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[Alvarez13]

How would you be 100% banked in Feb?

You would just start learning material on your own before you covered the last 3 months of M2?

I guess different schools do it different. We end pathology here in a few weeks and then it's all pharm and some diagnosis stuff until step.

There's also plenty of subjects I've done w/out classes going over it at the time. Pathoma + Goljan + GT can give you a pretty good overview of the material. Better than class in a lot of ways sometimes.

 

[Alvarez13]

Are you doing, or have u completed, other things (RR Path, FA, Pathoma, BRS series etc) besides GT?

Pathoma and GT are my mainstays. I've cut back on annotating FA and have been using GT more. I listen to Goljan in the gym and drive to school.

 

[WarriorMD]

Litemode

Is it worth doing the GT training in litemode and then when you click on see answer just read the extra info and then make notes on the side as to what to know and what to skip.

Or does defeat the purpose of GT?

About to restart my GT and want to know if its a waste of time doing my first month on litemode. I see a lot of points in anatomy I don't care to remember, maybe I should just rate those a 5?

 

[ashik33]

Litemode

Is it worth doing the GT training in litemode and then when you click on see answer just read the extra info and then make notes on the side as to what to know and what to skip.

Or does defeat the purpose of GT?

About to restart my GT and want to know if its a waste of time doing my first month on litemode. I see a lot of points in anatomy I don't care to remember, maybe I should just rate those a 5?

I guess it's better of going on the comprehensive mode. Rate 5 if u are absolutely sure of the facts in the whole explanation card (n not just the qn). I guess ur retreival of facts in the card will b more important than mere answering qns (Just for example. there's a qn in apoptosis with answer menopause which I now answer even without seeing the qn but i rate it 3 just to recall the other points in the card). But remember, if u don't rate 5, u'll again be in trouble of piling up many. U can figure out what's best for u. (I use 5 for qns with small explanation card with easy facts)

 

[amaprez]

Bottom line...I remain doubtful about this program's feasibility for someone who MUST attend class from 8am to 4pm everyday. The people here lauding GT have optional attendance and often don't go to class. They watch their lectures at home at 1.5-2x speed and can afford the extra time.

But if you have mandatory attendance..and you can only start studying @ 4-5pm I don't see how you would have the time to stay current on both your daily lectures and the flashcards on a daily basis. Maybe on a light day here and there, but most likely not consistently. Please prove me wrong.

 

[WarriorMD]

I feel like with litemode waking up and seeing 100 questions for the day will be a lot less intimidating than waking up to see 300-400 questions waiting for you haha. I guess I need to face the beast and go ahead with comprehensive, if I start to feel overwhelmed I'll switch over to lite mode later. Anatomy section seems to be very detailed so I will rate certain parts a 3-4 on my first run just so I don't see them too often. I'll bang home the main points by repeating them more often.

It's pretty amazing how this program works. Some parts in embryo were just too painful for me to bother with so I totally skipped them and even in GT I just quickly pressed show anser then ranked it a 2 and moved on. However, lately when those questions are showing up the answers just come up in my head like BOOOM! Without me even thinking or trying to get it it just comes on its own haha, I never even put effort into learning those cards, just through the constant repitition it found it's way into my head.

 

[ashik33]

I just quickly pressed show anser then ranked it a 2 and moved on.

Ya. Some topics are really very boring. Even I do the same n just "hope" I knew it without reading.

 

[ipizzy]

Bottom line...I remain doubtful about this program's feasibility for someone who MUST attend class from 8am to 4pm everyday. The people here lauding GT have optional attendance and often don't go to class. They watch their lectures at home at 1.5-2x speed and can afford the extra time.

But if you have mandatory attendance..and you can only start studying @ 4-5pm I don't see how you would have the time to stay current on both your daily lectures and the flashcards on a daily basis. Maybe on a light day here and there, but most likely not consistently. Please prove me wrong.

