Has anyone used Judy Colwell's service

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Wow. 150 per hour? That's expensive. Your better off just buying a med school admissions book or speaking with your pre-med advisor IMO. Even if you didn't have a pre-med advisor, med school admissions books have all the info you need. You can usually check one out of your local library for free too. Regarding practice interviews, that's something that you can do with a friend or at the career center at your college.
 
She charges to send e-mail...150 an hour and she bills 15 minutes for an e-mail so that's about...oh...almost 40 bucks an e-mail. Is she serious? I second the suggestion above that you save your money and talk to pre-med counslers or even others who have been through the process. That's what SDN is for. So you don't have to pay 150 an hour for advice. As for the mock interviews, you can get friends to ask you the questions they ask on the interviews and quite frankly, if you just think about your answers a bit before you head off for an interview, you should do fine.
 
Well, buyer beware I guess. I think that SDN offers everything you might need to know - and more - for free. Plus, we're a neat bunch of people. 🙂
 
im sure there are some rich folks that think she might give them the edge that would use her =o. Anything she says can probably be found here, but whatever if you have the money use it i guess.
 
Originally posted by CanIMakeIt
Hi All

I was wondering if any of you used services offered by Judy Colwell for your med school journey? Any personal experiences are welcome. If you did, did you find it worth the money?

www.judycolwell.com

thanks

rip off. 😡
 
Sounds like a way to take advantage of (ie: cash in on) applicant insecurity. I second the "rip off" vote.

It reminds me of people who work as "practice consultants" for new doctors to help them start up a new medical practice. They charge, oh, about $300 an hour. Hiring a good experienced office manager for $18 bucks an hour gets you more and a your have a long term employee to boot. Just a warning for the future.......
 
Judy Colwell has given lots of great advice through the Old Premeds web site, but I don't know anything about her consulting services.

I did pay a premed advisor last year (someone else), because I had a unique situation and wanted a frank assessment of my application(believe it or not, I was not going to get very good advice on SDN). That ended up being the single most discouraging experience of my whole application process, and it cost me $300 to be encouraged to apply to DO and foreign med schools if I wanted to get in anywhere. It was a total waste of money. I believe the problem is that many advisors want to have a high success rate for their clients, so they are going to push you towards the safest option.

I think such a person might offer good services, but you should find out if they have experience with people in your particular situation, and exactly what they think they can offer.

As far as charging for e-mail, I think that's completely reasonable. Any decent consultant in any field would do that, and it would be considered perfectly acceptable for them to do so. How many of us are going to give away our time as doctors?
 
Originally posted by MeowMix
How many of us are going to give away our time as doctors?

Thre are some... just ask around.

If anyone wants an evaluation of their application, then feel free to PM any of the moderators, most are currently in dental, medical school, or in residency.

The advice given here is free and can be invaluable. Don't pay the consultants. It's a complete waste of money.

Good luck!
 
i've learned so much in a year on SDN, it's not even funny. no way would i pay anyone for advice, i'll just collect it here for free and try to "pay it forward" when i feel qualified to do so.
 
Originally posted by CanIMakeIt
Hi All

I was wondering if any of you used services offered by Judy Colwell for your med school journey? Any personal experiences are welcome. If you did, did you find it worth the money?

www.judycolwell.com

thanks

There is a sucker born every minute but it seems like pre-med suckers are born every second.

What a total waste of money.
 
I did a mock interview with Judy Colwell. I found her very helpful. I am a non-traditional applicant and have been out of school for a few years. I've been on lots of job interviews before, but I didn't want my first real med school interview to be "practice".

For me it was worth the $150. She gave me great advice and feedback that I didn't get anywhere else. Her comments were based on looking at my application in detail, and talking with me in person for over over an hour. You can't get that from SDN (which is a terrific resource, by the way!)

Maybe if your school offers a similar service for free, it wouldn't be worth it. But the school I went to for post-bacc classes wasn't that helpful.
 
I second Dr. Doan's suggestion.

I am only a first year, but I am 35 and have had my fair share of life experience (as well as the experience of getting accepted to medical school as a nontrad student). I would be happy to "consult' with any one who would like some free application advice.

SDN has been invaluable to me ... any help I can give to others would be a nice way to a little back.

Deirdre
 
wow, thats freakin hilarious. Many pre-meds, and people who have been goin thru this for yrs, like myself can easily offer free advice on SDN. Many deans of admission will be willing to talk to u for free, $150/hr, and to think many probably pay this, i think i need to change professions 🙂


http://www.judycolwell.com/fees.html

WOW!!!!!!!😱 😱 😱 +pity+ +pity+ +pity+
 
Originally posted by lotanna
wow, thats freakin gilarious. Many pre-meds, and people who have been goin thru this for yrs, like myself can easily offer free advice on SDN. Many deans of admission will be willing to talk to u for free, $150/hr, and to think many probably pay this, i think i need to change professions 🙂


http://www.judycolwell.com/fees.html

WOW!!!!!!!😱 😱 😱 +pity+ +pity+ +pity+


Seriously, I love how she tries to compare her fees to the cost of applying, stating that her services are "a drop in the bucket" compared to what people spend to apply. I'm thinking of a filet mignon dinner on the beach the night before taking the MCAT would do me better than employing her, for the same price.
 
