Health Care Reform question during interview

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I can't say I disagree with this, but I can't say I agree either. The problems with our current system are obvious, and something does need to be done about it, but the fundamental differences between solutions will revolve around to what extent the government will be involved. One side will want the government to just sweep us all into a euphoria by instituting a wonderful system that will take care of everyone, and the other side will want the principles that our Great Nation were founded on to govern how we solve the problem. I vote for the latter. People came, and still come to America for opportunity, the freedom to exercise certain God-given rights-Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Everyone has those opportunities in America, and no one should be punished by achieving them. We are not entitled to happiness. We are entitled to pursue happiness. What we do with that opportunity is up to each of us.

Well said! I think its important to just acknowledge that there is a problem with the monopoly over healthcare by private enterprise. Long as competition is back in a free market and the consumer isn't getting ripped off...especially when it comes to their health..thats all that matters really!
 
Yup and back to your point..was that able to compete at all with the private? hehehe they are failing miserably. I guess to see competition come back is what is necessary ..reform is needed.

Yes they are failing. Too many on it, not enough paying into it. Isn't that making my point? I'm having a hard time understanding why we would need more of that...
 
I can't say I disagree with this, but I can't say I agree either. The problems with our current system are obvious, and something does need to be done about it, but the fundamental differences between solutions will revolve around to what extent the government will be involved. One side will want the government to just sweep us all into a euphoria by instituting a wonderful system that will take care of everyone, and the other side will want the principles that our Great Nation were founded on to govern how we solve the problem. I vote for the latter. People came, and still come to America for opportunity, the freedom to exercise certain God-given rights-Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Everyone has those opportunities in America, and no one should be punished by achieving them. We are not entitled to happiness. We are entitled to pursue happiness. What we do with that opportunity is up to each of us.



well first off, i believe that rights are not god given. we give rights, as this is neccesary by the history of poeple without right, ergo not "god given". i get that some people will work hard and be successful and make boat loads of cash. but can you say that a dentist worked "harder" than a construction worker with 2 kids that has worked his butt off over the same time span as a kid going through college and dental school? lets seperate hard work and success because they don't really belong in parellel (financially speaking).

so if the construction worker gets hurt and/or lost his health ins, why should he or his kids suffer? the fact of the matter is that private health insurance is priced out of range of most americans unless they belong to a company that pays for or subsidizes their coverage. this is not acceptable.

a govt. provided public option that is a solution. perhaps it wouldnt be "free" to all but affordable. without going into possible details about it, i'll just say regardless, we need the option.
 
a govt. provided public option that is a solution. perhaps it wouldnt be "free" to all but affordable. without going into possible details about it, i'll just say regardless, we need the option.

1. Government takes money from business to pay for "free" or "affordable" coverage
2. Business lays off employee(s) to cover increased tax expense
3. More people receive "free" or "affordable" coverage, less pay for it
 
1. Government takes money from business to pay for "free" or "affordable" coverage
2. Business lays off employee(s) to cover increased tax expense
3. More people receive "free" or "affordable" coverage, less pay for it

1. govt takes money from buisnesses who dont provide healthcare
2. buisnesses provide healthcare
3. employees are healthier and miss less work --> morale improves
4. buisness + people benefit.

i enjoy theoretical lists! this is <pointless> fun!
 
1. govt takes money from buisnesses who dont provide healthcare
2. buisnesses provide healthcare
3. employees are healthier and miss less work --> morale improves
4. buisness + people benefit.

i enjoy theoretical lists! this is <pointless> fun!

lol! You really don't give up do you?!
 
Yes they are failing. Too many on it, not enough paying into it. Isn't that making my point? I'm having a hard time understanding why we would need more of that...

i believed you asked something along the lines of "how in the world could private insurance companies compete with with a public option?" and...well your answer was medicare and medicade..yes they are not doing well at the moment and private is competing quite well.

Govt option or not, long as people could:
- choose an affordable health care,
- never get dropped or refused because of a pre-existing condition and
- not go bankrupt when they get old, sick or injured and realize that they re not fully covered and have to pay tons of deductibles.

I think that the idea of making profit off of sick people is what kind of touches basic human instinct. Perhaps makes people open to a public option. But ofcourse, free market and competition is usually more efficient than the government. But then again, policing and firefighters are government operated....argh ..damn it.. its a really tough debate and there is no black and white.

I do stand on my point that i keep repeating over here...insurance companies denying people coverage for outrageous reasons like a pre-existing condition is simply unacceptable...change is needed...whether a govt option or not!
 
Our current healthcare system is not that bad, but I agree changes need to be made. I'm in favor of keeping medicaid open for people that have low-paying or lack of jobs like myself. I know this program is in the red and there have been massive amounts of fraud, but these problems will likely be intensified with a universal plan.
I say get the gov't to entice more corporations to use a Health Saving Accounts (HSA's) for their employees. This is a tax deductible account that allows people to shop for the price and quality of care that is important for them. People will take better care of themselves and the competition will drive down costs and make medical care more efficient. Also the demand for cheaper healthcare directly from patients, not insurers, should give the public incentive for forcing politicians to deregulate health care. Deregulation would eliminate paper work, time spent doing useless tests, and give more responsibility to RNs and PAs. For Major health problems people can buy high deductible health insurance plans which are a fraction of the cost of the current average insurance.

I do not like universal care because I hate the idea of becoming a slave for people who do not take care of themselves!!!! They smoke, eat like crap, and do not exercise. And I only see the volume of people like this would increase if they do not have to pay a dime when problems arise.

That is my solution for any like-minded people. And yes it is what I will tell adcoms. The dentists I talked to do not like the idea and I'm thinking that will be common with many adcoms.
 
Our current healthcare system is not that bad, but I agree changes need to be made. I'm in favor of keeping medicaid open for people that have low-paying or lack of jobs like myself. I know this program is in the red and there have been massive amounts of fraud, but these problems will likely be intensified with a universal plan.
I say get the gov't to entice more corporations to use a Health Saving Accounts (HSA's) for their employees. This is a tax deductible account that allows people to shop for the price and quality of care that is important for them. People will take better care of themselves and the competition will drive down costs and make medical care more efficient. Also the demand for cheaper healthcare directly from patients, not insurers, should give the public incentive for forcing politicians to deregulate health care. Deregulation would eliminate paper work, time spent doing useless tests, and give more responsibility to RNs and PAs. For Major health problems people can buy high deductible health insurance plans which are a fraction of the cost of the current average insurance.

I do not like universal care because I hate the idea of becoming a slave for people who do not take care of themselves!!!! They smoke, eat like crap, and do not exercise. And I only see the volume of people like this would increase if they do not have to pay a dime when problems arise.

That is my solution for any like-minded people. And yes it is what I will tell adcoms. The dentists I talked to do not like the idea and I'm thinking that will be common with many adcoms.


Heathcare does not benefit from deregulation like most other private sectors. deregulation results in greater profits for health insurance and pham companies but American don't see that benefit in care. Also, the lowest social class is encouraged to eat like crap, and smoke, and can't afford your personal trainer. they are exploited and marketed these products specifically and are in a finanical position where a $0.99 menu feeds their family fast and for less then fresh produce. you obviosly took an economics class but next semester sign up for a social problems class. also becareful about generalizing adcoms and dentists in general. many of our adcom members hinted that they voted Obama so you never know where people stand.
 
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