Help with ECs

[Status Sciaticus]

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Hey,
Soooo looking critically at my app, I am really lacking in medical ECs.

My college ecs:
frat
few organizations
amsa
leadership positions
summer jobs

Now i have a preceptorship with a pediatrician, a PCP, and hopefully one with a surgeon.

I also plan on volunteering either at a free clinic or at a hospital.

is there anything else that might come to mind?

since there is a chance I might not get in this cycle, i have time to add some significant ECs.

 

[Morsetlis]

Could become a CNA/EMT.

Could do more research.

If you have good stats you would just need to build on what you already have.

 

[gettheleadout]

Are you interested in research at all?

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Are you interested in research at all?

very. particularly vector biotechnology and drug delivery systems.
but i dont have research exp at all.

im in a grad program so its somewhat time consuming but I sent cold emails to the profs that I might be interested in working with so far.

 

[Status Sciaticus]

Could become a CNA/EMT.

Could do more research.

If you have good stats you would just need to build on what you already have.

EMT i think wouldnt work because i really want to get into med school by next cycle ( will be 3rd time applying) and therefore i wont get to use the EMT license at all..

i dont have decent stats. 3.5/ 24&27. i took the 8/18 mcat so waiting on that one.

 

[Morsetlis]

EMT class is 2 months. The ambulance companies usually hire at the beginning of the year / August when all the previous EMT's leave for paramedic school.

Being an EMT itself is also a lot of knowledge you'll be glad to have. Plus, there's the ridealongs/externships which are kinda... shadowing/clinical. On my first ridealong I helped with victims of a multivehicle collision.

 

[Status Sciaticus]

EMT class is 2 months. The ambulance companies usually hire at the beginning of the year / August when all the previous EMT's leave for paramedic school.

Being an EMT itself is also a lot of knowledge you'll be glad to have. Plus, there's the ridealongs/externships which are kinda... shadowing/clinical. On my first ridealong I helped with victims of a multivehicle collision.

as i mentioned, im in a SMP so its very time consuming and i cant devote 6+hours a shift to EMT and 2 months to train.

 

[Morsetlis]

as i mentioned, im in a SMP so its very time consuming and i cant devote 6+hours a shift to EMT and 2 months to train.

SMP is different from "a grad program". SMP's are on a strict timeline and usually have real connections to medical schools. Your SMP advisor will probably tell you what they think you should do regarding EC's. Typically, it's the grades that matter as to whether or not your affiliated school (or any other med school) will matriculate you upon completion of the SMP.

 

[aSagacious]

smp is different from "a grad program". Smp's are on a strict timeline and usually have real connections to medical schools. Your smp advisor will probably tell you what they think you should do regarding ec's. Typically, it's the grades that matter as to whether or not your affiliated school (or any other med school) will matriculate you upon completion of the smp.

+1

 

[Status Sciaticus]

+1

i remember our advisor saying that the courseload is time consuming so dont take any jobs ( EMT ) but i still can donate about 4-5 hours a week to ECs which is why i leaned towards shadowing/volunteering.

how time consuming is research?
Im in the UNT SMP but I dont plan on attending the D.O. school because of the fact that I want to practice international medicine and D.O. degrees arent recognized in India/Asia.

i really want to get into UTHSCSA/UTMB or any other texas schools.

 

[Morsetlis]

i remember our advisor saying that the courseload is time consuming so dont take any jobs ( EMT ) but i still can donate about 4-5 hours a week to ECs which is why i leaned towards shadowing/volunteering.

how time consuming is research?
Im in the UNT SMP but I dont plan on attending the D.O. school because of the fact that I want to practice international medicine and D.O. degrees arent recognized in India/Asia.

i really want to get into UTHSCSA/UTMB or any other texas schools.

If you go with the RC or MSF, the D.O. degree will work. If you want to practice international medicine via the military, the D.O. degree will work.

If you're asking how time consuming is research I do not think you will turn out appreciable research projects in time, and the investigators probably wouldn't appreciate somebody who can only put in 5 hours a week (a generalization, but mostly true). If you're still bent on doing "research" then yeah go for it... I just don't think it will turn out to be too exciting for you.

Yes, you should plan for the future, but discarding the D.O. school idea while being enrolled in a D.O. school's SMP is kinda... too farsighted.

 

[Catalystik]

is there anything else that might come to mind?

since there is a chance I might not get in this cycle, i have time to add some significant ECs.

If you don't have any nonmedical community service tht helps the poor, consider getting that in over this next year, even if it's only an hour a week. Consider soup kitchen, Meals on Wheels, crisis hotline, homeless shelter, womens shelter, Habitat for Humanity, teaching ESL through a community center, tutoring middle school kids from a poor district, even Humane Society, depending on what's in your area.

 

[Status Sciaticus]

If you go with the RC or MSF, the D.O. degree will work. If you want to practice international medicine via the military, the D.O. degree will work.

If you're asking how time consuming is research I do not think you will turn out appreciable research projects in time, and the investigators probably wouldn't appreciate somebody who can only put in 5 hours a week (a generalization, but mostly true). If you're still bent on doing "research" then yeah go for it... I just don't think it will turn out to be too exciting for you.

Yes, you should plan for the future, but discarding the D.O. school idea while being enrolled in a D.O. school's SMP is kinda... too farsighted.

an SMP is not specific to a school. and im sure there isnt such a thing as a D.O. SMP.
and the D.O. is not recognized in India.

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If you don't have any nonmedical community service tht helps the poor, consider getting that in over this next year, even if it's only an hour a week. Consider soup kitchen, Meals on Wheels, crisis hotline, homeless shelter, womens shelter, Habitat for Humanity, teaching ESL through a community center, tutoring middle school kids from a poor district, even Humane Society, depending on what's in your area.

i actually have about 90 hours of habitat for humanity. but I plan on tutoring children if I am unable to get medical volunteering!

 

[grindtime1]

To Catalysk:

Does non-medical community service have to help out the poor? What about playing cards/games/talking with the elderly at a nursing home?

 

[aSagacious]

how time consuming is research?

Very. Of course it depends on the type of research, but it is very difficult (if not impossible) to do any meaningful research in 4-5 hours per week.

 

[Catalystik]

@ grindtime: No it doesn't, but that which does, tends to have a wider appeal as some med schools are particularly looking for it. And while some nursing homes are meant for the elite rich, most have many medicare recipients without other assets, qualifying them as "poor."

 

[gettheleadout]

Very. Of course it depends on the type of research, but it is very difficult (if not impossible) to do any meaningful research in 4-5 hours per week.

Well, depending on the type of work (like you said) and the pace you want to go at...

 

[grindtime1]

@ grindtime: No it doesn't, but that which does, tends to have a wider appeal as some med schools are particularly looking for it. And while some nursing homes are meant for the elite rich, most have many medicare recipients without other assets, qualifying them as "poor."

Catalystik, is there any way to find out which schools prefer helping out the poor as non medical community service? It's not something I could find on each med school's website correct?

 

[Catalystik]

Catalystik, is there any way to find out which schools prefer helping out the poor as non medical community service? It's not something I could find on each med school's website correct?

The mission statement often gives a clue (see MSAR).