D datdat Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jul 5, 2009 Messages 221 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Pre-Dental Aug 21, 2009 #1 Advertisement - Members don't see this ad could anyone explain this reaction : CH3CH2Cl 1.Mg,ether 2.CH3CH2OH i'm sure that this is the grinard + primary alcohol... but don't know what the product will be by which rxn?
Advertisement - Members don't see this ad could anyone explain this reaction : CH3CH2Cl 1.Mg,ether 2.CH3CH2OH i'm sure that this is the grinard + primary alcohol... but don't know what the product will be by which rxn?
Valigator00 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Mar 4, 2009 Messages 247 Reaction score 1 Points 4,571 Location Buffalo Dental Student Aug 21, 2009 #2 datdat said: could anyone explain this reaction : CH3CH2Cl 1.Mg,ether 2.CH3CH2OH i'm sure that this is the grinard + primary alcohol... but don't know what the product will be by which rxn? Click to expand... I believe it will be Ethane + salt. (cuz grignard reagent attacks the hydrogen atom) Last edited: Aug 21, 2009 Upvote 0 Downvote
datdat said: could anyone explain this reaction : CH3CH2Cl 1.Mg,ether 2.CH3CH2OH i'm sure that this is the grinard + primary alcohol... but don't know what the product will be by which rxn? Click to expand... I believe it will be Ethane + salt. (cuz grignard reagent attacks the hydrogen atom)
U UCB05 Full Member 15+ Year Member Joined Jun 14, 2009 Messages 813 Reaction score 10 Points 4,817 Pre-Dental Aug 21, 2009 #3 My guess would be: CH3CH2Cl + Mg -> CH3CH2MgCl CH3CH2MgCl + CH3CH2OH > CH3CH3 + CH3CH2O- + +MgCl -> Ethane + CH3CH2OMgBr CH3CH2- being a strong base would abstract the slightly acidic alcohol H+ to form the ethane and alkoxide Upvote 0 Downvote
My guess would be: CH3CH2Cl + Mg -> CH3CH2MgCl CH3CH2MgCl + CH3CH2OH > CH3CH3 + CH3CH2O- + +MgCl -> Ethane + CH3CH2OMgBr CH3CH2- being a strong base would abstract the slightly acidic alcohol H+ to form the ethane and alkoxide
K kkmaths90 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Aug 18, 2009 Messages 215 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Pre-Dental Aug 21, 2009 #4 Agree with UCB05 😛 😀 grignard reagents very strong bases so whenever they reaction with acids or alcohol, they remove their acidic hydrogen. Upvote 0 Downvote
Agree with UCB05 😛 😀 grignard reagents very strong bases so whenever they reaction with acids or alcohol, they remove their acidic hydrogen.
W WOAHHI Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Dec 28, 2008 Messages 78 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Aug 22, 2009 #5 do grignard reagent's react with acidic alpha hydrogens? Upvote 0 Downvote
U UCB05 Full Member 15+ Year Member Joined Jun 14, 2009 Messages 813 Reaction score 10 Points 4,817 Pre-Dental Aug 22, 2009 #6 WOAHHI said: do grignard reagent's react with acidic alpha hydrogens? Click to expand... Well, if there's an alpha hydrogen, there's a carbonyl group. The carbonyl carbon is a much juicier target for the grignard reagent. Upvote 0 Downvote
WOAHHI said: do grignard reagent's react with acidic alpha hydrogens? Click to expand... Well, if there's an alpha hydrogen, there's a carbonyl group. The carbonyl carbon is a much juicier target for the grignard reagent.
W WOAHHI Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Dec 28, 2008 Messages 78 Reaction score 0 Points 1 Aug 22, 2009 #7 thanks! Upvote 0 Downvote