other IV league schools g.chem and o.chem exams and they seem like cake compared to the tough state school intro weeder class exams. BTW Medschools know this, so don't be surprised if a 3.9 from Berkeley is taken above a 3.9 from Yale.

Which is exactly why I stated "one of the more rigorous Ivy's." I'm not talking about one of the Ivy's where the overall average is a "B." I don't attend Harvard or Yale. But I will say that I do attend an Ivy and the rigor of the curriculum is more intense than Berkeley and most other top schools.

It's reflected in the suicide rate too .

 

[jennie 21]

Laura,
I think that adcoms understand that U. Mich. is more rigorous than community college, and that maintaining a 3.5 there reflects well on you. I think that they'll respect the fact that you chose to transfer from community college to someplace more challenging. A 3.5 from U. Mich means a LOT more than a 3.9 from community college, IMHO. Keep up the good work and you should be fine.

Squat n Squeeze: You are an a**. A 3.5 from Michigan is nothing to sneeze at (and I went to one of the "more rigorous" Ivys, too). Why do you have to insult the op when she's just looking for help?

 

[Nutmeg]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
Which is exactly why I stated "one of the more rigorous Ivy's." I'm not talking about one of the Ivy's where the overall average is a "B." I don't attend Harvard or Yale. But I will say that I do attend an Ivy and the rigor of the curriculum is more intense than Berkeley and most other top schools.

It's reflected in the suicide rate too .

All right, troll, then where exactly do you go to school? If your going to insult me and make this claim, then at least have the GD balls to name the school.

"You wanna make noise? Make noise!"

--Dr Dre

 

[lola]

i think your drop in gpa just goes to show that some schools are much more rigorous than others. a 3.5 from umich is very good, so don't worry too much about that! it would of course be better if you could get it a little higher, but a 3.5 is not bad at all.
the amcas application will lump all schools together. however, your app will probably be scrutinized and it will be apparent that you are getting some B's now and were getting A's at community college. there's nothing wrong with some B's here or there, though! it will also show your gpa's by year, so they will see that you had a higher gpa in your first couple of years.

 

[lola]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
Which is exactly why I stated "one of the more rigorous Ivy's." I'm not talking about one of the Ivy's where the overall average is a "B." I don't attend Harvard or Yale. But I will say that I do attend an Ivy and the rigor of the curriculum is more intense than Berkeley and most other top schools.

It's reflected in the suicide rate too .

dude... how do you know your school is more intense than berkeley? have you ever attended berkeley?

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by lola
dude... how do you know your school is more intense than berkeley? have you ever attended berkeley?

First of all, my school is ranked significantly higher than Berkeley. I attend Cornell. I've seen material from Berkeley's organic chemistry, quantum mechanics, and biochemistry courses and concluded that what I have learned/am learning is of a higher level of intensity. I know a couple of people who have transferred from/to Berkeley and they also agree that Cornell is more difficult. I know that I don't have concrete evidence, but from what I gathered, Cornell seems to be the more rigorous school.

 

[DAL]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
First of all, my school is ranked significantly higher than Berkeley. I attend Cornell. I've seen material from Berkeley's organic chemistry, quantum mechanics, and biochemistry courses and concluded that what I have learned/am learning is of a higher level of intensity. I know a couple of people who have transferred from/to Berkeley and they also agree that Cornell is more difficult. I know that I don't have concrete evidence, but from what I gathered, Cornell seems to be the more rigorous school.

Cornell....Berkeley....blah blah blah. Who cares? They're both great schools.

 

[Zahri]

Squat and Squeeze - there's no need to be so pompous. A 3.5 from UMich is not bad. HOw do you know her major anyway? It could be engineering for all you know and UMich, Berkeley engineering is signficantly better than Cornell... There's no need to think you are better than everyone else.

 

[lola]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
First of all, my school is ranked significantly higher than Berkeley. I attend Cornell. I've seen material from Berkeley's organic chemistry, quantum mechanics, and biochemistry courses and concluded that what I have learned/am learning is of a higher level of intensity. I know a couple of people who have transferred from/to Berkeley and they also agree that Cornell is more difficult. I know that I don't have concrete evidence, but from what I gathered, Cornell seems to be the more rigorous school.

even if cornell's curriculum is more rigorous than berkeley's, that doesn't mean it's any harder to get an A there. i'm not trying to argue with you b/c really i have no idea which school is harder to get an A at. i just think it's obnoxious that you would have such an attitude. you better pack it away when you get to med school b/c most of your classmates will not be coming from the "more rigorous ivy's". oh yeah, and i wouldn't actually say that cornell is ranked significantly higher than berkeley! please! there are similar caliber students at both institutions.

