Henry Stickmin - Game Thread

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WildZoo said:
It was the true champs experience...similar thing happened during my qualifier last time, except village lost lol
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I actually thought Sporty might flip village because my reads were so bad this game, so I was justifying this by telling myself it was good practice with the majority format.

Kinda thought we'd hammer and just move on, and figured you & Sporty wouldn't hate having the night off before you leave tomorrow, either. Oops but also not oops.
 
alleycat03 said:
I was afraid to join VC on discord a few games ago in fear of revealing I was a wolf, meanwhile Bread and Sporty kept the secret from you *in person*? Impressive
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Yeah :laugh:

Maybe why they didn't want to check the thread around me too much 😛
 
PippyPony said:
I actually thought Sporty might flip village because my reads were so bad this game, so I was justifying this by telling myself it was good practice with the majority format.

Kinda thought we'd hammer and just move on, and figured you & Sporty wouldn't hate having the night off before you leave tomorrow, either. Oops but also not oops.
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Well I almost shot her last night instead of April :laugh:

Inb4 mods reveal I almost shot like 5 other people too
 
Animal Midwife said:
Dead is @SportPonies Sven Svensson, mafia

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TOWN WINS

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Roster
3. Mel - vanilla townie
4. Pippy - vanilla townie
5. sunshine - vanilla townie
6. Cray - vanilla townie
7. dubz - town 1x vigilante
8. Vis - vanilla townie
10. alley - town motion detector
13. mayo - vanilla townie
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Yay good job town village!
 
Melchizedek said:
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from my role PM:
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I won't quote all the many posts here but it was something like...

Mel because lulz > pippy because she asked > sporty because lulz and to see if she'll kill me irl > sunny because actual game reasons > april
 
WildZoo said:
Great game everyone!! 🙂

Sorry @Aprilthearab 😉

And I can't believe I've been under the same roof as wolves for basically the whole game :laugh:
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I thought I was doing a decent job compared to last game (the cycle length makes a huge difference) and was a bit salty to wake up to dead chat notifications, but now that I know it was you, the salt is gone knowing we have such a fantastic rep :biglove:
 
holdthemayo said:
I agree with point #1. April is definitely in the running for most improved player or best noob this year.

I've really enjoyed watching her improve every game.
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I would totally agree. April is great all around.

I do think I was picking up a lil sketch on her, but that was only isolated things by PbPa and she was doing something that emotionally made me not want to vote her, which pinged me, but was still a bit effective at getting me not to want to vote her. If she hadn't sus on me I think I would have been totally fooled. She had a lot of solid posts that struck me very village.
 
sunshinefl said:
Okay but....


Which If you really are village, you cleared her publicly based off a perceived difference. So one must exist for your statement to work as a villager. But also if you are a wolf, you may have also perceived or even have coached a difference.

also I thought telling WZ of all people to do that when she can’t do such a thing in the tournament... I’m glad she didn’t.
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I want to know what packs it is where you can coach another player to the point that that their *tone* across multiple points changes. I've offered in a million packs to proofread posts and almost never had it taken up.

I've also never seen that level of coaching or someone implement advice to that level.

Being a wolf tends to change tone but I've never seen one wolf affect another wolf's tone in this way ever.
 
Melchizedek said:
Lol since when is generating more data to analyze NOT good for village? It’s a data point amongst others, I don’t vote based on reaction tests alone and don’t advocate it, but if your analysis ends up in line with other things you find scummy or townie, then it strengthens your read.
I also have strong opinions on voting only when someone hits a threshold of evidence but I don’t want to derail the game, just wanted to capitalize on a teaching moment.
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I've really, really missed having you in games.
 
Viscernable said:
Not sure where to move to if it looks like mkg will be modkilled.

My concerns about alley have been mostly allayed by her explanation. Ditto for mayo’s D1 explanation of his tone change and apparent Dubz vote reasoning change.

