have your first two years of undergrad been so bad, that you felt like giving up

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...your dream of becoming a Doc and studying medicine? there's NOTHING more in this life I want more than this. Have I been slacking? yes. do i have terrible study skills? yes. so someway somehow , I need to fix this soon, and finish the rest of my undergrad (2.5 more years) strong with ALL A's.

am I being delusional in this thinking?
 
Don't worry about it man...my first year and a half of school was miserable in terms of grades (and I'm not talking about B's...or C's even)...had too much fun and too little study time. But after seeing my GPA suffering, it was a kick to the balls and it motivated me to change my study habits, re-prioritize what was important to me and pull of pretty much straight A's for the rest of my college career. Now I have an acceptance at my top choice school!

It sounds like you are going through the kick in the balls phase, so just hang on there, change up your study habits by making the library your favorite place and don't lose sight of what is important to you.

Cheers,
Brogers
 
Don't worry about it man...my first year and a half of school was miserable in terms of grades (and I'm not talking about B's...or C's even)...had too much fun and too little study time. But after seeing my GPA suffering, it was a kick to the balls and it motivated me to change my study habits, re-prioritize what was important to me and pull of pretty much straight A's for the rest of my college career. Now I have an acceptance at my top choice school!

It sounds like you are going through the kick in the balls phase, so just hang on there, change up your study habits by making the library your favorite place and don't lose sight of what is important to you.

Cheers,
Brogers

just curious...how many years were you an undergrad?
 
which classes in particular, are you having trouble with?
 
It seems to me that you are going through a phase that a lot of us out here have went through- the oh-crap-I-just-want-to-give-up phase. I know I had a semester of it, and mine was also related to grades slipping waaaay below what I was expecting of myself. I think now is a great time to take a step back and re-evaluate your dreams and goals. If performing less than you would like just makes you want to quit, think about that and why your instant thought is to give up. Do you really want to give up, or are you afraid of trying and failing? The road to med school is rocky for a lot of people, although SDN seems to make it seem a little easier than is the norm (all of the Harvard vs Hopkins threads, etc). Having doubts is ok. Taking a step back (now being a perfect time, with the next few weeks off of school) to breathe and re-evaluate is something most people need to do.

If you can honestly say that you want to be a physician more than anything else, then you will buckle down and make it happen. You dont have to go on to get straight A's, setting that high of a goal often leads to more disappointment than anything, but you will have to figure out what works for you to get the grades you need. If you messed up in the prereqs, nothing is going to erase those grades. You can go on to study something that you enjoy, and that shows you have what it takes to succeed academically. Please, also remember that if you study your butt of and do well on the MCAT, that gives you a bit more leeway with all but the most super-selective schools. Yes, Harvard and UCSF and the like are probably out for you. But who cares? One day, you can be a doctor if that is truly your goal.

I would suggest you take a bit to soul-search. If nothing else, you will have a better grasp of yourself when interview time rolls around. Good luck :luck:
 
Don't worry man, it's never too late to turn it around. If you have any D's or more than one or two C's, you need to take some courses over. Other than that, you still have half of your degree left to pull your average up. Realistically there are several med schools that will take a 3.2 if you have a good MCAT score and some extracurriculars.
 
If you have the time and the focus to pull straight A's for the last two years, med schools will definitely take that into consideration. Stay disciplined and keep your motivation. Goodluck!
 
Don't worry man, it's never too late to turn it around. If you have any D's or more than one or two C's, you need to take some courses over. Other than that, you still have half of your degree left to pull your average up. Realistically there are several med schools that will take a 3.2 if you have a good MCAT score and some extracurriculars.

The Caribbeans
 
You aren't in the tank from your grades, yet. You can still do this.

Intuition, maybe it's time to cut with the past. You have some unhelpful habits to break. This repetitive procrastinate, panic, self-deprecation, vow to improve cycle needs to be broken. The methods that have worked for others, where they snap out of it and make a complete change of habit all at once, might not work for you because they aren't necessary suitable for you. I am only guessing that making drastic changes at one time might not be in the best interest of a bipolar person.

Procrastination over studying has been one of you problems in the past. I don't know if it is still an issue for you. Have you considered drawing up a study plan, not for exam time, but for the regular semester? Set specific times to study specific subjects in specific ways during a calm time of day. Check off your progress. Rinse and repeat on a daily basis. Create a routine. Routines can be calming and make your study time more effective.

Set much smaller goals. When you set drastic goals, you are just setting yourself up for failure. You need to break that pattern. Small successes add up just like compound interest. They build your confidence. I think you could probably use a big boost in that area.😉 Enough small successes also let you realize that the larger successes actually ARE possible, and much closer to your reach than when you tried to snag them with one huge leap.

