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Goodness gracious, I am so jelly of all y'all who are done with the semester already! I'm in my last week of classes and still have finals after that.

Then it's sit down and get the DAT and apps done time. That'll probably take 2.5 months (end of July exam date).

Not gonna be fun...but I'm excited to finish everything and apply! Well, nervous is more accurate. I'm definitely not sitting on a 3.97 like glimmer here. 😛

(Although I could still match her DAT scores...potentially...just like I could win a million dollars tomorrow...potentially :laugh:)
 
Thank you, everyone! However, cost is a HUGE consideration for me. I am also not all that enamored with prestige. I went to a prestigious undergrad and quickly found out it just wasn't the best fit for me; I transferred very quickly to an almost entirely "unknown" undergrad and am completely happy with my decision. Even if my current school doesn't have the rep of my old one, I know that I have been 100% prepared for this next step in my life. I'm not saying that the prestigious schools are bad by ANY means, but my smaller institution is so much better for me. I'm the involved type who likes to ask questions, know my professors, etc.

No matter my dental school, I have full faith that I'll be prepared to be a dentist. Like I said earlier, so much of it just depends on how much you involve yourself!

I agree with you completely. I think don't think that prestige is all it's cracked up to be...it's more about fit and how much you involve yourself. I went to a prestigious undergrad and had the worst time until I decided I needed to suck it up and get more involved or transfer. Luckily that worked out for me.

If you're taking on debt, cost should 100% be the #1 consideration IMO. Everything else is secondary/can be worked on.

Location is usually what people talk about re: why I don't want to attend a certain school. My attitude: don't like the place the school is located? Move after you're done.

I'll probably end up at a private school due to my GPA. I've talked to the adcom from my state school (it's not even our state school, but a small # of people from my state get in-state tuition) and he said my GPA was not really what they look for because competition is super high, but it is what it is. I'll do my best and see what I get.

During my reading of the 2013 ADEA guide the past few days, and online research, I'm pretty sure UCLA and Univ. of Kentucky give out all sorts of scholarships, both before school and during. Have you purchased this year's ADEA guide?

Where are you finding this scholarship info? I'm having trouble using my ADEA manual. :laugh:

Then again, I have the 2012 version. I doubt it's worth it to purchase the 2013 version.

With that sexy DAT, you can send your personal statement to my inbox any day. All jokes aside, I am proof reading for two people at the moment. PM me if you'd like some edits. I've edited approximately close to 40 personal statements lol.

Ooo, I will definitely send my statement your way after I get done writing it. It'll be a hot mess and need some TLC. :luck:

Hopefully, nothing weird will happen to me as I never had any major grade issues and I think I have a decent balance between stats and ECs.

How does one know whether he/she has decent EC's or not?

I feel like mine are okay, but I really don't know what to expect.

I really do need to do more shadowing, though. I only have like 50 hours so far.

On the topic of tuition, what does everyone think about DDS/PhD?

Have you done research? How much? Do you like research? How much?

I was heavily involved in a research lab last year and it made me realize that I didn't want to do just a PhD. Up until that point I had been confused. I would say that even if you really love research, get as involved with research as humanly possible and then you will know whether it's for you or not. I don't know too much about professional degree + PhD programs, but I have been told by a friend (who is going to leave his PhD program early with just a master's at the end of this semester) that 50% of people starting out PhD's don't finish. It's really not for everyone.
 
UCSF, UConn, VCU. There's a sticky attached to this forum that tells you what schools are OOS-friendly. One of "doc toothache's" many Excel documents point out the OOS-friendly schools as well. Don't bother applying to schools you wouldn't attend, due to costs, even if it were the only school that you were accepted to. Fortunately, UConn is not only OOS-friendly, especially if you're from the New England area, but it is also very affordable. Some state-subsidized schools are losing funding and their tuition rates are now approaching that of private schools. In today's economic climate with high tuition rates, high interest rates, decreased dentist-to-patient ratio, lower insurance reimbursements, rapidly changing profession with midlevel providers and socialized healthcare, decreased number of procedures per patient, and the emergence of nontraditional (lacking research which stigmatize dental schools as vocational schools) private dental schools, cost should be your most significant overarching factor.

If you're applying to a Texas school using TMDSAS, you as might as well add the other Texas schools.
Thank you for all the info.

I'm not a Texas resident. Do I have to use TMDSAS to apply to Baylor? I thought it was only for Texas residents.
 
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
 
Here we go indeed! Hello everyone!