Absolutely not true. When I started GT in the fall, I had mandatory class (none of our lectures are video taped) from 8:30 to 4pm every day, and I was also working in a research lab for maybe 10 hours a week to finish up my summer project. I woke up around 6 or 6:30 to finish my review questions before class started, would use some of my lunch hour to finish up questions if I had a ton of questions that day and/or sometimes would bank a new card or two, and would take an hour or so before bed to bank new cards. I also made it a point to get enough sleep (for me, 7-8 hours a night), take Friday night and Saturdays off to spend with my significant other or friends, and to go to the gym for a run at least 3 times a week (sometimes I would multitask and bring my phone to do GT while I was cooling down). I started in September and made it to 85% banked/63% mastered by winter break in December.

I think if you're organized and strategic about it, GT can work for you. E.g. bank the cards that go along with your classes so you're studying for boards + class at the same time. Have goals and stick to them. I wanted to be mostly done with GT by the end of fall semester, so I tried to bank 10 flashcards every day. If I had a rough week with exams, I tried to catch up with banking GT cards after exams were done. I never failed to do the scheduled review questions, though.

I'd also like to point out that by no means was I sacrificing school work to study GT. I ended up ranking 1st in my class in 3/4 of the courses I took in the fall. The first two years of med school are not about being smart. They are about being organized and having the willpower/endurance to keep trucking through an incredible amount of information.

 

[Jack is Back]

Absolutely not true. When I started GT in the fall, I had mandatory class (none of our lectures are video taped) from 8:30 to 4pm every day, and I was also working in a research lab for maybe 10 hours a week to finish up my summer project. I woke up around 6 or 6:30 to finish my review questions before class started, would use some of my lunch hour to finish up questions if I had a ton of questions that day and/or sometimes would bank a new card or two, and would take an hour or so before bed to bank new cards. I also made it a point to get enough sleep (for me, 7-8 hours a night), take Friday night and Saturdays off to spend with my significant other or friends, and to go to the gym for a run at least 3 times a week (sometimes I would multitask and bring my phone to do GT while I was cooling down). I started in September and made it to 85% banked/63% mastered by winter break in December.

I think if you're organized and strategic about it, GT can work for you. E.g. bank the cards that go along with your classes so you're studying for boards + class at the same time. Have goals and stick to them. I wanted to be mostly done with GT by the end of fall semester, so I tried to bank 10 flashcards every day. If I had a rough week with exams, I tried to catch up with banking GT cards after exams were done. I never failed to do the scheduled review questions, though.

I'd also like to point out that by no means was I sacrificing school work to study GT. I ended up ranking 1st in my class in 3/4 of the courses I took in the fall. The first two years of med school are not about being smart. They are about being organized and having the willpower/endurance to keep trucking through an incredible amount of information.

Pretty impressive. I've been trying to stay on top of everything and find myself trying to ignore GT to do better in courses. I guess you just have to study fast for the school material to save time for GT.

You have to be pretty damn smart to do GT multiple hours per day and do well in your courses, while taking off Fri/Sat nights. I wouldn't attribute that to amazing organization skills. You're obviously flying through info quickly and still retaining it to do well in courses. Especially with 8-4pm schedule, that means you study less than 4 hours a day for school.

 

[DoctwoB]

Are you doing, or have u completed, other things (RR Path, FA, Pathoma, BRS series etc) besides GT?

I have a mid april Step1 and I am 95% banked, ~55% mastered (due to my habit of rating things I know as a 4 instead of a 5 to see them again before my test = lower mastery level). Goal is to be at 100% banked by the end of the week, then there's about 100 cards with additional questions I want to add.

In addition to class materials (very detailed, not as high yield), I have been studying First aid (it's easy after doing GT), BRS physio, Goljan audio lectures, and doing Kaplan Qbank questions along with classes, goal is to be done with them by dedicated study time. I've read through some RR path lectures, but find it too dense on details and I just don't retain much. His lectures don't cover everything in the book, but do a much better job explaining mechanisms and understanding.

By 7 weeks before the test (dedicated study time), I want to have done first aid 1x, BRS physio 1x, Goljan lectures 2x, Kaplan Qbank 1x, and all of GT.

By end of study time I want to have First aid ?x (? being as high as possible), Qbank and Uworld 2x each (+ incorrects again), BRS physio 2x, Goljain 3x, and GT as mastered as possible.

