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Hey guys, I looked through the FAQ, stickies, and googled some info, but I still have a some questions. Can someone answer/clarify some of these:

1. There are 8 Podiatry Medical Schools in the US?

2. Students who attend these schools are required to do complete a 3yr residency after the 4 year curriculum?

3. Students who attend one of these 8 schools receive a D.P.M degree (not MD/DO)?

4. These schools do not require an MCAT, DAT, or GRE ? (although having one granted it isn't terrible would benefit the applicant)

5. What's the difference between a DPM and MD/DO?

6. Do DPM/MD/DO compete for the same residencies?

7. Do DPM's have a higher chance of being accepted into a Podiatry residency because they went to a Podiatric Medical School?

much appreciated

 

[bdaddyjolley]

Hey guys, I looked through the FAQ, stickies, and googled some info, but I still have a some questions. Can someone answer/clarify some of these:

1. There are 8 Podiatry Medical Schools in the US?

2. Students who attend these schools are required to do complete a 3yr residency after the 4 year curriculum?

3. Students who attend one of these 8 schools receive a D.P.M degree (not MD/DO)?

4. These schools do not require an MCAT, DAT, or GRE ? (although having one granted it isn't terrible would benefit the applicant)

5. What's the difference between a DPM and MD/DO?

6. Do DPM/MD/DO compete for the same residencies?

7. Do DPM's have a higher chance of being accepted into a Podiatry residency because they went to a Podiatric Medical School?

much appreciated

1. There are 8 schools currently but soon there will be 9.
2. Currently students must complete a minimum of a 2 residency although the majority are 3 year residencies. Pretty soon there will be no more 2 year residencies. The length of residency determines if you are trained to do only forefoot surgery or both forefoot and rearfoot surgery.
3. Yes, students receive a DPM not MD or DO degree.
4. Every school requires an entrance exam to be taken. Some schools only accept only MCAT while others accept MCAT, DAT or GRE. The goal right now is to get to a point where only MCAT is accepted.
5. The difference between a DPM and MD/DO is mainly the scope of practice and training. DPMs receive much more training in the lower extremity which thus makes them the specialists of the LE. Regarding school, DPM students take many of the same classes as the MD/DO's but there are differences in the curriculum. For example, DPMs do not take psychiatry classes that I know of while MD/DO students do. The scope of a DPM is the lower extremity and varies state to state how much a DPM can work on. MD/DO have all parts of the body in their scope but they do need the proper residency to be competant in the specialty they choose. Basically, if you know you want to do LE you go to podiatry school and specialize early. THis is just a short answer and I'm sure others can give more info and expound on it.
6. DPMs and MD/DO do NOT compete for the same residencies. DPMs cannot do MD/DO residencies and MD/DOs cannot do DPM residencies.
7. This is answered in #6.

Hope this helps and anyone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken in what I have said.

 

[whiskers]

1. There are 8 schools currently but soon there will be 9.
2. Currently students must complete a minimum of a 2 residency although the majority are 3 year residencies. Pretty soon there will be no more 2 year residencies. The length of residency determines if you are trained to do only forefoot surgery or both forefoot and rearfoot surgery.
3. Yes, students receive a DPM not MD or DO degree.
4. Every school requires an entrance exam to be taken. Some schools only accept only MCAT while others accept MCAT, DAT or GRE. The goal right now is to get to a point where only MCAT is accepted.
5. The difference between a DPM and MD/DO is mainly the scope of practice and training. DPMs receive much more training in the lower extremity which thus makes them the specialists of the LE. Regarding school, DPM students take many of the same classes as the MD/DO's but there are differences in the curriculum. For example, DPMs do not take psychiatry classes that I know of while MD/DO students do. The scope of a DPM is the lower extremity and varies state to state how much a DPM can work on. MD/DO have all parts of the body in their scope but they do need the proper residency to be competant in the specialty they choose. Basically, if you know you want to do LE you go to podiatry school and specialize early. THis is just a short answer and I'm sure others can give more info and expound on it.
6. DPMs and MD/DO do NOT compete for the same residencies. DPMs cannot do MD/DO residencies and MD/DOs cannot do DPM residencies.
7. This is answered in #6.