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by lola
even if cornell's curriculum is more rigorous than berkeley's, that doesn't mean it's any harder to get an A there. i'm not trying to argue with you b/c really i have no idea which school is harder to get an A at. i just think it's obnoxious that you would have such an attitude. you better pack it away when you get to med school b/c most of your classmates will not be coming from the "more rigorous ivy's". oh yeah, and i wouldn't actually say that cornell is ranked significantly higher than berkeley! please! there are similar caliber students at both institutions.

Well there is a distinct difference between me and those "other" students. They won't do as well in medical school and therefore they will not be accepted into prestigious residency programs. I think that I do have a right to boast in front of other med students since I am superior to many of them, whether they want to believe it or not. If someone can't pull a 3.6 in UMich, they are definitely inferior to an individual who can achieve a 4.0 at Cornell.

 

[lola]

oh my god. it's called humility, my friend. apparently cornell forgot to teach you one of the most important characteristics of a likeable person.
you obviously don't know anything about the reputation of u mich, nor do you care to admit that some extremely bright people may be at state schools for purely financial or personal/family reasons. i, too, chose to attend a private school over one of my state schools. however, there are plenty of extremely bright people in public institutions who, for whatever reason, chose to attend their state school.
please don't say you are superior to people, because you are not. academically you may be better off, but your personal qualities need some serious improvement. intelligence/achievement in no way make someone superior to someone else. please don't forget this when you are treating patients!

 

[kito]

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by lola
oh my god. it's called humility, my friend. apparently cornell forgot to teach you one of the most important characteristics of a likeable person.
you obviously don't know anything about the reputation of the u mich, nor do you care to admit that some extremely bright people may be at state schools for purely financial or personal/family reasons. i, too, chose to attend a private school over one of my state schools. however, there are plenty of extremely bright people in public institutions who, for whatever reason, chose to attend their state school.
please don't say you are superior to people, because you are not. academically you may be better off, but your personal qualities need some serious improvement. intelligence/achievement in no way make someone superior to someone else. please don't forget this when you are treating patients!

Firstly, when I say that I am "superior" to an individual, I am referring to the fact that I'm academically superior to him. I also know that some bright people attend state schools due to circumstances beyond their control, but anything less than a 3.9-4.0 is unacceptable in that case. If an individual can't maintain a stellar gpa in a mediocre-slightly above average state school, just imagine how poorly they would perform in a more challenging institution. Therefore, they lack the intelligence of someone who achieves stellar grades in a rigorous Ivy, Hopkins, or MIT. This lack of intelligence will usually show up in medical school, which is why so many people enter medical school hoping to enter competitive specialties but most end up in mediocre residency programs in non-competitive speciaties. Unfortunately, their lack of ability often comes through when they become a physician, which is what leads to so many medical mistakes. There is no reason (short of a personal emergency) why an individual in a state school can't maintain stellar grades if in fact he/she is serious about medicine and has at least some aptitude.

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by Gleevec
Cornell is easy, like Squat's mom.

Nope, it's hard, just like I was when Gleevec's mom bent over for me.

 

[kito]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
Nope, it's hard, just like I was when Gleevec's mom bent over for me.

Errrr?

 

[lola]

it's jackasses like you that allow me to be happy about getting into med school with a subpar mcat. sometimes i feel a tinge of guilt b/c i know perhaps more qualified students were rejected when i got in, but when people like you come along it makes me feel so good! thank you

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by lola
it's jackasses like you that allow me to be happy about getting into med school with a subpar mcat. sometimes i feel a tinge of guilt b/c i know perhaps more qualified students were rejected when i got in, but when people like you come along it makes me feel so good! thank you

It's unfortunate that adcoms select individuals with sub-par credentials to become physicians. The MCAT is supposed to indicate how an individual will perform as a physician. All it asks for is to exhibit the minimum cognitive abilities that would allow someone to act as a competent physician. If someone cannot score well on it, that clearly exhibits that he/she will not be a decent physician and will most probably make mistakes throughout the course of his/her career.

