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Definitely did. Sounds like a good plan. Bank/master GT, then move to everything else.
Curious, will you work GT all the way to May or will you abandon it?
Seems extremely low yield to know the 6 muscles of the larynx, functions, and locations...
surprisingly, i had a question using this info on UWorld today. the more UWorld i do, the more i trust GT. currently, i am around 75% banked with 50% mastery on comprehensive mode (i started beginning of summer to bank all of M1 and have been doing M2 concurrently with class, but then filling in all the gaps my classes don't cover). i'm planning on finish banking all of GT by march, along with my first pass on UWorld with annotations. so far, GT is nothing but gold. i only wish i had more GT to bank for the random little tidbits that aren't in it that are in FA or in UW.
I'd appreciate anybody's input:
I'm about 4 months out from Step 1 and everybody around me keeps ranting and raving about GT. Should I start this now? I'm not sure what to do. My original plan was to go through Pathoma in each M2 system followed by Goljan 2x and then First Aid. I went through most of the Kaplan Lecture Notes already (but admittedly I forgot a lot of the Biochem and Molecular Bio). Thanks to all of you in this great community
Hi -done!
What is everyone's opinion on banking/mastering material before you have them on exams?
I know someone advised that doing it after is a good idea, but then I read on GT blog or something how GT was helping them on exams. Has anyone been banking/mastering before taking the associated exam? How is it going?
1) As someone else mentioned, just do your weakest sections. You may already have mastered cardio or biochem and don't need to do them. If you have time, add some more.M2 here, just starting gunner training. My plan is to just review all the organ systems along with my classes. I dont have too much time to devote to this, do you guys think GT is useless if I stay on lite mode? Also what other resources in addition to GT are M2's using to prepare for the boards throughout the year?
really solid strategy, I like it!
During your blocks when you rate cards 1-2 or 3, how many review cards would you have a day. Just trying to get a sense of how hectic it gets, when a lot cards keep showing up frequently.
Also at around what % completion do the daily review cards really start to pile up (how many cards? roughly)... I'm trying to gauge how hectic things get down the road, I'm at 25% overall completion.
Thanks
They're constantly adding new things.Does anyone else get that " X amount new topics have new questions" message? Are they adding more content to the cards I already covered or are they are just asking more questions about it?
i have on average 300q's a day. it gets lower by the end of a block when im mastering things. but recently i've been trying to play catch up and fill in a lot of subjects that my classes barely touched so that i have a more complete knowledge of everything. so my daily review has really been piling closer to 400-500 or more if i miss a day (happens now and then for me)
really, on average between doing review questions and banking new material, i spend 4ish hours a day on GT. sometimes more, sometimes less. but remember, i started last year in the beginning of summer, and i have set out to have all of GT finished by march, so i am pushing a fast pace. so i would take what i say about my study plan with a grain of salt.
im almost at 80% completion but i haven't done the all the anatomy cars (which i already took last year, so i know thats another easy 10% once i sit down and get through them). i am around 50% mastery, but i am pretty hard on myself when i rank things. i try not to pay too much attention to mastery and remember the overall picture- retention.
GL
Using this at a non-P/F could be tougher. The only reason I would be concerned with ms-1 and ms-2 grades is if your school factors these in to your rank, AOA selection, or dean's letter.Took me ~80m to do 100 Q's today. I probably am looking up too much stuff in b/t questions... only about ~10% banked. I can see this would be valuable but I feel like I will need to sacrifice honoring courses to do this. It will take a serious time commitment to do over 2 years...
Again, I think it's valuable but it's hard to give up doing well in courses. If I begin adding cards everyday, I could see my daily time eclipsing 2 hours pretty easily. If your school has occasional mandatory sessions, then life gets busy. I definitely see the value of this but it does come at a cost.
This would be amazing at a P/F school. If I end up liking some competitive specialties, I'm not sure I can just write off 1st/2nd year with all P's.
I think I'll continue for now.