Hope this helps and anyone feel free to correct me if I am mistaken in what I have said.

One correction:

DPMs are NOT "The Experts" of the lower extremety regardless of what the propaganda states. I hear this time and again and it simply is not true.

1. DPMS can not do knee or hip replacements in any state that I am aware of and some states only allow fore foot surgery for DPMs.

2. If anything we are collectively experts of soft tissue and nail disorders and maybe the forefoot.

3. Many pod schools have a curriculum that I feel is focused on podiatry and not on general medicine subjects which is a big difference between pod training and medical school training.

4. Not much in the way of federally funded research at many of the schools regardless of the claim to being the experts of the LE.

In short, I think that my pod school program is very much different than what I would have expected or would have received at a conventional US medical school and I do not feel that the two are comparable. I do not say this in a bad way, nor do I deny that some of the POD schools are mirrors of med school. .. . I just dont want you to have any false expectations.

 

[OSUDDS]

and you will never mention what that program is whiskers. why is that?

 

[whiskers]

and you will never mention what that program is whiskers. why is that?

It's taboo to brag too much/lol

 

[JEWmongous]

One correction:

some states only allow fore foot surgery for DPMs.


I don't think there is any state that only allows forefoot surgery. For example, New York has one of the most restrictive scopes of practice and you can still do rearfoot work there.

 

[AlleghenyPOD]

One correction:

DPMs are NOT "The Experts" of the lower extremety regardless of what the propaganda states. I hear this time and again and it simply is not true.

1. DPMS can not do knee or hip replacements in any state that I am aware of and some states only allow fore foot surgery for DPMs.
.

True. A proper term would be F&A (foot and ankle) specialist.

 

[narkotiks]

True. A proper term would be F&A (foot and ankle) specialist.

you and whiskers make a very cute couple--are you dating?? i can just see the two of you sipping gas station coffee (out of principle of course) and setting policy about the world as you see it. admit it, its kind of a funny picture!

 

[OSUDDS]

lol - i was thinking the same thing, but didnt want to say it

 

[whiskers]

Obviously people enter medicine for different reasons and their opinions may sometimes agree and it doesn't have any relation to degree or title.

Honestly, I feel that my ethics and moral opinions agree more with MD and DO students than with the DPM students and DPM faculty I've encountered.

On another note, I'm surprised that the mods haven't mandated a name change out of respect for the real OSU DDS in the world. I wouldn't be too happy about some poster running around with DPM nickname spouting ideas and info who wasn't a real DPM and didn't earn the title.

Most posters probably think OSUDDS is a dentist not a 1st semester pod student!

It's a good time to bring this up because we Podiatrists can not introduce ourselves in many states simply as Physicians/surgeon (maybe all of them, but I'm not sure.) We have to add the qualifier Podiatric Physicians/surgeons. A few have gotten in the hot water over it.

Start early identifying yourself as who you are to avoid the legal hot water later.

 

[OSUDDS]

im not even convinced youre in pod school whiskers

good luck with that argument

 

[AlleghenyPOD]

Obviously people enter medicine for different reasons and their opinions may sometimes agree and it doesn't have any relation to degree or title.

Honestly, I feel that my ethics and moral opinions agree more with MD and DO students than with the DPM students and DPM faculty I've encountered.

On another note, I'm surprised that the mods haven't mandated a name change out of respect for the real OSU DDS in the world. I wouldn't be too happy about some poster running around with DPM nickname spouting ideas and info who wasn't a real DPM and didn't earn the title.

Most posters probably think OSUDDS is a dentist not a 1st semester pod student!

It's a good time to bring this up because we Podiatrists can not introduce ourselves in many states simply as Physicians/surgeon (maybe all of them, but I'm not sure.) We have to add the qualifier Podiatric Physicians/surgeons. A few have gotten in the hot water over it.

