Why?
The statement that the average DO matriculant has a lower MCAT score than the average MD matriculant is a fact. THIS IS A FACT. People can draw whatever conclusions they want. I don't think anybody is stupid enough to think that all DO students have lower MCAT scores than all MD students. Saying that the best DO schools have comparable averages to the worst MD schools does not say much for your argument. (Yes as much as people hate to admit it there are good and bad MD schools as there are good and bad DO schools.)
You are missing the entire point of my argument, which doesn't surprise me. Too often on SDN people only want their opinion mirrored back at them and forget to really read a post. I never said 'on average, DO MCAT is not lower than MD.' What I said was that lumping everything together is foolish (which I explained in my examples-which once again, I never claimed were fact).
Also, I was not claiming that Western was the best DO school and that I was comparing the best DO programs to the worst MD programs. I don't judge programs based on the average matriculating MCAT. I think most Med students will agree that things such as clinical sites, location, and cost are much more important when choosing a DO school.
I also think it is important for you to realize that, although the MCAT is a good indicator of the ability to perform in medical school, it by no means determines the quality of an institution or reflect the type of physicians that come from said school. I've seen you hawking this MCAT issue around here before and you can say whatever you want about the averages if it makes you feel better, but my point was that using averages doesn't define DO students (or MD students) as a whole, nor does the MCAT equate to quality of a medical school.
This example is flawed, because it is not a fact.
Nope, wasn't trying to claim it as fact, simply making an example to reflect my point that broad generalizations rarely define the quality of something as specific as an individual or school.
If the statement were a fact, aka true, then I would admit that it is true. Just because the statement does not apply to me it becomes foolish? No.
So if you were a student at a DO school with a 36 MCAT and I said 'DO students perform lower on the MCAT than MD students, on average' you wouldn't feel inclined to speak up and say 'No that generalization is biased and I know this because I got a 36 on the MCAT?' I find that hard to believe.
(No where did I say 'all,' but the statement is loaded and I feel that most people in the situation would comment)
If he assumed the average DO applicant had a lower MCAT than the average MD applicant than his assumption was entirely correct.
Maybe you need to grow some thicker skin man. I'm afraid I just don't understand this vendetta you have concerning DO MCAT averages? Are you really that bothered that specific DO students score very high on the MCAT and ergo need everyone to know that on average the scores are slightly lower. I'm afraid I just don't understand why you have such a problem with this issue.
Understand the distinction between average and all. All DO students do not have lower MCAT scores than all MD students. The average DO student does.
Agreed. But once again you missed my point. By saying average people automatically think of one complete sect being lower than another (ie DO lower than MD). I may have made some points that would be considered 'all' instead of 'average' but I didn't hear anything about individual students in previous argument so until then I'll assume most people want to assume all MD students perform better than DO students which is where I take issue.
I am not offended and the intention of this post is not to offend you.
Thank you. I was not offended by any of your posts and I am glad you weren't offended by mine.
You know where I stand with respect to DO schools.
Actually, to be honest, I don't. I'm naturally assuming you a pre-med only applying allo and your comments lead me to believe you generally think MD > DO.
I have no problem with MD schools, DO schools, Carribean schools, Alternative medicine, or Stewart University SOM. I do have a problem with people who cannot handle the facts and try to imply that they are not true.
Once again, I don't think people (myself included) deny there is a slight difference in averages, but I think you're taking this 'fact' (the way you keep phrasing that makes me laugh) and inferring different things from this. Also, in the US, a DO is legally granted all rights as MDs so the whole alternative medicine or it being some sort of wanna be MD just isn't 'fact.'
