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pathstudent,

what you are not thinking about is that most people will not be going to a top 10 school. so u are comparing apples and oranges. but compare any school that's not ranked to a DO school like COMP< NYCOM< etc and there is really not much of difference. ( there's usually not such a big difference between them in entrance stats)

when i was applying to the school that i will be going to (DO) i compared it with other sc hools in my area like Downstate, NYMC, etc. i can't say that there is a significant difference in match results.

just a thought!
susan
 
And the award for the most useless post of the year goes to....

Here is stanford's match list. What Osteo School can even produce 15% of this?

Now go take some candy from a baby.

:laugh:
 
Stanford would put anyone to shame.
 
It's good to see that you don't need any help patting yourself on the back. 🙄
 
Pathstudent...

wow.....I would definitely have to agree with this being the most useless and I'm guessing you put the "path" in pathetic post of the year.

Med school is what you make of it.....I hope showing off to your DO counterparts isn't something that gets you off...because we are all going to be physicians and will work together no matter what. And it's comments like this that take away from the focus of becoming a physician and medicine...and that is improving the quality of life of the patient and prevention. I guess telling people to quit saying nonsense like this is like the never-ending "war on terrorism"...so I wont say this. But let's act like we are actually going to become professionals...and not keep the competitive undergrad mentality.

I respect anybody that respects my decisions and doesn't want to show off and put me down.

Lets be respectable.

Mani
NSUCOM Class of 2007
 
Pathstudent, I will laugh at you if you really have strong enough credentials to get into Stanford and are still THAT insecure.

everybody knows Stanford is an incredible school, most people on this forum would love to go there and can't, I am sure you know that.

maybe when you win your nobel you will relax a little and leave the rest of us alone.
get over yourself.

As for everyone else, if you're going to DO school, work hard, be the best DO you can be, and if you're feeling insecure about your choice sometimes, just remind yourself that the guy at Stanford has even less self-confidence than you do.
 
Originally posted by callie13

As for everyone else, if you're going to DO school, work hard, be the best DO you can be, and if you're feeling insecure about your choice sometimes, just remind yourself that the guy at Stanford has even less self-confidence than you do.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That's priceless!!!
 
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pathstudent,

you're pathetic
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
OOPS!

Yeah that about sums up your entire post.

Comparing Stanford to osteopathic schools. What's next? Seeing how well people match at Harvard compared to Ross University?

Good thing pathology doesn't deal with patients. What a *****.
 
Bring it on!

I can take it.

If you want to compare apples and apples, then go get the match list from the #1 osteo school in the country and compare it to Stanford's.



Then tell me which you would shoot for.
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
Bring it on!

I can take it.

If you want to compare apples and apples, then go get the match list from the #1 osteo school in the country and compare it to Stanford's.

Then tell me which you would shoot for.

Do you even understand what osteopathy is? If a D.O. school is fulfilling its philosophy, there should be more matches in primary care residencies relative to an allopathic school and hence a "less impressive match list" for superficial premeds to argue over. You can't compare the two fields no matter what ranking each school is.

As for comparing your intelligence to that of small rodents, I think that is a topic where we can come up with some pretty precise answers (I think many of us have already completed the hypothesis stage of that research). I don't know what you are trying to accomplish, and it surely isn't anything enlightening to SDN readers.
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
Bring it on!

I can take it.


oooooohhh, its already been broughten! *snap* *followed by emfeminate head wobble*
 
pathstudent:

please do take it.

and shove it.
 
I call BS. First I didn't bring this up but someone else posed a question earlier today "why only Allo". So I responded.

Then someone posted a match list that was supposed to be so impressive (by the way, there was a lot of non-primary care matches there. So evidently, Osteo isn't gearing you up for Primary Care) So I just posted a real match list.

You all are the ones freaking out.
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
Bring it on!

I can take it.

Take what? People saying things about you on a message board? Wow, your tolerance for pain must be legendary. 🙄

If you want to compare apples and apples, then go get the match list from the #1 osteo school in the country and compare it to Stanford's.

