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FROM THE APA LISTSERV:

Dear Friends and Colleagues,
> Hawaii has reached the tremendous crossroads of their bill passing both
> the House and the Senate. The Senate vote was 13 to 12 and the House had
> a
> margin of about 10.
>
> What a remarkable achievement against such great odds. What hard work
> this represents by Jill Oliveiri-Berry, Robin Miyamoto, Ray Folen and
> their
> team. Congratulations to all.
> Now the big push of course is for their Governor to sign this
> Bill. The
> Hawaii RXP team will be sending us an official message soon.
> We can't wait for the details!
>

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Hopefully things will kept moving in the right direction!
 
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The American Psychiatric Association has issued the following news release:
>
> APA Urges Hawaii Governor to Protect Patients by Vetoing Psychologist
> Prescribing Bill
>
> The American Psychiatric Association (APA) joined local medical and patient
> advocates in urging Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle to protect patients by
> vetoing Senate Bill 1004 CD 1. The controversial bill would permit
> psychologists-who are not medically trained-to prescribe psychotropic
> medications. The Hawaii Senate narrowly voted 13 - 12 on final passage of
> the bill, while the House approved the bill with only a seven-vote majority.
>
> Under current law in Hawaii and 47 other states, psychologists are
> prohibited from prescribing any and all medications. S.B. 1004 CD 1 would
> eliminate current legal protections that prohibit psychologists in Hawaii
> from prescribing controlled substances. In the last ten years, 22 states -
> some multiple times - have considered and rejected similar proposals. During
> the 2007 sessions alone, legislators in California, Georgia, Illinois,
> Mississippi, Montana and Tennessee have wisely rejected similar legislation.
>
> In a letter today to Gov. Lingle, APA President Pedro Ruiz, M.D., wrote, in
> part:
> "The FDA has recently taken several actions that underscore the importance
> of medical training when prescribing medications, such as antidepressants
> and stimulants. For example, in October 2004, the FDA directed
> pharmaceutical companies to label all antidepressant medications distributed
> in the U.S. with a "black box" warning that the medications "increase the
> risk of suicidal thinking and behavior
> (suicidality) in children and adolescents with major depressive disorder
> (MDD) or other psychiatric disorders." The warning further states that the
> increased risk of suicidal thinking and/or behavior in a small proportion of
> children and adolescents is most likely to occur during the early phases of
> treatment. The FDA did not prohibit use of the medications in youth, but
> called on physicians and parents to closely monitor children and adolescents
> who are taking antidepressants for a worsening in symptoms of depression or
> unusual changes in behavior.
>
> "Psychotropic medications used to treat mental illnesses are among the most
> powerful in modern medicine. Used properly, they can offer remarkable
> benefits to patients struggling with severe brain illnesses.
> With these benefits come real risks. These medications have potentially
> disabling and deadly side effects if improperly prescribed and can cause
> convulsions, epilepsy, heart arrhythmia, blood disease, seizures, coma,
> stroke and death.
>
> "Mental illnesses-schizophrenia, major depression, bipolar disorder,
> childhood autism, and post-traumatic disorders, to name some of the most
> prevalent-are serious disorders. They are illnesses involving abnormalities
> in brain chemistry, many with strong genetic components, affecting the very
> essence of being human: our capacity to think, to reason, to judge reality,
> and to control our emotions and behavior. S.B.
> 1004 CD 1 would put people with these illnesses at risk.
>
> "Without a doubt, limited-licensure health care providers play an integral
> role in the delivery of health care in this country. Efficient team-based
> care cannot exist without collaboration among physicians, nurses, and other
> limited-licensure providers, including psychologists.
> However, problems arise when limited-licensure providers seek practice
> expansions, by legislation, that are not commensurate with their education
> and training.
>
> "The training required of certified psychologists under this measure in no
> way provides an adequate substitute for the extensive training required of
> licensed psychiatrists and other physicians. To be licensed as a physician,
> a person must have more than 4,000 classroom hours of medical school, and a
> one-year internship within a medical selling. In addition, psychiatrists and
> other specialist physicians must have at least four years of residency. The
> training required in S.B. 1004 CD1 for certification involves only a
> fraction of the medical school classroom hours, and therefore may place
> patients at risk.
>
> "Diagnosing illness and prescribing medication to treat it is based on a
> medical model of care, not on a psychological construct. This demands
> full-time, thorough, medical education and training in order to practice
> safely and effectively. Those responsible for treating a patient's
> psychiatric illness must be frilly capable of assessing the patient's
> overall medical condition. Half of all patients taking a brain medication
> have another major illness that requires medication. While the potential for
> drug interactions, alone, is cause for grave concern, it is important to
> note that all of these medications are broken down by the liver and the
> kidneys and flow through the same blood stream. Under no circumstances are
> psychologists trained to understand, assess and monitor a patient's medical
> condition as a whole.
>
> "We hope you would agree that the people of Hawaii deserve a higher standard
> of medical care than would exist under this bill. On that basis we urge you
> to reject this rush to judgment and to protect all Hawaii residents by
> vetoing S.B. 1004 CD 1. Thank you for considering these urgent comments."
>
> About the American Psychiatric Association:
> The American Psychiatric Association is a national medical specialty society
> whose more than 38,000 physician members specialize in diagnosis, treatment,
> prevention and research of mental illnesses including substance use
> disorders. Visit the APA at www.psych.org and www.HealthyMinds.org
>
 