I guess it's just one of the many problems that healthcare is facing.

 

[GoodMonkey]

to the OP:

your grades are just fine. no worries. my first year of undergrad, i went to a little state school and got a 4.0. i attended michigan for the next 2.5 years and got about a 3.7 average there (ranging from a 3.2 one semester to 4.0 another, not in any logical "progression" either, just variable based on the # of classes and their degree of difficulty for that semester.) i did a year of grad school at a totally different university and got about a 3.8. hell, i even dropped out of grad school. it was all averaged together, GPA-wise, and nobody mentioned a word of it. i was fully able to explain why i went to each of the three schools and what i got out of them. that was important in interviews.

ignore the trolls and best wishes in your app cycle. there is so much more to this process than your grades and by the sounds of it, it seems like you're doing fine in that arena anyway.

 

[kito]

Originally posted by GoodMonkey
ignore the trolls and best wishes in your app cycle. there is so much more to this process than your grades and by the sounds of it, it seems like you're doing fine in that arena anyway.

Word.

 

[md_hopeful21]

How many people think SquatandSneeze needs a girlfriend, lets put up a poll on that.

I defintely do!

 

[Gleevec]

Hey Squat,
Too bad you go to such an inferior school. To not even be ranked in the top 5 of undergraduate or medical schools, your education must be pathetic. I mean, Weill is not a top 10 medical school (ranked 12th), nor is Cornell a top 10 undergraduate (ranked 14th). You as a person are irrelevant to me, as I attend an undergraduate that is not only in the top 5, but is associated with a medical school that is top 5 as well. Your grades do not matter, nor do your extracurriculars. You are an inferior being to me. Do not respond, for your puny mind cannot create any arguments to contend with those of my mind, which has been cultivated and nourished at a top 5 undergraduate. Please do not waste my oxygen in the future. You are a failure in life, and the resources you waste should be saved for superior individuals such as myself and others who attend top 5 undergrads and top 5 medical schools. Thank you in advance for not wasting any more of humanity's precious resources, which should be reserved for only mankind's most able and intelligent who reside at top 5 schools.

Sincerely, your superior in all aspects of life (including my superior/equal MCAT and GPA to yours, as posted in other threads-- of course, your stats are made up and mine are for real)

Gleevec


PS to read if you are not Squat and Squeeze: If you read SDN often, you know that I do not believe the above statement at all. Furthermore, I abhor arrogance as much as anyone, including Squat, so please pardon the tone in the post above, it was just intended for Squat. It is easy for any ***** to come on SDN and make comments like Squat and Squeeze that imply that all public school students/students at lower ranked schools are inferior. I just extend the argument against Squat and Squeeze to show him how he is inferior by his own standards to others.

Also, I have nothing against Cornell (except having accepted Squat and Squeeze, WTF were the adcoms thinking?), and one of my best friends goes there, its a great school and I think the med school is fantastic as well. Who cares about rankings that much anyway? Only Squat I think.

Peace out.

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by Gleevec
Hey Squat,
Too bad you go to such an inferior school. To not even be ranked in the top 5 of undergraduate or medical schools, your education must be pathetic. I mean, Weill is not a top 10 medical school (ranked 12th), nor is Cornell a top 10 undergraduate (ranked 14th). You as a person are irrelevant to me, as I attend an undergraduate that is not only in the top 5, but is associated with a medical school that is top 5 as well. Your grades do not matter, nor do your extracurriculars. You are an inferior being to me. Do not respond, for your puny mind cannot create any arguments to contend with those of my mind, which has been cultivated and nourished at a top 5 undergraduate. Please do not waste my oxygen in the future. You are a failure in life, and the resources you waste should be saved for superior individuals such as myself and others who attend top 5 undergrads and top 5 medical schools. Thank you in advance for not wasting any more of humanity's precious resources, which should be reserved for only mankind's most able and intelligent who reside at top 5 schools.

