Harvard psych programs...diplomas

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So Harvard has 4 psych programs: Cambridge, Longwood, MGH, and South Shore

However, when you graduate, do they all share the same diploma? Or do the diplomas somehow indicate which program you went to.

If anyone graduated from one of them, or attends one, and could chime in that would be helpful.

 

[st2205]

I remember this very topic coming up a few years ago but I'm not motivated enough to go digging through it. The biggest highlight that I remember was someone said you could get a Harvard coffee mug that you hold up everyone you mention your training. Of all the stuff that was said, that's what stuck.

 

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I remember this very topic coming up a few years ago but I'm not motivated enough to go digging through it. The biggest highlight that I remember was someone said you could get a Harvard coffee mug that you hold up everyone you mention your training. Of all the stuff that was said, that's what stuck.

I saw the thread you're referring to. As with many questions asked on SDN, it was never answered.

Cheers.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

The diplomas are different. I've seen some of them.

 

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The diplomas are different. I've seen some of them.

Interesting. In what manner? What do they look like?

 

[twright]

So Harvard has 4 psych programs: Cambridge, Longwood, MGH, and South Shore

However, when you graduate, do they all share the same diploma? Or do the diplomas somehow indicate which program you went to.

If anyone graduated from one of them, or attends one, and could chime in that would be helpful.

On your CV you would simply state the name of the program you graduated from.
e.g.
Longwood
MGH
South Shore
Cambridge

The only programs that contain the word 'Harvard' in the title are Longwood and South Shore.

 

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On your CV you would simply state the name of the program you graduated from.
e.g.
Longwood
MGH
South Shore
Cambridge

The only programs that contain the word 'Harvard' in the title are Longwood and South Shore.

Bro, I'm not asking what to put on your CV. I'm asking what the diplomas look like.

 

[psychphan]

I would be much more concerned with the education and training I received than what's on the Diploma.

 

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I would be much more concerned with the education and training I received than what's on the Diploma.

And so it begins. This is what all SDN threads devolve into. Thanks friend, I'm not a *****. However, that wasn't my question.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Interesting. In what manner? What do they look like?

I don't know -- they look like diplomas, but they state whatever spot you trained at instead of just saying Harvard. Everyone in the academic world knows there's a difference between the different Harvard programs anyway. They're not going to see your South Shore diploma and think you trained at MGH. Of course, patients probably have no clue so Harvard mentioned anywhere is a good thing.

Actually and the two I've seen have been from MGH and Longwood (we don't have any Cambridge or South Shore grads on faculty here).

 

[ratched]

The various programs do not give identical diplomas. All say the words, "Harvard Medical School" and have the "veritas" seal (see mug above), but the diploma also lists the particular training hospital(s) and displays the hospitals' insignias. That is to say, the Cambridge Health Alliance insignia is different than the Mass General insignia is different than the Beth Israel Deaconess insignia, etc...

 

[san2]

Harvard Longwood is one of the most competitive psych programs in the country. Harvard Southshore is filled with carrib grads. So obviously, there will be a differentiation both in diploma, quality of education, and fellowship/job prospects coming out of residency

 

[snarfer]

Harvard Longwood is one of the most competitive psych programs in the country. Harvard Southshore is filled with carrib grads. So obviously, there will be a differentiation both in diploma, quality of education, and fellowship/job prospects coming out of residency

I've worked with several psychiatrists who trained at the 4 harvard programs over the years. They all were well trained and smart. Perhaps a bit more Cluster B-ish with a couple of the mgh, cambridge folks but this is more likely their personalities and by no mean a reflection of the medical schools or residency programs from which they graduated.

 

[shan564]

FWIW, if you look at the "Alumni" page on the HSS website, you'll see that many of them went on to fellowships at the other Harvard programs. Considering that these residents actually rotate at other Harvard hospitals, I think it's fair to say that MGH/Longwood/CHA have found many of them to be up to their standards.

But that aside, this thread isn't about whether HSS is in the same class as MGH/Longwood/CHA. That's a separate debate. The OP was simply asking if anybody knows what the diploma will say on it. And I think that question has been answered. So there's no need to start bashing HSS or the OP for asking the question.

 

[twright]

FWIW, if you look at the "Alumni" page on the HSS website, you'll see that many of them went on to fellowships at the other Harvard programs. Considering that these students actually rotate at other Harvard hospitals, I think it's fair to say that MGH/Longwood/CHA have found many of them to be up to their standards.

But that aside, this thread isn't about whether HSS is in the same class as MGH/Longwood/CHA. That's a separate debate. The OP was simply asking if anybody knows what the diploma will say on it. And I think that question has been answered. So there's no need to start bashing HSS or the OP for asking the question.

The OP wasn't "simply asking". I can read minds, even on the Internet. And the OP was basically sniffing around the question of equivalence -- or the perception of equivalence -- between the 4 programs. Seems to me that HSS-bashing indirectly answers the indirectly posed question and is therefore fair game.

 

[shan564]

The OP wasn't "simply asking". I can read minds, even on the Internet. And the OP was basically sniffing around the question of equivalence -- or the perception of equivalence -- between the 4 programs. Seems to me that HSS-bashing indirectly answers the indirectly posed question and is therefore fair game.

Ha... your logic is flawless.

 

[mass1]

To answer the OP, yes the diplomas at HSS say HSS and HMS as others have stated above.

In terms of training, I cannot speak for the other programs. However, I think the training at HSS is very strong. We rotate through various sites and experience different hospital systems and patient populations, we have full access to Harvard resources, we have dedicated faculty, and research opportunity here is abundant. It is unfortunate that every year there is a thread denouncing HSS. To me, it is more important to focus on how the training you will receive can help you become a better psychiatrist for your patients as opposed to the name/reputation of your program. HSS is a great program filled with down to earth and highly motivated individuals, and it provides all the tools and opportunity to help one reach his/her goals.