It's kind of an intense plan and studying for class has gone by the wayside a bit, but I'm shooting for a compétitive surgical specialty and really need that score.

 

[amaprez]

Pretty impressive. I've been trying to stay on top of everything and find myself trying to ignore GT to do better in courses. I guess you just have to study fast for the school material to save time for GT.

You have to be pretty damn smart to do GT multiple hours per day and do well in your courses, while taking off Fri/Sat nights. I wouldn't attribute that to amazing organization skills. You're obviously flying through info quickly and still retaining it to do well in courses. Especially with 8-4pm schedule, that means you study less than 4 hours a day for school.

Agreed. That was the hidden caveat. It's unfeasible....unless you're a wizard like Ipizzy Ranking 1st in 3/4 of his/her classes while still studying multiple hours of GT a day....I would say that indicates a very very bright (and disciplined) individual. Congrats on such an accomplishment Ipizzy; very envious indeed.

 

[jessesam]

I cannot do highlighting on Gunner training and copy to my notes any more , did they disable it ?

 

[ipizzy]

Agreed. That was the hidden caveat. It's unfeasible....unless you're a wizard like Ipizzy Ranking 1st in 3/4 of his/her classes while still studying multiple hours of GT a day....I would say that indicates a very very bright (and disciplined) individual. Congrats on such an accomplishment Ipizzy; very envious indeed.

Thanks but the thing is, I know that I am not smarter than my classmates. I find myself needing more time to think through concepts to understand them than many of my peers (who seem to pick things up really quickly, especially judging from the insightful questions they ask in class). The only thing I do differently from my classmates is that I tend to do things in advance, e.g. if we have a lecture on CHF I will do the reading in Lilly, try to understand it, bank the GT card, etc. before I step foot in the classroom. That way, I feel like I can pick up the finer points in class. Repetition is key lol

Also I think if you take care of yourself (mentally, socially, physically) then you can be incredibly productive with the (maybe smaller amount of) time you spend focusing on classwork.

Anyway, a lot of my friends are also using GT alongside our course schedule, so it can't just be me finding the time!!

EDIT: I should mention that I have great short term memory for GT, but the second time the question comes around (usually 10 days after first seeing it after banking the card), I almost invaraibly have to rank the card a 2. GT then gives me that same question every 1-2 days until I build it back up to a 4/5. So I guess I was seeing a lot of questions repeatedly, which I found very helpful (both for boards studying and for class studying). By the time exams rolled around for my classes, I felt very comfortable with the concepts/basics because of GT and could spend my focused study time on the more detailed, class-specific things.

 

[islandCrazy]

I found great use for Gunnertraining in terms of Biochemistry and Embryology however I was wondering what everyone thoughts were on the cardiology section of Gunner?

 

[Jack is Back]

Thanks but the thing is, I know that I am not smarter than my classmates. I find myself needing more time to think through concepts to understand them than many of my peers (who seem to pick things up really quickly, especially judging from the insightful questions they ask in class). The only thing I do differently from my classmates is that I tend to do things in advance, e.g. if we have a lecture on CHF I will do the reading in Lilly, try to understand it, bank the GT card, etc. before I step foot in the classroom. That way, I feel like I can pick up the finer points in class. Repetition is key lol

Also I think if you take care of yourself (mentally, socially, physically) then you can be incredibly productive with the (maybe smaller amount of) time you spend focusing on classwork.

Anyway, a lot of my friends are also using GT alongside our course schedule, so it can't just be me finding the time!!

EDIT: I should mention that I have great short term memory for GT, but the second time the question comes around (usually 10 days after first seeing it after banking the card), I almost invaraibly have to rank the card a 2. GT then gives me that same question every 1-2 days until I build it back up to a 4/5. So I guess I was seeing a lot of questions repeatedly, which I found very helpful (both for boards studying and for class studying). By the time exams rolled around for my classes, I felt very comfortable with the concepts/basics because of GT and could spend my focused study time on the more detailed, class-specific things.

I am interested in your study strategy, how long would you say you prep for an hour lecture before it happens? Do you read through the lecture and try to learn it all (for example, spend about an hour before class on it)? I thought about trying to do this at one point but figured it may be better to see what the lecturer emphasizes or how well they expand on their points.