Yes, you CAN do this. You just can't do it all at once. Make a reasonable plan and start walking, not racing, toward your goal. Set a time frame to reevaluate your plan. If it was still too grandiose, bring it down to something more manageable for you.

Those are just my thoughts on the subject. You understand yourself better than those of us who have never met you. If my words don't seem to fit your situation, just file them where they belong.

Keep your chin up. I wish you success.
 
It can happen. I mean, after my freshman year, I had a GPA of ~2.75. I'm graduating this Sunday after 4.5 years in undergrad, and I have managed to bring my GPA up to ~3.40. Is that great? No. It could have been better, but I had some trying times and made less than stellar decisions. You have to admit, though, an increase of 0.65 out of 4.00 isn't bad. So far I have two acceptances to DO schools out of a total of 5 DO interviews and 1 MD interview (the rest are currently waitlists). So I would say that yes, it can be done.
 
...your dream of becoming a Doc and studying medicine? there's NOTHING more in this life I want more than this. Have I been slacking? yes. do i have terrible study skills? yes. so someway somehow , I need to fix this soon, and finish the rest of my undergrad (2.5 more years) strong with ALL A's.

am I being delusional in this thinking?

You say you want "NOTHING more in this life", but you say you don't study well and procrastinate. Well if you really want it, you're not really showing it. You're going to have to work hard, and realize that nothing comes easy. Use getting into med school as your motivation, and kick your grades into gear. Get whatever tutoring or help that is availiable and make sure to put in more work than you even think you need. I'm sure you can do it. Good luck, and DON'T give up.
 
Don't worry about it man...my first year and a half of school was miserable in terms of grades (and I'm not talking about B's...or C's even)...had too much fun and too little study time. But after seeing my GPA suffering, it was a kick to the balls and it motivated me to change my study habits, re-prioritize what was important to me and pull of pretty much straight A's for the rest of my college career. Now I have an acceptance at my top choice school!

It sounds like you are going through the kick in the balls phase, so just hang on there, change up your study habits by making the library your favorite place and don't lose sight of what is important to you.

Cheers,
Brogers

I think this is good advice (as is some other advice above), but I want to emphasize one point, set your primary goal of focusing on studying more and making better use of your time, the grades will follow. I also agree with what someone above said, you might not get straight "A's" from here on out and that's ok, just don't set up unrealistic goals for yourself. Sure, you want mostly A's (going forward), but a B here or there is not going to kill your chances. Most of us go through this, it is normal, but remember not to lose sight of what you are working for.

I wish you luck.
 
yeah, it happens to a lot of us (including myself at times). First objective I would recommend is to re-evaluate to see if you really want to be a physician AND how much you would enjoy your alternative career if you're not (whether that's PT, law, business, etc...). I mean, if you can't imagine doing absolutely anything else, then that itself is a motivation. Also put yourself in a clinical environment... that always did the magic for me as far as motivation is concern. You'll say to yourself, "Damn, I really want to do this... I'll work harder"

All the advice you're getting here are great, It's never too late. I hope you find that source of inspiration (whatever that maybe). Best of Luck
 
I was at your EXACT same situation. But you have to realize, that if you want something bad enough, then you are going to have to look all the people in the face that keep telling you not to try and tell them to '**** off'. This is about you, and what you want to do. Most other people in my situation in 3rd year would have just said, 'oh well...this is going to be too hard. Screw it.' It's possible if you really make that commitment. That means you have to work. Hard. You're going to have to put in 50-80 hrs. of work in every week, and you have to make sure you're grades are as high as possible. Shoot for a 4.0. Be prepared to do a Postbacc program, or an SMP program even if you kill your MCAT and keep your grades high.

Just decide if you're really willing to do what is required.
 
I really don't want to have to do a post bacc or SMP, so I guess I'm just going to have to work my *** off from here on out, and stop worrying about things that don't have anything to do with medicine.

thanks for all the input!
 
don't give up even though the road may be difficult and sometimes seem impossible. those who make it believe in the beauty of their dreams
 
I had the same feeling after 1.5 years of undergrad. I started with a 3.3, dipped to a 3.2, then I had a 2.9 my third semester. I seriously thought about leaving my med school ambitions at that point. I'm glad I didn't. I got a 3.4 my fourth semester and then straight 4.0's my junior and senior years. I finished with a 3.57 overall GPA and killed my MCAT. And now I'm in med school for next year 🙂.