Using this at a non-P/F could be tougher. The only reason I would be concerned with ms-1 and ms-2 grades is if your school factors these in to your rank, AOA selection, or dean's letter.
Again and again, links to AMA surveys and residency director polls have showed step 1 score >>>>> pre clinical grades. Step score, LOR, clerkship grades, rotations, and personal statement are all way more important factors in getting a good residency.
That said, it makes since to take the hit right now and be prepared for boards. My only caveat is that this wouldn't be a good plan if you're borderline failing a class, obviously.
I'm avg 150 questions/day and this is a good 2 hrs of solid work every day. I find when I get up early and do it first thing, it feels like I have more time for class stuff. In addition, I get to correlate my massive amt of class material to a high yield source and I'm able to see the bigger picture which is helping me in my classes.
I'm an MS2 and am wondering if students are substituting the Power Points used in class for strictly GT? Are people using GT instead of First Aid to prepare for Step 1? Is it futile to use GT for the first time 5 months before Step 1? I'm reading FA but would love to be quizzed after each subject. Is GT structured just like FA and if so, will it allow me to quiz myself after each subject?
Thx
My school exams are the opposite of Step in that 75% of each exam is minutiae BS that I'll never see again. For us, GT would be a horrible idea to use in an attempt to replace classes. However, it does help you organize the subjects and stay on top of them.I'm an MS2 and am wondering if students are substituting the Power Points used in class for strictly GT? Are people using GT instead of First Aid to prepare for Step 1? Is it futile to use GT for the first time 5 months before Step 1? I'm reading FA but would love to be quizzed after each subject. Is GT structured just like FA and if so, will it allow me to quiz myself after each subject?
Thx
Sorry to hear man. They do try and make school far more difficult that it need be.Btw, we do factor it into rank/AOA, but I doubt I would be able to snag AOA. I can't completely fall asleep on grades though, as being in the bottom half of the class won't work. I agree with your sentiments though. Tying the info to a high yield source and doing well on Step 1 are much more important. I guess it comes down to having faith in GT and standardized test skills.
I'm going to double my GT time for now and treat it as a central portion of my education.
Just a couple of questions for the GT veterans:
1. Is the current recommendation to wait 'til the end of anatomy to start using this?
2. If I had 18 months from the end of anatomy until Step I, how many months would you 'pre-buy' with the assumption that GT makes 'special offers' every now and then.
3. I know people like using this with P/F, but would anyone have qualms with using it with H/P/F?
1. I disagree with the above poster. If this was available to me when I had anatomy, I would've done it along with class or right after the class. GT now has an anatomy section (95 topics) and an embryo section (28 topics). That's a good chunk (~10%?) of mat'l that you could master and not worry about during ms2 like me. You may be able to knock off some biochem, physio, and micro depending on your curriculum.Just a couple of questions for the GT veterans:
1. Is the current recommendation to wait 'til the end of anatomy to start using this?
2. If I had 18 months from the end of anatomy until Step I, how many months would you 'pre-buy' with the assumption that GT makes 'special offers' every now and then.
3. I know people like using this with P/F, but would anyone have qualms with using it with H/P/F?
A man can dream...a man can dream.Are there plans for a step 2 version of GT?
A man can dream...a man can dream.
I take that as a no. I'm really turning up my use of GT. Wish I had been earlier. 5 mo's to go. Trying to bank everything.
And thought to myself. Could there be a better way to squeeze in studying in between the long ward hours?
But if the company hasn't indicated any plans then it likely won't happen in our time frame for getting to 4 th year.
I take that as a no. I'm really turning up my use of GT. Wish I had been earlier. 5 mo's to go. Trying to bank everything.
And thought to myself. Could there be a better way to squeeze in studying in between the long ward hours?
But if the company hasn't indicated any plans then it likely won't happen in our time frame for getting to 4 th year.
1. I disagree with the above poster. If this was available to me when I had anatomy, I would've done it along with class or right after the class. GT now has an anatomy section (95 topics) and an embryo section (28 topics). That's a good chunk (~10%?) of mat'l that you could master and not worry about during ms2 like me. You may be able to knock off some biochem, physio, and micro depending on your curriculum.