Then tell me which you would shoot for.

This whole thread has to exist solely for the purpose to start a flame war. You can't possibly really think like that. I will say this though, if Stanford is packed with students like you, I'll take a DO school any day. Life is too short to have to deal with hyper-testosterone geeks on a daily basis ("dont be coming in here with that weak stuff"? are you kidding??).

I can actually picture you high-fiving yourself after submitting that post, sticking your chest out at the computer screaming, "Yeah! Stanford, baby! Whatcha know about that, kid?!?!" 😉
 
Originally posted by Fenrezz
Good thing pathology doesn't deal with patients. What a *****.

Now I wasn't personally single out in this thread but as a future pathologist I have to say that contrary to popular belief there are pathologists (Like the one that did my thyroid biopsy last year) that do in fact deal with patients quite a bit

To address the question of why MD versus DO, I want a career in research and unfortunately where you received your education is very important. Otherwise I'd gladly apply for DO/PhD programs in addition to MD/PhD programs, get my full funding, and go on with my research career. Now I'm sure DO/PhD's will one day receive the respect they deserve but that day just hasn't come yet and I don't see it happening in the near future.
 
As a Stanford med student, I'd like to apologize for the original poster (if he/she is indeed Stanford affiliated). The above post in no way reflects the attitude of the majority of my class. Sure, we're all proud of our seniors and how well they matched, just as many other students around the coutry from both allopathic and osteopathic schools also matched well. School pride is one thing, but the original post was out of line in my opinion.

Peace
 
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As good as Stanford's match list is... Harvard's and Hopkins are even better.
 
sorry, but I applied only allo and I don't feel ashamed of it at all. I am now at Tufts in Boston, where many students on the recent match list matched (oft. in primary care) at Harvard affiliates, Columbia, Cornell, U Penn, UCSF, Yale, UCLA, and many other well-recognized places. I am interested in primary care (peds or IM) but will take those matches over any osteopathic school that I know of. I just feel that I personally would receive better post-graduate training at a more prestigious MD residency program than I would at say, KCOM affiliates in MO. but if someone feels comfortable and happy going osteopathic and in the kind of environment that osteopathic schools provide (oft. rural with lots of families) then more power to them. it just isn't a great fit for me. I don't think that wanting to get a good residency in any field makes someone a greedy jerk. I personally think that MD students and DO students shouldn't have to justify their school choice to one another.. I don't have enough experience to know if attendings in various hospitals care, but I know the patients don't (esp. in places where they are poor and don't have a bunch of Harvard alum catering to them). so just go with whatever feels more comfortable to you, for me it was allopathic, for you it may not be.
 
I think all of this allo vs. osteo bashing comes from two sources: insecurity and lack of exposure. I loved the comment I recently heard -"I applied to only allo because I'm a science person - I'd rather take classes in microbiology and other real sciences than that abstract stuff' (which we all know is off the mark) Hopefully, wherever you're applying, you know what you're getting yourself into and would be proud to be affiliated with it - the goal is to find the best fit for you, not to regress to third grade and say "my diploma is better than yours"
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
Bring it on!

I can take it.

Then tell me which you would shoot for.

I have the sights of my rifle aimed at your nutsack, that is what I am trying to shoot for. Unfortunately there is no magnifying lens in existence that would allow someone to target "sus cojones" (for those Spanish speakers out there) from any distance.
 
The whole point of this thread (if there is one) is the OP was responding to what someone else had posted a few days earlier, about why people choose to apply to allo schools only:

The thread

I responded on that thread and explained why I thought people would only want to apply to allopathic schools. Personally, I have no problem with anyone who does. It all comes down to your preference. In fact, I respect anyone who has the patience and desire to choose a career in medicine, even those who would never apply to DO school (my roommate back home was one of them).

My only problem with this thread is how illogical it is to justify applying only to allopathic schools by comparing match lists of a superb top 5 MD school with any osteopathic school.

