Help me understand OMM

[tinyhandsbob]

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Can anyone point me to a good reference/text book/literature/syllabus regarding what OMM coursework material looks like? I'm trying to get a better sense of what the coursework and exams will look like in the OMM portion of a DO program. Thanks!

 

[Angus Avagadro]

DiGiovana or Nicholas textbooks are what many schools use

 

[Cryc_to_the_point]

Obtain Saverese OMT Review.
Stop trying to "understand," it.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Stop trying to "understand," it.

Agreed. This is the first step to true enlightenment grasshopper.

 

[907914]

Agreed. This is the first step to true enlightenment grasshopper.

Obtain Saverese OMT Review.
Stop trying to "understand," it.

Is this a “do it to get through it” sort of thing?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Is this a “do it to get through it” sort of thing?

Yes.

 

[DrStephenStrange]

Just go to class and lab, then fake it till you make it. There's no understanding it while you're not actually doing it. Although I just discovered this website called YouTube that has some great videos.

 

[PA_dud3]

Idk, I think it's pretty interesting. It's not touted to be a cure all (atleast not like Chiropractic) but it has its place.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

It's not touted to be a cure all

Oh just you wait

 

[hungrydoc710]

Savarese just dropped a new edition

 

[Goro]

Is this a “do it to get through it” sort of thing?

Suspend your disbelief and try to learn something useful.
Consider it the tax on your screwing up your GPA and/or MCAT

 

[Ho0v-man]

I’ve been trying to understand for years. There is no understanding in OMM. There’s a much better chance that we’re all actually in the Matrix right now than if some parts of OMM are even kind of real.

 

[DrStephenStrange]

I’ve been trying to understand for years. There is no understanding in OMM. There’s a much better chance that we’re all actually in the Matrix right now than if some parts of OMM are even kind of real.

Some parts of OMM like muscle energy, hvla, ect... actually do work and are real. I'll admit most of everything else is BS though.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Some parts of OMM like muscle energy, hvla, ect... actually do work and are real.

The data is poor even for these methods.

 

[Avalanche19]

Suspend your disbelief and try to learn something useful.
Consider it the tax on your screwing up your GPA and/or MCAT

What he said. I'm a PGY2 DO. Have never and will never use OMM on actual patients. Roll your eyes through med school and then never think about it again.

 

[tinyhandsbob]

How much time do DOs spend on OMM specific studying during a typical med school week? Same or less than for a regular class?

 

[DrStephenStrange]

How much time do DOs spend on OMM specific studying during a typical med school week? Same or less than for a regular class?

I study for it right before the test. Literally the day before for about 2 or 3 hours. OMM is not that hard.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

How much time do DOs spend on OMM specific studying during a typical med school week? Same or less than for a regular class?

Zero minutes. If it's a test week then for 2 hours the night before.

 

[993444]

How do schools even test you on OMM? Is it on a real person...... another examinee perhaps? Now I'm worried lol.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Written exams and practicals where you treat your partner with the technique they tell you to do.

 

[993444]

Written exams and practicals where you treat your partner with the technique they tell you to do.

Ever had a situation where someone injured their partner?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Ever had a situation where someone injured their partner?

How would someone get injured?

 

[993444]

How would someone get injured?

Very poorly executed OMM technique?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Very poorly executed OMM technique?

No.

 

[Dr. Foresight]

Ever had a situation where someone injured their partner?

I have seen someone get injured, but it wasn't during a practical. I won't get into specifics but a person who should have known better hurt someone while preparing for a practical. Fortunately, it wasn't a major injury.

 

[DrStephenStrange]

Very poorly executed OMM technique?

Even poorly executed OMM can't really injure someone that bad. The worst that could happen is you get a mild sore body for a couple day. You have to really try to hurt somebody. You don't do brisk movement in OMM.

 

[PA_dud3]

Is OMM "indicated" often for the COMLEX 2 PE? Like I know you have to "see patients" but do they expect you to use it a considerable amount in the exam?

 

[DrStephenStrange]

Is OMM "indicated" often for the COMLEX 2 PE? Like I know you have to "see patients" but do they expect you to use it a considerable amount in the exam?

Our clinical skills course director said you can't get an A in our Standardized patient encounters if we don't use OMM in our physical exams and SOAP notes, and we barely even have enough time to do everything else. I settled for the B. I surely hope they don't expect lots of OMM for the PE.

 

[993444]

Our clinical skills course director said you can't get an A in our Standardized patient encounters if we don't use OMM in our physical exams and SOAP notes, and we barely even have enough time to do everything else. I settled for the B. I surely hope they don't expect lots of OMM for the PE.

What about OMM during M3 clerkships?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Is OMM "indicated" often for the COMLEX 2 PE? Like I know you have to "see patients" but do they expect you to use it a considerable amount in the exam?

Our clinical skills course director said you can't get an A in our Standardized patient encounters if we don't use OMM in our physical exams and SOAP notes, and we barely even have enough time to do everything else. I settled for the B. I surely hope they don't expect lots of OMM for the PE.

We were told that about 1/3 patients on PE will have some sort of OMM indication. Apparently they are pretty blatant with their chief complaint if it's an "OMM" patient.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

What about OMM during M3 clerkships?

We have an OMM rotation, one of the very few schools that does, and other than that it's minimal.

 

[diesel2202]

We were told that about 1/3 patients on PE will have some sort of OMM indication. Apparently they are pretty blatant with their chief complaint if it's an "OMM" patient.

Yep, 4 encounters with omm. Technically you could do it for more but it's not worth the time. And for the most part it's pretty clear which cases to do it on.

 

[hallowmann]

DiGiovana or Nicholas textbooks are what many schools use

Nicholas Atlas would be a pretty good demonstration of "what" they'll be doing in lab. Savarese is a good general guide. DiGiovanna is far too much text, but I suppose would be the most appropriate for "understanding" OMM, now why you would want to necessarily spend time on that, especially before med school, is beyond me.

Is OMM "indicated" often for the COMLEX 2 PE? Like I know you have to "see patients" but do they expect you to use it a considerable amount in the exam?

...I surely hope they don't expect lots of OMM for the PE.

We were told that about 1/3 patients on PE will have some sort of OMM indication. Apparently they are pretty blatant with their chief complaint if it's an "OMM" patient.

3-4 encounters. They make it obvious. Those were probably the easiest ones. You can use any technique you want, and something quick like BLT, MFR, or muscle energy is ideal.

 

[Medic741]

Even poorly executed OMM can't really injure someone that bad. The worst that could happen is you get a mild sore body for a couple day. You have to really try to hurt somebody. You don't do brisk movement in OMM.

Cervical hvla...

 

[Deecee2DO]

Some parts of OMM like muscle energy, hvla, ect... actually do work and are real. I'll admit most of everything else is BS though.

I agree. HVLA is def not ineffective for low back pain. Literature shows it is at least as effective as PT for mechanical low back pain but works faster than PT. It has its place. If I have mechanical low back pain without any red flags Im getting HVLA and soft tissue/muscle energy before I see an ortho. I don't want injections/opioids/muscle relaxers if I don't need it.

 

[deleted1005514]

We have an OMM rotation, one of the very few schools that does, and other than that it's minimal.

Is your OMM rotation just helping out in the OMM lab at your school, or clinical OMM?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Is your OMM rotation just helping out in the OMM lab at your school, or clinical OMM?

Clinical OMM, although we are required to go to the weekly OMM lab too.