2. Get a free code from someone to see if you even like it. If it's right for you, start at maybe 6 mo and go from there. You may be able to grab another 3-6 mo from invites and knab a groupon for a cheap 3 mo. I also got 1-2 free mo from technical difficulties when they were changing the sites.
3. Depends on your goals and the school. Preclinical grades don't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but sometimes your school might use them for rank, AOA, and maybe even Dean's letter.
Hope that helps. I think the earlier you start this, the less questions you'll have a day (able to really spread it out) and the more you'll see the mat'l.
I sent them this:
We really need you guys to move your Step 2 product into overdrive.
We're loyal. We spread the news. We love your material. We love the technique. Once we finish with Step 1 in five months we need to start preparing for step 2. If you don't have something for us to go with by that time you will have missed the boat for your 1st wave of loyal accolytes.
Make it happen. We'll buy the product. And promote it.
What are you waiting for...the time for it was yesterday.
Thanks.
Used all the votes I could. Hopefully everyone else will get on this too.go to the feedback section of GT and look at the left hand side...then vote for the topic called "GT for step 2 - please vote". for those unfamiliar with the feedback section, GT solicits ideas from their users for new things they can do to improve their service, and other users can vote on ideas to let them know what they should make a priority. let's hope the step 2 idea gets popular enough
Used all the votes I could. Hopefully everyone else will get on this too.
Should we start posting on their facebook page too?
I pull up GT on my phone all the time and knock out sets of 10-20 questions. Hell, probably bank more questions in the bathroom than I do at my desk. I would love to do that during year 3 in those few minutes of down time. Also, GT site looks fantastic on this new Galaxy Nexus phone.
I banked 100% biochem this summer and have almost completely mastered it. Tried the Uworld Biochem questions a month ago and was murdering them.I wanted to drop by to give GT some major love. I recently started doing more of the Kaplan qbank (which is notoriously picky and detailed) and GT has literally brought me from pulling 60% on short question sets back in September up to 95% today. I can tell you that GT is responsible because I literally have not cracked open a single other source for reviewing material besides GT. Not even First Aid. I haven't used UWorld yet, but I can only imagine that knowing your **** cold will only help.
If any of you are on the fence about GT and have problems remembering the detailed stuff like I do, buy GT. Just do it. Best investment I've made in med school test prep, hands down.
Yah, sad thing was is GT was one of the things I factored into the purchase.can only second that
I actually used GT as an excuse to justify buying that phone.
Damn I see a lot of posts about doing 300-500 q's a day sometimes and upto 4 hours of devoted time haha.
I'm only getting in roughly 8 solid hours of studying a day so I don't think I would be able to pull this off. Spending 50% of my time reviewing when I'm still re-learning new concepts seems a bit too much I proabably need to spend 60-70% of my time learning the new concepts and going through videos/notes and the rest reviewing.
I guess I'm not meant to be a gunner haha.
7 months is more than enough time to use GT. If you bank ~5 cards/day you'll be done in 7 months. In my experience, 5 cards/day would probably take 20 min to an hour to bank (depending on the length of the card, your comfort level with the material, and the number of associated questions). If you bank the cards slowly and consistently over time, and if you don't rank all your review questions at 1's or 2's even when you know the answer (which some people do), you will not be accumulating 300-500 questions to answer every day. The highest I got to was about 380 questions in a day, and that was after a few catch-up weeks of banking 10-20 cards/day. I would say the average number of questions I was getting was closer to 200 (I was pretty much banking 10 cards/day consistently throughout fall semester of MS2).
After getting used to GT, I was able to get through ~100 or so questions in 30 minutes. The key is to just go through as quickly as possible so your recall gets faster. Also, if you're not a fan of sitting down to do hundreds of questions at once, you always have the option of doing 10 questions here and there throughout the day whenever you find yourself with some free time (e.g. waiting in line somewhere, on the bus, whatever).
Give the 1 month trial a shot!