Originally posted by Brickhouse
Seriously, I love how she tries to compare her fees to the cost of applying, stating that her services are "a drop in the bucket" compared to what people spend to apply. I'm thinking of a filet mignon dinner on the beach the night before taking the MCAT would do me better than employing her, for the same price.

I know I was laughin real hard at that.
But pretty lucrative, think about it, say at the mere minimum she gets 10students a month, who do the average she requires of like 4-5hrs, thats about $600-$750/person, which is like $6000-$7500 for all 10!!! 😱

Plus even with her credentials, she isnt even as qualified as most deans of admissions that I know about.
I know she'll probably read this, and i could care less, cause I'm in and didnt have to pay a dime to any rip off agency like hers!!! :laugh:

I mean if paying the amount guaranteed a person admission then we are talking 😀
 
Hello,

I am a non-trad student who has used Judy twice. I decided to use her for two situations. I found her extremely helpful. She pointed out things on my resume/ experience that neither of my pre-med advisors noticed. They kept saying, "just do what you want." She, however, told me what med schools wanted to see, instead of just "doing what I wanted." This, I truly feel, has turned my application around for the better, and now my pre-med advisors comment on what a strong applicant I've become because of her advice. She's good for asking really nitpicky details to, or details you don't want to ask adcoms directly, for fear of how they'd perceive you.

I think she's really good for non-trads who have an eclectic background and need help pulling a theme together for their application. She's also good when your pre-med advisors don't have much experience with people in your situation (such as mine with several totally unrelated work/school experiences.) She's also good at bluntly telling you what MCAT scores and GPAs you need to get into the schools you want.

The second time I used her was when I was trying to make a major pre-med related decision, and my pre-med advisors weren't helping me make it. She gave me facts that neither of my pre-med advisors knew, facts that helped me make the decision.

I know she's expensive and I'm a self-supporting student who paid her fees out of my own, hard-earned money, but she was worth it. I'll probably use her again one more time for a mock interview so I can polish my reason for leaving my previous career. My pre-med advisors don't seem to have much experience with this, and I need expert advice in this regard.

Feel free to PM me if you have further questions.

-Tofurkey
 
Originally posted by Tofurkey

She's also good at bluntly telling you what MCAT scores and GPAs you need to get into the schools you want.

I'm not saying that Judy's services are not helpful. I'm pointing out the fact that most of her information can be obtained from SDN users, pre-meds, residents, and physicians, who frequently post on this board. In regards to interview practice, you can ask any professor who interview to help you with this.

Most information, such MCAT scores and GPAs for each school, can also be obtained from published information, such as the AMCAS MSAR:
http://services.aamc.org/AAMC_Store/itemDetail.cfm?store=PUBLICATIONS&item=ARA4&category=

If you have no one else to help with a mock interview, then I suppose you can resort to a paid consultant. However, I can't believe there is no one to help you considering that you've likely worked with several physicians during your journey to becoming a physician. Perhaps I was just lucky and assertive enough ask people for help. You'd be surprised how many people will help if you ask them.

Good luck, and I hope you achieve your goals! 🙂
 
I have used services from a private counsellor that has similar background to Judy Colwel (Former admission staff at med school and a counselling background). I agree that they are most useful in giving you very detailed advices.

It's true that SDN-ers can contribute a lot, but sometimes when you post a thread, it's hard to tell what's rumor and what's truth, especially when it comes to uncommon stuff.

For me it was about what to pay attention to as an international applicant. I find it most helpful to have someone read over my primary and secondary essays and make sure that I portray what I wanna portray. (See friends and family members don't really know what to look for).

The interview practice was a bit less helpful to me, but my counselor did bring up good questions for me to think about (Why not Loma Linda when you're SDA? Why not go back to Australia for med school when you're a citizen there? etc.)

And the result: 14 interviews out of 20 schools I applied to. 4 acceptances so far.
 
This is hilarious. You mean to tell me that this lady charges $150 a friggin hour to help get into medschool? I mean, sure... the lady probably knows her stuff, but seriously? I'm just going to find all the resources I can get my hands on at school, through ppl who have actually gone through the process (like here on SDN), and anyone else willing to help... FOR FREE. That's ridiculous, as if the application cycle isn't going to already suck me dry of all the money I don't have to begin with.
 
She's a waste money. If you spent money on her, you shouldn't be in medical school. Because that's not critical thinking. That's not wise. And we need doctors that can think. If you want to give your money away, think charities, think scholarships for underserved kids, and that's something meaningful to talk about during your interviews....your involvement with underserved communities, time, effort.

SOmeone wrote that she tells you about how your GPA and MCAT will be viewed by certain schools. First of all, she might have some insight as to how Stanford used to view those numbers. How long has it been since she's been there. But how does she know about any other school? All schools are different. Lets be honest we can tell if our numbers are competitive. Also numbers aren't everything.

Don't be such suckers.
 
I said and still say again not freakin worth it. I know me personally as a reapplicant and due to my association with my med schl has enough info, which i've passed on for free, that have helped friends with the MCAT, application process, post bac, and get into med schl.
How about i had dean of admissions read my application and essay for FREE b4 applying, so like i said not freakin worth it. Y'all need to use and explore ur resources for real!!

I dont blame her blame all the annal pre-med students. 😀
 
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