Did you do this for path or for all your courses?

 

[ipizzy]

I am interested in your study strategy, how long would you say you prep for an hour lecture before it happens? Do you read through the lecture and try to learn it all (for example, spend about an hour before class on it)? I thought about trying to do this at one point but figured it may be better to see what the lecturer emphasizes or how well they expand on their points.

Did you do this for path or for all your courses?

Since I'm not sure this would be of general interest to the GT thread, I sent you a more detailed PM. In short, it depends on the class

 

[FIREitUP]

I found great use for Gunnertraining in terms of Biochemistry and Embryology however I was wondering what everyone thoughts were on the cardiology section of Gunner?

meh, it's not great IMO. FA is just okay as well. Personally I like using Costanzo's Physio Book.

 

[Bernoull]

Pathoma and GT are my mainstays. I've cut back on annotating FA and have been using GT more. I listen to Goljan in the gym and drive to school.

I'm pretty much doing the same, (GT, Pathoma, Goljan audio). I'm also doing RR path along with class. For FA I'm just annotating concepts that I get wrong from Kaplan Qbank.

I'm sprinkling in BRS physio, Embryo & Anatomy based on the block I'm doing in school. I'm gonna let my classes slide a bit, I plan to do well enough to comfortably pass them but I'd rather spend the extra time on boards stuff bcos i only get 4 wks dedicated study time which I want to spend mostly on Uworld/FA/light GT...

 

[Bernoull]

I have a mid april Step1 and I am 95% banked, ~55% mastered (due to my habit of rating things I know as a 4 instead of a 5 to see them again before my test = lower mastery level). Goal is to be at 100% banked by the end of the week, then there's about 100 cards with additional questions I want to add.

In addition to class materials (very detailed, not as high yield), I have been studying First aid (it's easy after doing GT), BRS physio, Goljan audio lectures, and doing Kaplan Qbank questions along with classes, goal is to be done with them by dedicated study time. I've read through some RR path lectures, but find it too dense on details and I just don't retain much. His lectures don't cover everything in the book, but do a much better job explaining mechanisms and understanding.

By 7 weeks before the test (dedicated study time), I want to have done first aid 1x, BRS physio 1x, Goljan lectures 2x, Kaplan Qbank 1x, and all of GT.

By end of study time I want to have First aid ?x (? being as high as possible), Qbank and Uworld 2x each (+ incorrects again), BRS physio 2x, Goljain 3x, and GT as mastered as possible.

It's kind of an intense plan and studying for class has gone by the wayside a bit, but I'm shooting for a compétitive surgical specialty and really need that score.

Thanks!
Ur plan sounds solid.

What's the sequence in which you have you been doing GT, FA, BRS physio & Qbank? Are u doing it by systems ( for instance FA CV; BRS physio CV; GT CV; Qbank CV)?

 

[dr seuss]

Bottom line...I remain doubtful about this program's feasibility for someone who MUST attend class from 8am to 4pm everyday. The people here lauding GT have optional attendance and often don't go to class. They watch their lectures at home at 1.5-2x speed and can afford the extra time.

But if you have mandatory attendance..and you can only start studying @ 4-5pm I don't see how you would have the time to stay current on both your daily lectures and the flashcards on a daily basis. Maybe on a light day here and there, but most likely not consistently. Please prove me wrong.

Most people don't have to attend class from 8-4 everyday. If I did I would sit in the back and read, study powerpoints, or do GT.

I only had one block that required class everyday and it was miserable. I feel bad for the people who go to a school that makes you come to every lecture.

 

[WarriorMD]

Switched to comprehensive mode for anatomy and wowww is it detailed.

I racked up 100 questions on my first day after banking cards, kind of worried about how quick this is going to accumulate.

GT definitely goes beyond the scope of FA for Gross Anat.

 

[DoctwoB]

Thanks!
Ur plan sounds solid.

What's the sequence in which you have you been doing GT, FA, BRS physio & Qbank? Are u doing it by systems ( for instance FA CV; BRS physio CV; GT CV; Qbank CV)?