I've been a lurker since january and this is my very first post. *yay*. Im so excited to get started. I just finished the DAT on monday and now I am attempting to put together a list of schools to apply to. So far I have (bold i am sure about applying to and regular I am considering looking into):

Nova
UF
UOP
UCLA
U-Penn
Howard
UNC
VCU
UMDNJ
U-conn
StonyBrook
Columbia

I am a NY resident but I'm planning on getting FL residency as I currently go to school here. I have a 3.65 sGPA and 3.73 oGPA and a 21AA DAT.

Any suggestions or recommendations? 🙂
 
great stats man. If I had stats like that, I would just apply to the cheap places that I would think about going to. Maybe throw in Columbia/Harvard for pride sake if you have the money to waste. ahaha
 
great stats man. If I had stats like that, I would just apply to the cheap places that I would think about going to. Maybe throw in Columbia/Harvard for pride sake if you have the money to waste. ahaha
haha for sure! that is the main reason why U-penn and Columbia is up there to be honest. What cheap schools do you suggest?
 
haha for sure! that is the main reason why U-penn and Columbia is up there to be honest. What cheap schools do you suggest?

Marquette and Buffalo are two very cheap state schools that allow in-state residency after 1st year, but it's tough to get in as out of state applicants. I think they're both around 240k all expenses included. UPenn is around 400k+, Columbia is probably 380k? Correct me if I'm wrong. Harvard is surprisingly not bad, tuition wise, for an ivy league, but good luck trying to find cheap housing lol. I'd apply to Louisville also if I were you. And you can fulfill my dream of going there lol. All the state schools are decently cheap compared to the private institutions, but they're so much tougher to get into. Except Minnesota. Forget Minnesota lol. It's a state school but it's deceptively expensive with hidden fees from summer semesters lol.
 
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Thank you KittySquared! I have heard good things about marquette since I was in middle school. I just totally forgot about it lol. And i will definitely look into buffalo and since I am already a NY resident its probably a safe bet money wise. I will also look into Louisville just for you 😀. Thanks for the suggestions!
 
Thank you KittySquared! I have heard good things about marquette since I was in middle school. I just totally forgot about it lol. And i will definitely look into buffalo and since I am already a NY resident its probably a safe bet money wise. I will also look into Louisville just for you 😀. Thanks for the suggestions!

Marquette is tough to get in though. They're stingy with out of state applicants. Michigan is also ok, but still on the pricier side if you ask me. Oh, if you're a NY resident you def have a chance at Buffalo!! If you're interviewed as an in stater at Buffalo, there's an 85% chance you'll get in according to my slightly older ADEA guidebook. You will only have like 200K all expenses included which is disgustingly good cause d-school tuition is still on the rise. The cheaper the better!

Do you mean in-state or also out of state tuition? Changing residency in most states is hard, no?
Even as an out of state attendee for 4 years, most state schools are still cheaper than the private institutions. NY is very easy to gain in-state residency after a year, Pennsylvania, you can forget it. I think Florida is also not difficult to get in-state tuition after 1st year. Texas all you have to do is live there for a year to be in-state, but if you aren't instate right now, you can forget about getting in. But it's so worth it to live in Texas and gain residency and THEN apply to Texas schools because you'll graduate with less than 100K debt which is just ridiculously good.
 
Marquette is tough to get in though. They're stingy with out of state applicants. Michigan is also ok, but still on the pricier side if you ask me. Oh, if you're a NY resident you def have a chance at Buffalo!! If you're interviewed as an in stater at Buffalo, there's an 85% chance you'll get in according to my slightly older ADEA guidebook. You will only have like 200K all expenses included which is disgustingly good cause d-school tuition is still on the rise. The cheaper the better!


Even as an out of state attendee for 4 years, most state schools are still cheaper than the private institutions. NY is very easy to gain in-state residency after a year, Pennsylvania, you can forget it. I think Florida is also not difficult to get in-state tuition after 1st year. Texas all you have to do is live there for a year to be in-state, but if you aren't instate right now, you can forget about getting in. But it's so worth it to live in Texas and gain residency and THEN apply to Texas schools because you'll graduate with less than 100K debt which is just ridiculously good.

Thank you so much! You have a wealth of knowledge! 😍
 
Oh, if you're a NY resident you def have a chance at Buffalo!! If you're interviewed as an in stater at Buffalo, there's an 85% chance you'll get in according to my slightly older ADEA guidebook. You will only have like 200K all expenses included which is disgustingly good cause d-school tuition is still on the rise. The cheaper the better!

Thanks! I have added Buffalo to my list because it makes ridiculous sense when it comes to expenses. That Buffalo weather is definitely going to be a huge adjustment after spending undergrad in Miami though! :laugh:
 
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