Hands on experience in a clinical setting.. is this a bad thing?

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This might be a really dumb and small question but...

For one of my clinical experiences where I was in a clinic, I did the usual and took vitals, performed routine lab tests (urinalysis, blood glucose tests, etc.) which doesn't seem to be an issue. For my time in a hospital though, I have been allowed to clean and dress wounds... the nurse first asks the patient if it is okay that I do it, and the whole time the nurse is directing me on what to do and never leaves my side (e.g. wipe it down with saline, apply antimicrobial cream, put gauze on it, wrap it up with an ace bandage). I saw somewhere that if you do stuff like this it looks really bad because you haven't been trained to do it. Does that apply here and should I avoid mentioning that at all during interviews if they ask what I did in this department?

The reason why I am bringing it up here is because I saw in a "volunteering abroad" post that it looks really bad to say that you did some procedures because it looks like you are taking advantage of those who don't know any better. I'm not gonna lie but I did perform a few gynecological exams while abroad.. all while being directed by an OB/GYN, but I would never mention it in an interview. I didn't know better at the time that this was a bad thing.. I was just really excited that the OB/GYN let me do it! The woundcare thing is what I am really unsure about.
 
I'm not gonna lie but I did perform a few gynecological exams while abroad..

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This might be a really dumb and small question but...

For one of my clinical experiences where I was in a clinic, I did the usual and took vitals, performed routine lab tests (urinalysis, blood glucose tests, etc.) which doesn't seem to be an issue. For my time in a hospital though, I have been allowed to clean and dress wounds... the nurse first asks the patient if it is okay that I do it, and the whole time the nurse is directing me on what to do and never leaves my side (e.g. wipe it down with saline, apply antimicrobial cream, put gauze on it, wrap it up with an ace bandage). I saw somewhere that if you do stuff like this it looks really bad because you haven't been trained to do it. Does that apply here and should I avoid mentioning that at all during interviews if they ask what I did in this department?

The reason why I am bringing it up here is because I saw in a "volunteering abroad" post that it looks really bad to say that you did some procedures because it looks like you are taking advantage of those who don't know any better. I'm not gonna lie but I did perform a few gynecological exams while abroad.. all while being directed by an OB/GYN, but I would never mention it in an interview. I didn't know better at the time that this was a bad thing.. I was just really excited that the OB/GYN let me do it! The woundcare thing is what I am really unsure about.

I wouldn't mention it at all.
 
Don't be that specific, or else adcom members that read your stuff, especially women may make the face shown above and have a bad taste in their mouth about you.... unless you can create a valid reason for why someone like you did a gyno exam, like "the doctor had a heart attack mid-procedure, and this women needed her exam!" You'll need to be more vague about the specifics or find a way to spin it where you weren't so in control.
 
Well I seem to disagree with everyone. I would be proud to say I did those things. I think it's great experience but what do I know
 
I'd like to add that the wound thing is fine. I've done stuff before that was probably not legal as a volunteer but I was being managed by a practitioner. Just paint it in a way that makes it not look reckless or inappropriate. 🙂
 
This might be a really dumb and small question but...

For one of my clinical experiences where I was in a clinic, I did the usual and took vitals, performed routine lab tests (urinalysis, blood glucose tests, etc.) which doesn't seem to be an issue. For my time in a hospital though, I have been allowed to clean and dress wounds... the nurse first asks the patient if it is okay that I do it, and the whole time the nurse is directing me on what to do and never leaves my side (e.g. wipe it down with saline, apply antimicrobial cream, put gauze on it, wrap it up with an ace bandage). I saw somewhere that if you do stuff like this it looks really bad because you haven't been trained to do it. Does that apply here and should I avoid mentioning that at all during interviews if they ask what I did in this department?

The reason why I am bringing it up here is because I saw in a "volunteering abroad" post that it looks really bad to say that you did some procedures because it looks like you are taking advantage of those who don't know any better. I'm not gonna lie but I did perform a few gynecological exams while abroad.. all while being directed by an OB/GYN, but I would never mention it in an interview. I didn't know better at the time that this was a bad thing.. I was just really excited that the OB/GYN let me do it! The woundcare thing is what I am really unsure about.

Be very careful about mentioning this if you're not technically qualified to do it. Small things like cleaning and dressing a wound is no big deal, but a gyn exam might be a bridge too far.
 
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=13827450

If you read through this thread, you'll see that not all adcoms see "volunteering abroad" as a bad thing. However, like others said, I wouldn't go too specific. Maybe I would say, "I assisted an OB/GYN in cleaning and dressing wounds under his/her supervision, etc etc." but not gyn exams.
 
Getting into medical school doesn't require you to be a doctor already, though some people believe that notion. I would not mention these things. Think about it, if you had to ask this on a forum, then you're clearly questioning things in your own mind. Wouldn't an ADCOM do the same?

Also if you were allowed to do the stuff you mentioned here domestically in a free clinic or something, it will probably be okay. But if those were done on a volunteering abroad trip, then mentioning it is a very bad idea. It's kind of weird how there is a double standard, but it's there. As most have mentioned, don't say anything about this to ADCOMs.
 
Thanks guys for your responses! like I mentioned before, I would never mention the gyn exam stuff but I was just confused whether or not the woundcare stuff is pushing it. I wasn't planning on bringing it up to adcoms or anythig, I was just wondering if an interviewer said, "oh hey, I see on your app you rotated through woundcare. what kind of stuff did you do there?" I could say that I assisted with cleaning and dressing wounds without them frowning down on it. Thanks guys!
 
Thanks guys for your responses! like I mentioned before, I would never mention the gyn exam stuff but I was just confused whether or not the woundcare stuff is pushing it. I wasn't planning on bringing it up to adcoms or anythig, I was just wondering if an interviewer said, "oh hey, I see on your app you rotated through woundcare. what kind of stuff did you do there?" I could say that I assisted with cleaning and dressing wounds without them frowning down on it. Thanks guys!

Good idea. This should work well. 👍

In fact, since the wound care was done at a free clinic under supervision, you should probably go ahead and mention it since most people will agree that it's a "great" experience. If you did this very SAME thing abroad, you would never hear the end of how unethical you are! 🙄

Emphasizing the free clinic stuff and being mum about the gynecological exams abroad would help you out quite a bit.
 
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