My rough order will be something like 1. BRS physio, which is a great book for getting a basic understanding of material. 2. add all GT 3. FA (similar content to GT 4. Goljan lectures 5. Qbank (right before the test as review.

 

[CaliMedKid]

Don't know if you guys follow their Facebook site or not, but GT just posted an awesome short video clip about DNA viruses with a pretty helpful mnemonic. I hope they can get this onto the actual flashcards soon!!

https://www.facebook.com/gunnertraining

 

[dragon529]

2 questions from a MS1 who's on the fence for GT..

1. We're systems based and went through musculoskel, head and neck, cardio & respiratory and now on GI. Would it be good to start now or wait till summer when I have endocrine and neuro under my belt?
2. Are most of you guys on the monthly prescription or bought out 1 or 2 years?

 

[Jack is Back]

2 questions from a MS1 who's on the fence for GT..

1. We're systems based and went through musculoskel, head and neck, cardio & respiratory and now on GI. Would it be good to start now or wait till summer when I have endocrine and neuro under my belt?
2. Are most of you guys on the monthly prescription or bought out 1 or 2 years?

Basically, do you have an extra hour or so you can spend every day consistently? If you can, it is very valuable. I bought a subscription for until Step 1 but may hold off a bit until summer, or just maintain until summer. I'm not in a P/F school, and am not super efficient yet.

It is easier to add cards as you go obviously, because you may have to relearn by summer but you need the time everyday.

 

[hrain]

Hey guys,

Sorry for the newb question, but I've just started GT and I'm still getting used to it. I just want to make sure...when you talk about "banking" questions, you just mean reading through them, doing the quizzes on them, and having the quiz questions added to your review days, right? There's not another way to physically "bank" them in any way?

Thanks!

 

[Brachiocephalic]

Pathoma and GT are my mainstays. I've cut back on annotating FA and have been using GT more. I listen to Goljan in the gym and drive to school.

do you use RR goljan much? I've found pathoma to be really good, his explanation of chapter 1, 2, and 3 were amazing. I'll never forget neutrophil chemotaxis = C5a IL8 LTB4 and bacterial products.

I haven't listened to goljan or read RR yet except for a couple of his hemonc lectures. My step exam is in about 5-6 months, but I have to study really hard for school path/pharm finals, should I even bother with RR Goljan?

 

[ThrusH]

Sorry for the newb question, but I've just started GT and I'm still getting used to it. I just want to make sure...when you talk about "banking" questions, you just mean reading through them, doing the quizzes on them, and having the quiz questions added to your review days, right? There's not another way to physically "bank" them in any way?

This has been my understanding after using GT for 2 months. After reading through the cards, you are adding the associated cards to your flashcard "bank," prompting you to review them at spaced intervals based on your retention and knowledge.

 

[hrain]

Awesome, thanks!

 

[Alvarez13]

do you use RR goljan much? I've found pathoma to be really good, his explanation of chapter 1, 2, and 3 were amazing. I'll never forget neutrophil chemotaxis = C5a IL8 LTB4 and bacterial products.

I haven't listened to goljan or read RR yet except for a couple of his hemonc lectures. My step exam is in about 5-6 months, but I have to study really hard for school path/pharm finals, should I even bother with RR Goljan?

I have attention span issues. GT is active and Pathoma is quick and to the point. I did chapters 1-4 in RR and found that I keep falling asleep and couldn't retain any info. It wasn't for me. I have a 30 min drive to class each way, so I pop Goljan in for "fun" and to grab another perspective.

If your short on time Uworld Qbank and Pathoma and absolute musts.For the rest of the info, go FA and GT. GT takes more effort, but I think you get more out of it.

 

[amaprez]

Have you guys seen GT's LinkedIN page? Apparently after they conquer medical education they plan on taking over law, dental, nursing & K-12 education Talk about ambitious!

http://www.linkedin.com/company/gunner-training?trk=ppro_cprof

"To better serve medical students and position Firecracker for rapid expansion to other areas, we have partnered with leading firms such as $9B publishing giant Wolters Kluwer. We will expand first within healthcare (e.g. dental, nursing), then to other higher education and professional markets (e.g. law, finance) and later to high school, secondary and primary school markets. Firecracker's team is comprised of startup veterans, engineers and educators with degrees from Harvard, Yale and Princeton."