Most of the DO bashing that goes on here is done by a small vocal minority of students who know very little about the profession. Most of the pre-allo's on here are knowledgeable about osteopathy and either a) respect DO's in general, or b) don't respect them, but also don't bother making themselves look foolish by bashing them all the time, as evidenced by some of the responses on this thread.

If you don't like osteopathy, that's fine. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. If your reasons are valid, then I respect that completely. The posts that usually start the flame wars are when the ignorant people start talking about how you can't specialize as a DO, or that no one respects DO's, all MD's look down on DO's, etc. Not only is it not true, but there are pre-med students that are influenced by what they read on here (as scary as that thought is 😉 ).
 
Let's discuss a larger issue.

I think that discussing a school's match rate or USMLE pass rate is pointless. The school doesn't match, the student does. Just attending Stanford won't do it for you unless you work it.

Furthernore, when we are comparing a 99% pass rate versus a 92% rate, how statistically meaningful is that difference?

In the end, the school can only be as effective as the student.

How's that for cliched wisdom?
 
pathstudent,

You're a dope. I doubt you are a REAL Stanford student, because they have intelligence and your post showed that you have none. I understand that you may have harsh feelings towards DO schools (maybe cause you didn't get into any), but at least pose a credible argument. You use innane statistics and faulty logic to prove a point--are you even a science major? Maybe you should go back into your undergrad texts and go over the chapter on the scientific method again--because you clearly didn't get it.

Anyway, if you want to be a troll on SDN--fine. But you will see shortly what happens to trolls on these boards (he says as he scratches the bottom of his chin with the back of his hand)
 
pathstudent, I didn't realize that you were such a bad poster 'til now...I see why you're one of the nay-sayers on my thread...

To the Stanford student: thank you for letting us know about that...Stanford's one of my top 3 as of right now (well, they're all tied for #1 at this point), and I do hope that most of the students aren't dim-witted snobs like pathstudent.

I was about to consider Osteo over Allo from pathstudent's posts. Pre-Osteo people sure seem to be a lot nicer and more mature.
 
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Hey pathstudent,

did you know that no one at hopkins this year matched into derm. But guess what, someone at st. georges did...oooooooooooooooooo.......have fun in grenada
 
Once again I would like to reiterate that this post was in response to the one that said "why only allo".

I didn't make any personal attacks on anybody.

It sure seems like there is a lot of mean people going to Osteo School.

Bring it on!
 
Oops!

I mean "there are a lot of mean people" of course, before people start freaking about that
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
Oops!

I mean "there are a lot of mean people" of course, before people start freaking about that

You forget to tell us to bring it on.
 
Originally posted by pathstudent
Once again I would like to reiterate that this post was in response to the one that said "why only allo".

I didn't make any personal attacks on anybody.

It sure seems like there is a lot of mean people going to Osteo School.

Bring it on!

They're only mean because you're mean. Or perhaps you need to work on your memory skills? Re-read what you wrote beforehand dude...maybe you've got a split-personality disorder or something 😛
 
Originally posted by LUBDUBB
Hey pathstudent,

did you know that no one at hopkins this year matched into derm. But guess what, someone at st. georges did...oooooooooooooooooo.......have fun in grenada

Now I KNOW you dont want to compare Hopkins, Stanford, or Harvard match list vs St. Georges, any carib school, or any DO school for that matter. Those allo schools would wipe the floor with them.

besides, derm sucks. who wants to spend all day looking at people's hairy moles and warts?
 
Originally posted by MacGyver
Now I KNOW you dont want to compare Hopkins, Stanford, or Harvard match list vs St. Georges, any carib school, or any DO school for that matter. Those allo schools would wipe the floor with them.

besides, derm sucks. who wants to spend all day looking at people's hairy moles and warts?

Hehe, I'll assume that you meant that sarcastically, though I also think that derm sucks 😀

After all, Derm is one of the hardest (if not the hardest) specialties to get into!
 
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