I’m worried about mel in a very amorphous “I’ve only played with this guy once and he sounds like he did then - agreeable, helpful, but unpredictable and his thought process on many players is kind of mysterious, in a way that makes me worry he’s playing the thread with warm pockets and being allowed to get away with withholding analysis/reads and throwing out sus without fully explaining them” way. Dunno if that’s enough for me to feel comfortable voting him - nothing specifically has pinged me although there were a couple posts towards the beginning that people who’ve played with him more were troubled by. Also I kind of want to put down a vote on him when he has a chance to defend himself, not when he’s already behind and trying to catch up with less than an hour.

I’ve gone over a lot of things about z that have felt villagey or wolfy, and him pointing out that mkg will likely be modkilled is another teeny village point in my eyes (with the caveat that they could maybe be w/w). Leaning wolf but I don’t know that I want to go there yet. Admittedly I really enjoy village Z’s analysis and I’m always adverse to yeeting him unless I feel pretty confident he’s a wolf.

Sporty and Bread I’m neutral on. Haven’t had strong pings either way from anything they’
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Visc I thought you were pretty insightful this game
 
sunshinefl said:
The tie makers don’t die if I interpreted the rule correctly. It said ties are resolved by RNG which I assumed meant between the ones in the tie, not anyone involved. I could be wrong though.

Well, probably. Since when you said this, there were 7 people with active votes and 10 people on the board with votes at some point. (Are you using stats, or inside info tho? /s)

That was from day 1. I don’t delete anything from my reads. Only add. So you can become the #1 poster on the thread, exceeding the max daily, and I will still not remove that. And I’ve already explained in like 5 other games why that is my policy on my notes.

That was point #1. This post you commented on is that even if sincere/non sketchy I don’t think they’re very accurate except in very specific instances.
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Eh, like nothing we do in WW is very accurate. We have to do a LOT of things to get more accurate and win games as villagers - VCA (but account for bussing), NKA (but account for WIFOM/unknowns), PbPa (but still look at other things/holistics), every method on this list has its plusses and every one has a way it can be fail/be defeated/blindspots/weak points, so it's often only by a combination that one can make up for the flaws in each. This is true of reaction tests as well.
 
Crayola227 said:
Sorry I missed the hammering. I was tied up. Literally lol.
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Are you using literally like the kids use literally nowadays? Or do you literally mean literally? (don't answer that Q)

Hold on, I got something for this....

Are we still doing "phrasing"?

But since you set it up so nice and no one else will take a swing...."sounds like you didn't miss it"

Final answer.
 
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sunshinefl said:
But you had good village reads where others didn’t (me!!!)

and you were the most universally read village
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The village read from post tone/her analysis was enough to counter any wolfiness that might have been otherwise suspected from VCA or her reads being off. That's a great thing, because being able to be correctly read as village even when you're wrong is super useful. It's just a good way not to contribute to more misyeets which can be easy to do otherwise.
 
Crayola227 said:
Alley despite you seeming pretty busy this game I feel like you had some really solid posts, good reads, and some good votes
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I agree! Felt village vibes coming from alley which was a good thing to be able to lean on in addition to feeling like interactions with april about zenge weren't w/w
 
Aprilthearab said:
You were probably one of the most heavily village read players in this game! I know it might not mean much coming from a wolf but you sounded very villagey lol. After your D1 intro I really didn't have any leverage to use against you as a misyeet.
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sunshinefl said:
But you had good village reads where others didn’t (me!!!)

and you were the most universally read village
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Crayola227 said:
The village read from post tone/her analysis was enough to counter any wolfiness that might have been otherwise suspected from VCA or her reads being off. That's a great thing, because being able to be correctly read as village even when you're wrong is super useful. It's just a good way not to contribute to more misyeets which can be easy to do otherwise.
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Yes to all of this. Being correctly identified as village and correctly identifying other villagers is just as important 🙂 removing yourself from the potential misyeet pool is a big deal.
 
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