Sincerely, your superior in all aspects of life (including my superior/equal MCAT and GPA to yours, as posted in other threads-- of course, your stats are made up and mine are for real)

Gleevec

Firstly, a degree from Cornell carries a higher level of prestige than does a degree from Duke. There is one simple reason for this: Cornell is an Ivy League University, Duke is not. While Duke might be ranked slightly higher than Cornell, the Ivy degree holds world-wide prestige. The layperson only knows Duke for its basketball team, while any bum in Grand Central Station knows what Cornell really is. Graduating from an Ivy is more prestigious than graduating from any other institution.

Secondly, I wasn't accepted to Duke because I never applied there. During my senior year of high school, I applied to Cornell, Harvard, Princeton, MIT, and Columbia. While I was accepted to all five schools, I chose Cornell because of its Ivy reputation and its academic rigor. Sure, I could have attended top-ranked Harvard, but I wouldn't have been challenging my superior intellectial abilities. When it came down to the bottom line, I was seriously deciding between Cornell and MIT. While MIT is an excellent school, I chose Cornell for its Ivy reputation. Everyone knows that in the real world nothing will open up more top opportunities for an individual than an Ivy education.

Thirdly, you do not have equal numbers to me. My GPA and MCAT are far superior to yours. As I understand, you have a 3.8 and 38. So what? There are thousands of dime-a-dozen cookie cutter biology major pre-meds who come out with a 3.8. I achieved a 4.0 while majoring in biochemistry and physics, which is far more prestigious and less common. My MCAT score, which was perfect, is also far superior to yours. This clearly shows that the academic rigor of Cornell is far more intense than Duke. If you were only able to score a 38 on the MCAT while I was able to score a 43-45, it says something about Duke. Further, I'm willing to extrapolate that my impressive list of superior ECs far outdo your own. Utilizing the ample opportunities for meaningful ECs offered to me by my school along with my superior intellect, I have accomplished more than anyone I know.

Finally, I have been reading the interview thread, and I know for a fact that I have more interviews at top 10 medical schools than you do. Obviously, the adcoms see more in my numbers and extra-curricular accomplishments than they see in your relatively inferior grades and achievements. Overall, you don't have much to boast about, so go crawl back into your hole and realize your inferiority to my greatness.

 

[lola]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
My MCAT score, which was perfect, is also far superior to yours. This clearly shows that the academic rigor of Cornell is far more intense than Duke. If you were only able to score a 38 on the MCAT while I was able to score a 43-45, it says something about Duke.

this is a ******ed argument.
obviously you are not as smart as you think you are.

 

[Sweet Tea]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze
Overall, you don't have much to boast about, so go crawl back into your hole and realize your inferiority to my greatness.

pointing out the obvious... TROLL ALERT

 

[kito]

Why do you continue to humor him?

 

[SunnyS81]

To the OP:

I wouldn't worry abou the school switching being frowned upon as comrade Good Monkey stated earlier. However, I would worry about the trend of declining grades. Typically, if you show improvement that is looked upon more favorably than a declining grades. Although you're 3.5 doesn't tell me if it has been increasing or decreasing, I would encourage you to keep hacking at it to making sure you show a rising trend.


To Gleevec:

Guy, why are you wasting your time with the Cornellian. He's a waste of your time.

Back to studying................

 

[Squat n Squeeze]

Originally posted by Gleevec
You must have gotten rejected from the other top schools you applied to. You are probably a NY resident anyway, so of course your acceptance rate is going to be higher for Cornell. Im glad you take the easier track.

Duke is known for basketball by laymen, but Cornell is known for nothing by the average joe. To most people, Ivy means Harvard, Yale, Princeton. Im sorry youre not a part of that group, but dont feel bad, lots of very good Ivy schools are forgotten by the common man. Most people havent heard of WashU either, but its med school is absolutely fantastic. People should be proud of whatever school they go to, because ultimately it is their own individual effort that will be acknowledged and assessed by adcoms, not that of the school as a whole.

Prestige? From who? If you are talking about the common person, I guarantee you they have at least heard of Duke, from basketball or medicine. Most people don't even know where Cornell Med even is, or that is it is the same as Weill.

Im glad prestige is all you care about as opposed to actually being smart. That explains your complete lack of intelligence on this board. You are more concerned with appearances than actual substance, and that is why you will always have to resort to posting false profiles on anonymous messageboards to try and impress people online-- since you are certainly completely unimpressive in real life.