Just keep at it and really start buckling down. AdComs will take notice if you end up improving your grades. You shouldn't give up on your ambitions yet.
 
you're just frightened that you will do your best and it won't be good enough---and you'll have an excuse, like, "I didn't work hard enough, oh well." What will kill you is realizing that you'll never know how things might have worked out, if you don't actually get yourself together and try. There's nothing wrong with doing your best and having to find another way to make a living.
 
I had the same feeling after 1.5 years of undergrad. I started with a 3.3, dipped to a 3.2, then I had a 2.9 my third semester. I seriously thought about leaving my med school ambitions at that point. I'm glad I didn't. I got a 3.4 my fourth semester and then straight 4.0's my junior and senior years. I finished with a 3.57 overall GPA and killed my MCAT. And now I'm in med school for next year 🙂.

Just keep at it and really start buckling down. AdComs will take notice if you end up improving your grades. You shouldn't give up on your ambitions yet.

nice job.
how did you succeed with an upward trend? changing habits, routines, mindset? i have pretty much the same stats as you , except i didn't take the MCAT yet.
 
I had my first 3 years of undergrad suck, then I turned it all around. Of course, its taken 5 years, but now I'm going to med school.
 
We're on the same wavelength right now. I'm currently going through this phase. Yes, I slacked off at the beginning of the year because I was going in one direction and I had it down.

Then late September my med school dreams started coming back to me and I struggled to decide which way I wanted to go.

And now I'm taking sciences for the first time in a while and to tell you the truth I'm a little scared. Because I started off in a different area this stuff is all new. And it's definitely not a confidence boost when all these freshman in my classes are all giddy about balancing redox reactions and I'm about to cry because I'm still lost🙁 and don't fully get it until I go home and study it.

But once I study it and REALLY know it, I just don't get it in the hour in class. I'm REALLY stressed about the MCAT though. I know I can ace these classes but I suck at standardized tests that I know can make or break it for me:scared:

But I'm taking it one day at a time, I haven't said the whole "I want to give up" yet and I don't plan to.

I think another thing that works is staying away from SDN. It can be both inspirational boost and a depressing reality:scared: I'm more at peace when I'm not here all the time.
 
...your dream of becoming a Doc and studying medicine? there's NOTHING more in this life I want more than this. Have I been slacking? yes. do i have terrible study skills? yes. so someway somehow , I need to fix this soon, and finish the rest of my undergrad (2.5 more years) strong with ALL A's.

am I being delusional in this thinking?
No, you're not being delusional. Just focus and give it your best shot. There are plenty of stories of people who bombed the first few years and still did well in the application process. Good luck. 👍
 
nice job.
how did you succeed with an upward trend? changing habits, routines, mindset? i have pretty much the same stats as you , except i didn't take the MCAT yet.

I partied too much my first two years and I also tried to take too many difficult classes (and of course didn't study enough). My last two years, I started studying more. At first, I forced myself to go to the library regularly (even if I didn't think I needed to). I also took fewer and classes that knew to be somewhat easier (I still took around 14-15 credits per semester). I also devoted ALOT of time to studying for the MCAT. With my grades coming up, I also realized I could still have time to go out with my friends and party. Not as much as I did my first two years, but I still got to have fun with friends. And that was my path to redemption.

In a nutshell, I mostly changed my mindset regarding studying/partying and how much of each I needed to do, I took fewer classes, and I changed my study habits.
 
Im actually in the same boat....due to 2 deaths in my family (they lived with me so it was hard) I did pretty bad in my past 2 semesters. I'm still a 2nd yr undergrad and basically have 3 semesters to pull my HORRIBLE grades up. Ive realized though that even with working my tail off my science gpa will be between 2.8-3.00 and my other gpa will be in the 3.5-3.7 zone. Ive already started preparing for mcats and plan on doing well. any advice? I really want to avoid post-bacc if I can but it just seems impossible at the moment 🙁
 
you're just frightened that you will do your best and it won't be good enough---and you'll have an excuse, like, "I didn't work hard enough, oh well." What will kill you is realizing that you'll never know how things might have worked out, if you don't actually get yourself together and try.
That's deep right there 👍
 
thanks guys, you guys are so right!

I guess its been difficult since I'm sorta having family problems but i will get through this =)
 
I'm probably a little late to share, but right now I feel like all 4 years of my undergrad and my 1 down year have been so bad that a part of me wants to give up, but it's a rather small part.

Ultimately, if this is what you want to do, you'll pull yourself together and you will get through this. Many people applying to medical school have had similar problems as yourself. Terrible study habits (me), chronic procrastination (me), tragic deaths. As I scan the thread now, many of these tails have been relayed to you.

Personally, I know this is what I want with every fiber of my being. Every setback is another affirmation that this is it. You're fortunate you have time. Many other people can't say the same thing.

And something corny at 4am: never give up.
 
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