Apparently their corporate name is "Firecracker" 😕 Who knew?

 

[islandCrazy]

While its ambitious they do have a really great product, however for now they should just focus on USMLE 2CK! Hope its ready for August 2012!

 

[Chirurg]

While its ambitious they do have a really great product, however for now they should just focus on USMLE 2CK! Hope its ready for August 2012!

This.
think about it, everyone who used them for step1 will gladly pay for step2.
it wouldnt make sense to ignore that potential from a business point of view.

 

[amaprez]

This.
think about it, everyone who used them for step1 will gladly pay for step2.
it wouldnt make sense to ignore that potential from a business point of view.

Actually I think they're going to incorporate it into the same product. You'll just have a switch where you can toggle "emphasize Step1 material" or "emphasize Step2 material." I like this idea, because unlike a Qbank, it wouldn't make sense to have two different subscriptions.

 

[CatFactorial]

Actually I think they're going to incorporate it into the same product. You'll just have a switch where you can toggle "emphasize Step1 material" or "emphasize Step2 material." I like this idea, because unlike a Qbank, it wouldn't make sense to have two different subscriptions.

Did you read that somewhere?

 

[amaprez]

Did you read that somewhere?

http://gunnertraining.uservoice.com/forums/116153-feature-requests/suggestions/2544738-step-2-idea

 

[Alvarez13]

http://gunnertraining.uservoice.com/forums/116153-feature-requests/suggestions/2544738-step-2-idea

*Drools*

 

[Nasrudin]

Did they give any release dates? Projections?

 

[Jack is Back]

Hey guys, this is a "what would you do?" scenario.

I am in 1st year and I feel like I'm on the edge of NH/H in my courses. GT is taking a huge chunk of time, like 1-2 hrs a day and I'm not a fast studier. So, I'm wondering if I should just put GT on hold until summer so that I can probably get a few H's instead of all P's. Then ramp back up during summer.

Then 2nd year, I know I will have the same issue. So is it better for me to keep banking GT throughout 2nd year and get mostly P's? I'm looking at some fairly competitive specialties and probably need 240+ (250+ would be nice!).

 

[CatFactorial]

Hey guys, this is a "what would you do?" scenario.

I am in 1st year and I feel like I'm on the edge of NH/H in my courses. GT is taking a huge chunk of time, like 1-2 hrs a day and I'm not a fast studier. So, I'm wondering if I should just put GT on hold until summer so that I can probably get a few H's instead of all P's. Then ramp back up during summer.

Then 2nd year, I know I will have the same issue. So is it better for me to keep banking GT throughout 2nd year and get mostly P's? I'm looking at some fairly competitive specialties and probably need 240+ (250+ would be nice!).

Focus on just Ps both M1 and M2. Better to bank aggressively.

 

[ipizzy]

I think its better to get the most you can out of your classes, actually...not for the purpose of getting H grades, but to understand the concepts. If you have solid foundations then reasoning your way through the answer choices for step 1 Qbanks/practice tests (even if you explicitly don't know the answer) can be done in a lot of cases. Haven't taken the real thing yet though, so I can't comment on that.

However, if all that extra studying for your classes is for a few percentage points so you can out-gun your classmates, maybe that isn't the best use of time either. If you think you are getting the most from getting Ps and using GT, then do that.

 

[gravitywave]

Hey guys, this is a "what would you do?" scenario.

I am in 1st year and I feel like I'm on the edge of NH/H in my courses. GT is taking a huge chunk of time, like 1-2 hrs a day and I'm not a fast studier. So, I'm wondering if I should just put GT on hold until summer so that I can probably get a few H's instead of all P's. Then ramp back up during summer.

Then 2nd year, I know I will have the same issue. So is it better for me to keep banking GT throughout 2nd year and get mostly P's? I'm looking at some fairly competitive specialties and probably need 240+ (250+ would be nice!).

do a trial run. take a break from GT for a block. see if your grades come up to where you want them. go from there.

I did this and it turned out that GT was the better investment. it's not like the last five points to H is anything other than minutiae that you will forget two days after the exam no matter what you do.