Wow, you just said "I have more interviews at top 10 schools" First off, that implies you value rankings. As stated early, my undergrad and med school are clearly superior to yours in these very rankings you seem to value. Secondly, I did not apply to some top schools simply because of cost and location considerations. So you are quite hypocritical to argue prestige vs rank when you simply select whichever measure benefits you most. Very unscientific reasoning, but when again, what do you expect from a pretender of knowledge?

The more I read your posts, the more I realize how unintelligent you are and that your arrogance is simply a means to protect your fragile ego from the truth-- that you simply are not as good as you think you are. Im sorry you turned out this way, and I dont know what made you have such low self-esteem that you would have to insult people on an anonymous messageboard with a fake profile of what you wish yourself to actually be. There was a point where I was angry that arrogant pretenders such as you existed in the premed community, but as I kept reading your posts I realized I shouldnt hate you, but pity you. You have no friends and probably spend all day and night studying just to barely pass classes that others ace while having fun and enjoying life.

So I guess what Im saying is, prestige and rank really dont matter as much as you think they do. I really dont care too much about what you think about me, I care more about what adcoms and my future classmates think, and that with your current attitude you will be a failure wherever you go.

Im sorry things in life didnt turn out the way you wanted them to. Im sorry youre not the person you pretend to be on SDN. I used to despise people like you, but I have learned that I should pity people like you, who in constantly demeaning others will go nowhere in life. I hope you find the help and peace that will allow you to stop adopting this false guise on SDN, and that will allow you one day to be happy with yourself instead of demeaning others.

A lot of people in SDN are happy, and I am glad to see that. And no matter how much your life might be miserable to the extent of making up a fake life to post on SDN, your insults cannot take anything away from my colleagues on SDN. I really hope you find the help that you so desperately need Squat, because no one should have to resort to creating a fake persona to support their fragile self-esteem.

That's exactly what I expected. Since you lack a strong argument, you made assumptions about my self-esteem and identity. Without any proof, you assume that I'm a "fake life posing on SDN." You then go on to assume that I spend all of my time studying for classes that everyone effortlessly aces. This is quite pathetic and clearly shows your lack of intelligence.

The truth is that I study hard for classes that many people fail while people who put in many hours ace. In addition, I found ample time for numerous meaningful extra-curricular activities. I come on here in clusters every few weeks to give everyone a reality check. I am basically trying to convey that sub-par numbers will not get you into medical school. It's a fact, no matter how much other SDNer's want to believe otherwise.

Finally, as I stated before, I had the opportunity to attend Harvard, which is a much more highly ranked school than Duke, but decided to attend elsewhere due to the desire for academic rigor. In the northeast, anyone would know more about Cornell and its affiliated medical school than they would about Duke. True, I highly value the ranking of an institution, but prestige is also very important. The bottom line is that any Ivy, whether Cornell, Princeton, or Harvard, is much more prestigious than Duke.

 

[lola]

Originally posted by Squat n Squeeze

In the northeast, anyone would know more about Cornell and its affiliated medical school than they would about Duke.

how about in the southeast? err... wait. the people in the northeast are superior to the people in the southeast, right?

mmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

 

[drlexygoat]

Who has time to type multiple page-long arguments and counters on an online forum? Shouldn't we all be studying biochem or memorizing codon tables?? I know I should!

 

[raining4days]

Your GPA is fine. Are you an URM? or a disadvantaged applicant? If you are, then your GPA is fine too.

 

[calcrew14]

[

Originally posted by drlexygoat
Who has time to type multiple page-long arguments and counters on an online forum? Shouldn't we all be studying biochem or memorizing codon tables?? I know I should!

Fast learners do have a lot of time. I have a feeling that this story may be near the end now that some people at Cornell probably have already had a good idea who S&S is (imposter or real.) Once his identity is revealed, Dr. Jeckel will bury Mr. Hyde for good. Instead of trying to be the most superior that he can be, S&S will only want to be as unique as all of us here.

By the way. the punch stats so far from this corner, Gleevec 1 S&S 0. S&S stated that he had anticipated the only single punch that landed though.