Just want to make you aware of the attached letter from Dr. Russ Newman that was sent to Hawaii's governor, Linda Lingle, regarding prescription privileges legislation.
 

Attachments

  • SB 1004 -- Ltr to Gov Lingle.pdf
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Though the current standards in NM and LA (not sure about HI) far exceed NPs and PAs...go figure.

Oh...and the research all says that prescribing psychologist CAN safely prescribe. Good ol' AMA spreading lies and misinformation.

-t
 
Well, it's officially going to be vetoed. Legislative efforts are worthless if the governor is not on board and overrides the legislature with a simple veto. Better luck next year, I guess.

"5/4/2007 S Enrolled to Governor.
6/25/2007 S Notice of Intent to veto dated 06-25-07 (Gov. Msg. No. 979)
6/25/2007 H Notice of intent to veto (Gov. Msg. No. 546)"
 
It was a VERY crippled bill. I'd rather have other states pass through better legislation, and then have HI try again.

Hopefully Oregon and similar states can get more progressive legislation, because I don't want the Hawaii standards set.

-t
 
Well just completed my graduation and looking forward for Clinical Psychology. Which degree to proceed with? Phd?? Can any one tell me the benefits if possible..
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>other limited-licensure providers, including psychologists.
> However, problems arise when limited-licensure providers seek practice
> expansions, by legislation, that are not commensurate with their >education and training.

So we are now a "limited licensure" profession. With that tone I am surprised they did not call us "mid-level" providers. BTW I just published an article on RXP in the Journal of Contemporary Psychotherapy! I am not sure when it will hit print.

Does anyone know the status of the latest Missouri legislation??
 
I am not sure how I feel about psychologists having RxP, but that release from the American Psychiatric Association made me a little angry. I agree that the tone was very denigrating.
 
Over the past few decades, the roles of psychiatry have become more limited, to the point where they mainly do med checks, etc, and psychology does most of the evaluations and psychotherapy. If doctoral level psychologists prescribing becomes the norm, and as masters level therapists become more common, will we face the same thing psychiatrists faced, that is that our roles will change and we will end up doing mainly medication while masters level psychologists take over evals and psychotherapy?

Just a thought.
 
I believe the intent is to have medication as one of the interventions available, and not as the sole one. Based on the DOD study the prescribing psychologists prescribed less than their counterparts and were more likely to take meds off. I think it is an important distinction to go down this path, and not try to be a replacement for mid-level and physician prescribers. The advantage for prescribing psychologists is the ability to see their patients regularly for therapy sessions, be able to monitor their progress more closely, and provide meds management as needed.

As for the consulting aspect....I happen to agree that it would be most beneficial for the prescriber to have someone to consult with, as I think it helps both parties involved see things more clearly.
 
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