 

[Nasrudin]

do a trial run. take a break from GT for a block. see if your grades come up to where you want them. go from there.

I did this and it turned out that GT was the better investment. it's not like the last five points to H is anything other than minutiae that you will forget two days after the exam no matter what you do.

I reached the same conclusion.

Getting the board score you desire can be accomplished with B-52's and napalming the jungle into oblivion--studying all lecture material plus board materials. And who knows that might get you more kills.

Or you could take it down with finesse. Evil intelligence. And wicked efficiency. And leave yourself with more room to "do you player." (I prefer slang that is old enough to be dated but not old enough to be cool again)

GT is the player card.

If your devout Protestant soul can't handle the independence. Go back to class and run with the flock.

No shame in that. There is a hundred years of tradition that has medical students gathering around a knowledgeable medical scientist teacher guru type. It's obviously efficacious.

But with tools like the GT and and pathoma. Brains saturated with media. That find the old methods slow and boring. Who want to work independently. Even as a minority. We now have the means to medically educate ourselves.

The choices are yours.

 

[Jack is Back]

I reached the same conclusion.

Getting the board score you desire can be accomplished with B-52's and napalming the jungle into oblivion--studying all lecture material plus board materials. And who knows that might get you more kills.

Or you could take it down with finesse. Evil intelligence. And wicked efficiency. And leave yourself with more room to "do you player." (I prefer slang that is old enough to be dated but not old enough to be cool again)

GT is the player card.

If your devout Protestant soul can't handle the independence. Go back to class and run with the flock.

No shame in that. There is a hundred years of tradition that has medical students gathering around a knowledgeable medical scientist teacher guru type. It's obviously efficacious.

But with tools like the GT and and pathoma. Brains saturated with media. That find the old methods slow and boring. Who want to work independently. Even as a minority. We now have the means to medically educate ourselves.

The choices are yours.

Would doing Pathoma over the summer before M2 be good to lay a foundation?


Thanks for the advice everyone, I'm sure you guys are right. I think I will try to honor a class or maybe two, then just focus on GT + P's for the rest.

 

[Nasrudin]

Would doing Pathoma over the summer before M2 be good to lay a foundation?


Thanks for the advice everyone, I'm sure you guys are right. I think I will try to honor a class or maybe two, then just focus on GT + P's for the rest.

Sure. You could buy it 1 year from your test date and buy the year subscription. And start with the basic pathology section. And maybe some USMLE power sections like cardio and respiratory.

But over the summer I--if I had the chance to redo me--would have just polished up and pounded out some of the pure memorization games like biochem micro anatomy immuno embryo and the basic pharm sections. Maybe review some physiology with videos if you can afford that too. I'm a big fan of Kaplan physiology pharmacology and antomy and embryo videos. I used them at the beginning of each of our system based pathology units. It helps me move through GT more quickly when I prime the subjects,

GT is cold straight to the facts. So I use kaplan like a professional fluffer to get me up before the cameras roll and it's time to lay serious pipe.


But look it's your choice. If you are going for top flight specialties maybe honoring is more important. wtf do I know.

 

[amaprez]

I wonder what will happen if everyone changes their avatar to a black & white picture of an animal in a suit?

 

[Nasrudin]

Why do people love putting black & white pictures of animals dressed in tuxedos as their SDN avatars? (see the two posts above) Is this some trend I'm not aware of? Should I find a picture of an elephant in a suit? Please advise!

I didn't notice. But we are indeed both debonaire animal aficiondados.

Nice elephant.

 

[BionH]

I *love* gunner training, and highly recommend it. One thing I really want badly is a mobile version or an app. I hope they do very well, because it really is a great service.

 

[dragon529]

I think some people mentioned that they do GT on their iPad on the go? That could be a nice option.

 

[Sailor Senshi Dermystify]

I have a question about using Gunner Training for the MCAT.

Gunner Training is basically a prep program that uses solely flashcards, correct? So, I just go to the subject I would like to study and understand the flashcards that pertain to that topic, right? How about the quizzes and the exams how do I work that feature? I am pretty new to GT, so I have NO IDEA on how to work these features ^_^.

Thanks