3.5 is fine. It is definitely finer if the OP is a URM or after raining for a few days. /QUOTE]

 

[PrincetonRocks]

I wouldn't worry about your slight drop in GPA. Though you'll be listing grades separately on AMCAS, only your cumulative GPA (from both schools) will really count, so it will all average out. However, in my honest opinion...you need to have at least a 3.7 or so to be really competitive for most schools, considering 4.0s are a dime a dozen in the applicant pool. I am attending an excellent institution and have managed a 4.0, but for the most part our grades are slightly inflated. Knock them dead on the MCAT (33+ with at least a 2 digits on each section) because i think this will slightly compensate for a sub-3.7 GPA. In conclusion, GPAs and MCATs cannot and will not be able to measure your overall qualification for medical school! Don't worry, just concentrate on your boosting your GPA and have fun in your extracurricular pursuits.

 

[noy]

SNS:

you turned down MIT and Harvard for Cornell? Sorry, but you just lost all credibility... talk about stupid. Prestige and academic rigor are important, and you skip out on the best education in the world for some hole-in-the-wall in the farmland? Dude, what a dumb move....

 

[Nutmeg]

I would say that the most superior people on this thread are the ones who managed to give meaningful answers to the OP without launching into a tirade about their own superiority and pissing off every other poster. There is no greater failure than an a$$hole. One thing I've learned in my time on this planet is that while JFK says a person with no enemies has no character, I'd say a person with no friends has no soul.

Any person who spends their Saturday making themselves feel big by railing on people is clearly a loser. Tests and GPA's don't mean a GD thing. You get a Noble Prize and save some lives; wel;, that's another thing. But make no mistake about it--boosting your "numbers" to satisfy your personal goals is not an accomplishment by any stretch of the imagination (of course, you probably had to sacrifice imagination to focus on the ever-important numbers, right? I mean, every imaginitive person I've ever known has been far more amiable and convivial than you show yourself to be). I don't give a rats a$$ how high your number are. In the past week, I kissed a white girl for the first time, I rapped free-flow in a job interview (and got the job!), and I rushed on to the field after watching my football team beat the number 3 ranked team in the nation for the first time in 28 years (in triple overtime!). Superiority, IMHO, comes from living life and meaningful interaction with your fellow human beings.

"Got what you wanted, lost what you had"

--"Puzzling Evidence," the Talking Heads

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by Nutmeg
I would say that the most superior people on this thread are the ones who managed to give meaningful answers to the OP without launching into a tirade about their own superiority and pissing off every other poster. There is no greater failure than an a$$hole. One thing I've learned in my time on this planet is that while JFK says a person with no enemies has no character, I'd say a person with no friends has no soul.

Any person who spends their Saturday making themselves feel big by railing on people is clearly a loser. Tests and GPA's don't mean a GD thing. You get a Noble Prize and save some lives; wel;, that's another thing. But make no mistake about it--boosting your "numbers" to satisfy your personal goals is not an accomplishment by any stretch of the imagination (of course, you probably had to sacrifice imagination to focus on the ever-important numbers, right? I mean, every imaginitive person I've ever known has been far more amiable and convivial than you show yourself to be). I don't give a rats a$$ how high your number are. In the past week, I kissed a white girl for the first time, I rapped free-flow in a job interview (and got the job!), and I rushed on to the field after watching my football team beat the number 3 ranked team in the nation for the first time in 28 years (in triple overtime!). Superiority, IMHO, comes from living life and meaningful interaction with your fellow human beings.

"Got what you wanted, lost what you had"

--"Puzzling Evidence," the Talking Heads

Yeah, I too was rooting for Cal over USC. What a great game.

 

[Nutmeg]

Originally posted by Gleevec
Yeah, I too was rooting for Cal over USC. What a great game.

The only bad part is I've still got their three-note fight song stuck on my mind. Arrrrrgh!

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

lol. I only got to see a part of the game because I was studying for a midterm I have tomorrow. But they even announced Cal's victory over the PA in Moffitt Library! I really did not see that one coming...the Bears beat a top 5 ranked team for the first time since 1975...eh..just goes to show...money is not a substitute for intelligence (j/k...I don't want to offend all the Trojans out there...it is a really good school...I'm just glad we beat them)

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by BerkeleyPremed
lol. I only got to see a part of the game because I was studying for a midterm I have tomorrow. But they even announced Cal's victory over the PA in Moffitt Library! I really did not see that one coming...the Bears beat a top 5 ranked team for the first time since 1975...eh..just goes to show...money is not a substitute for intelligence (j/k...I don't want to offend all the Trojans out there...it is a really good school...I'm just glad we beat them)

I thought yall beat Stanford when they were #3 a while (long while) back?