Start early identifying yourself as who you are to avoid the legal hot water later.

Well said, again, Whiskers. Great form. Bravo...

 

[OSUDDS]

lol - theres a surprise out of "alleghenyPOD" who isn't a POD student at all, knows less about the profession and is a 1st semester senior in college - premed. hypocrite much?

sometimes sdn is such a joke

 

[j0ez0r]

wow. just. wow. to the both of you👎

 

[cool_vkb]

Lets not even talk abt the standards. i heard many Carribean med schools dont even require a college degree, MCAT, Physics pre-reqs,LORs or anything. i heard its as simple as buying something from a shop? You just walk in to their Office,throw some cash at their face and they say "Congratulations you are accepted". The next thing is you are transported to some island in middle of ocean with no sign of life and electricity or internet.


Is this true? iam asking an honest question. No fun intended.

 

[JEWmongous]

University of Sint Eustatius The school AlleghenyPod will go to

"Medical College Admission Test (MCAT):
Recommended but not required (the applicant should be prepared to justify omission of the MCAT). "

Don't mean to be a twink but the medical school you will be attending does not even REQUIRE a placement test. Other caribbean "MD" schools have this policy as well. Bash pod schools all you want, but at least they require a placement test (with the majority being the MCAT).

Oh snap son, now go prance around glorious Allegheny College

 

[cool_vkb]

University of Sint Eustatius The school AlleghenyPod will go to

Sint Eustaius Med school😱 now where the hell is this school. i heard St.james,xavier, ross,SGU,Saba,AUG. never heard of Saint Eustaius😕. what country is this located in? and why are you going to some unknown college. why didnt u selected Ross,SGU or Saba?

 

[OSUDDS]

University of Sint Eustatius The school AlleghenyPod will go to

"Medical College Admission Test (MCAT):
Recommended but not required (the applicant should be prepared to justify omission of the MCAT). "

Don't mean to be a twink but the medical school you will be attending does not even REQUIRE a placement test. Other caribbean "MD" schools have this policy as well. Bash pod schools all you want, but at least they require a placement test (with the majority being the MCAT).

Oh snap son, now go prance around glorious Allegheny College

don't forget to call whiskers up and whine to him so he can post some more garbage

 

[narkotiks]

lol - theres a surprise out of "alleghenyPOD" who isn't a POD student at all, knows less about the profession and is a 1st semester senior in college - premed. hypocrite much?

sometimes sdn is such a joke

come now...such talk is not becoming of one who holds position😉

 

[JoeNamaMD]

There are only four respectable Caribbean medical schools, SGU, Saba, AUC, and Ross, which all have CA approval. Even these schools all have their own individual issues.

 

[narkotiks]

University of Sint Eustatius The school AlleghenyPod will go to

"Medical College Admission Test (MCAT):
Recommended but not required (the applicant should be prepared to justify omission of the MCAT). "

Don't mean to be a twink but the medical school you will be attending does not even REQUIRE a placement test. Other caribbean "MD" schools have this policy as well. Bash pod schools all you want, but at least they require a placement test (with the majority being the MCAT).

Oh snap son, now go prance around glorious Allegheny College

very interested as to why a candidate with stats so much better than everyone else would go to a carib school, considering all of the stigmas (yes there are stigmas) attached. why not just blow the BS off and go to a mainland school?? pull up all of the stats you want...carib students have a tougher time getting the american residencies that are sought after by most. why take caribbean over US??? what is the part of the story you are not telling bud?

 

[sublimegd]

lol - theres a surprise out of "alleghenyPOD" who isn't a POD student at all, knows less about the profession and is a 1st semester senior in college - premed. hypocrite much?

sometimes sdn is such a joke

Is this for real?

 

[whiskers]

im not even convinced youre in pod school whiskers

good luck with that argument

But you do have to admit that I have a podiatry accent>!? четвёртый Ruffles and Flourishes, Your Honor

 

[narkotiks]

But you do have to admit that I have a podiatry accent>!? четвёртый Ruffles and Flourishes, Your Honor