Heeeelp.. Where to go??

[TheUnknownMD]

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This is kind of a strange question but I am wondering how would you guys rank these programs in terms of name and prestige? I am looking for a career in academic psych and a residency program to graduate from that will allow me to work at some of the big psych institutions in this country. that being said, Im not sure but i think the name of where one did residency is a pretty big factor in academic psych and even for fellowships is it not? How would you ranks this in name with 1 being the most prestigious?

Yale
Hopkins
Cornell
Duke
Emory
Mayo
UCLA
UCSF
WashU
UMich
Columbia
Menninger

 

[BobA]

This is kind of a strange question but I am wondering how would you guys rank these programs in terms of name and prestige? I am looking for a career in academic psych and a residency program to graduate from that will allow me to work at some of the big psych institutions in this country. that being said, Im not sure but i think the name of where one did residency is a pretty big factor in academic psych and even for fellowships is it not? How would you ranks this in name with 1 being the most prestigious?

Yale
Hopkins
Cornell
Duke
Emory
Mayo
UCLA
UCSF
WashU
UMich
Columbia
Menninger

I'm just an MS4, but I'd bet that the reps of all these places are roughly equivalent and could change with the wind. If you want to go into academic psych, you should probably go where you think you'll be the most productive and happiest.

Someone else on these boards wrote "happiness breeds success" and I think that's true.

 

[OldPsychDoc]

This is kind of a strange question but I am wondering how would you guys rank these programs in terms of name and prestige? I am looking for a career in academic psych and a residency program to graduate from that will allow me to work at some of the big psych institutions in this country. that being said, Im not sure but i think the name of where one did residency is a pretty big factor in academic psych and even for fellowships is it not? How would you ranks this in name with 1 being the most prestigious?

Yale
Hopkins
Cornell
Duke
Emory
Mayo
UCLA
UCSF
WashU
UMich
Columbia
Menninger

ALL of these programs will provide sufficient "name recognition" to get you where you want to go.

When it comes to getting an academic job, your "grantability" (e.g. research experience, publications, etc.) is going to be FAR more important than the name of your school. Any of the above, along with Pitt, Penn, several Boston programs which you've left off this list, will provide the academic culture you seek. You could add places such as Washington, GWU, Iowa, Alabama, Vanderbilt, and many, MANY others. Your list is by no means exhaustive. Any of them will be sufficiently respected to make you competitive for the fellowship of your choice--ASSUMING that YOU are a competitive applicant! The name of your school contributes less than 1% to what happens to you after residency. YOU and your motivations will provide the far more important 99%.

Good luck, and don't worry about the relative "prestige" of programs on this list as you fill in your rank list.

 

[strangeglove]

It does matter where you do residency. A significant number of faculty at some of the institutions you listed completed both residency and fellowship at the same institutions where they are now working. Some programs prefer to hire their own and others do not. You can find out on some programs' websites where their graduates are presently working.

 

[OldPsychDoc]

It does matter where you do residency. A significant number of faculty at some of the institutions you listed completed both residency and fellowship at the same institutions where they are now working. Some programs prefer to hire their own and others do not. You can find out on some programs' websites where their graduates are presently working.

Then the operative question becomes "Where do you want to be on faculty?", not "Which program is marginally more prestigious relative to the others?".

I agree, unlike many university departments, which may emphasize hiring people who have trained elsewhere, academic clinical departments tend to hire their own "products".

 

[strangeglove]

Then the operative question becomes "Where do you want to be on faculty?"

That sounds like an important question for anyone heading into academic psychiatry. I'm pretty sure that these programs are not only looking at you as a future resident, but also as a future fellow and faculty.