 

[calcrew14]

Originally posted by BerkeleyPremed
lol. ..I'm just glad we beat them)

Don't forget to put that in your secondary application for Keck School of Medicine!

By the way, the same Trojans was that 4th rank team that Cal beat in 1975. You might want to rub this in a little bit more to expedite your application process.

 

[ma-bas]

"In the past week, I kissed a white girl for the first time, I rapped free-flow in a job interview (and got the job!), and I rushed on to the field after watching my football team beat the number 3 ranked team in the nation for the first time in 28 years (in triple overtime!). Superiority, IMHO, comes from living life and meaningful interaction with your fellow human beings."

Nutmeg, I don't want to hate on fellow Bears, but WTF, what's the big deal about kissing a white girl for the first time? The implications of that statement are far reaching. Care to explain?

 

[calcrew14]

Nutmeg got a Saturday Night Fever, I guess.

 

[PianoGirl04]

Originally posted by calcrew14

Fast learners do have a lot of time. I have a feeling that this story may be near the end now that some people at Cornell probably have already had a good idea who S&S is (imposter or real.) Once his identity is revealed, Dr. Jeckel will bury Mr. Hyde for good. Instead of trying to be the most superior that he can be, S&S will only want to be as unique as all of us here.

Hehe...I'm a Cornellian...maybe I should take it upon myself to find out who this guy is. Of course, since he's a troll, maybe he's lying about being from Cornell anyway...

you turned down MIT and Harvard for Cornell? Sorry, but you just lost all credibility... talk about stupid. Prestige and academic rigor are important, and you skip out on the best education in the world for some hole-in-the-wall in the farmland? Dude, what a dumb move....

Hey, I take offense to that! I have a lot of pride in Cornell. It's an excellent, rigorous institution, NOT just some "hole-in-the-wall in the farmland." Cornell may not be the prototypical Ivy, but it's still a top-tier school, and like it or not, its name carries a lot of weight. It may have the reputation of being the easiest Ivy to get into, but it also has the reputation of being the hardest one to make it through. I don't care whether or not that's true, but I would choose Cornell over many other prestigious schools any day. Heck, I chose Cornell over full scholarships to some other schools! Although I have to agree that it's in the middle of nowhere...

 

[Nutmeg]

Originally posted by ma-bas
"In the past week, I kissed a white girl for the first time, I rapped free-flow in a job interview (and got the job!), and I rushed on to the field after watching my football team beat the number 3 ranked team in the nation for the first time in 28 years (in triple overtime!). Superiority, IMHO, comes from living life and meaningful interaction with your fellow human beings."

Nutmeg, I don't want to hate on fellow Bears, but WTF, what's the big deal about kissing a white girl for the first time? The implications of that statement are far reaching. Care to explain?

Nothing special about white girls, and that wasn't what I was trying to say. All of the women I've dated to this point have looked different than me, and that's the way I like it--they've all had dark hair and dark eyes. As a blond haired-blue eyed dude, I usually go after women who don't look like they're related to me. But this girl went after me (to an extent), and I'm not going to say no to someone just for being white. All in all, I believe variety is the spice of life, and it was a new experience for me.

"If everybody looked the same we'd get tired of looking at eachother"

--Groove Armada

Thank's for asking the question, though--I don't think I realized that it sounded like that, and that wasn't what I wanted to convey at all. Good thing you set me straight on this.

 

[calcrew14]

Originally posted by PianoGirl04


Hehe...I'm a Cornellian...maybe I should take it upon myself to find out who this guy is. Of course, since he's a troll, maybe he's lying about being from Cornell anyway...


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Interesting. I always give the benefit of the doubt to what S&S has said. But now that I know that you are also there. He might even be your imposter in term of MCAT score.

In case he is legit, he should be wellknown at Cornell. Otherwise, he is looking for trouble trying to falsely mislead people to believe that he was there. For the sake of himself and his future patients, I hope that he would tune it up a little bit. There is no need to build up any unwanted habbit.