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MIKE G said:Anyone apply to that UC Irvine PRIME-LC program?
I actually got schedule for an interivew at UCI and then the coordinator of the PRIME-LC program called me up to ask me to apply. Needless to say I was shocked to recieve any sort of good news from them, let alone have them ask me to apply to one of their programs! I said yes because it sounded great but now I'm wondering what the benefit to having that Master's degree would be? Could you not do the same things having only an M.D.? If anyone has any feedback on this I'd REALLY appreciate it, I'm trying to fill out the app now...MIKE G said:Lets not let this forum die....
Whatre updates on ppls interviews and such?
Anyone apply to that UC Irvine PRIME-LC program?
cammy1313 said:I actually got schedule for an interivew at UCI and then the coordinator of the PRIME-LC program called me up to ask me to apply. Needless to say I was shocked to recieve any sort of good news from them, let alone have them ask me to apply to one of their programs! I said yes because it sounded great but now I'm wondering what the benefit to having that Master's degree would be? Could you not do the same things having only an M.D.? If anyone has any feedback on this I'd REALLY appreciate it, I'm trying to fill out the app now...
Anyone???cammy1313 said:I actually got schedule for an interivew at UCI and then the coordinator of the PRIME-LC program called me up to ask me to apply. Needless to say I was shocked to recieve any sort of good news from them, let alone have them ask me to apply to one of their programs! I said yes because it sounded great but now I'm wondering what the benefit to having that Master's degree would be? Could you not do the same things having only an M.D.? If anyone has any feedback on this I'd REALLY appreciate it, I'm trying to fill out the app now...
Thanks, P.D. 🙂PeruvianDoctor said:Just applied, that would be great if I got to meet some of you, my friend just got an interview and said that they wanted to take all the PRIMELC applicants out to lunch, which I though was kinda cool. Anyways, as for the master's questions, I would say no, it probably isn't that beneficial, they just want to give you some incentive, the only reason i applied is the fact that it would be hypocritical to say I want to work with Latinos and NOT apply to the program. Anyways, the rumor is that only 20 people applied last year and 8 got in... Good luck to you all.
El Peruano
MsEvolution said:Ok, here's my update...
DMU -- Received admission email Friday. Yay!
COMP -- Received letter stating I'm on hold... will let me know on January 30, 2005
UW -- Interviewed there on Friday. Totally feeling like I got raked over the coals... I have no idea if they loved me or hated me. **stress!!**
Medical College of Wisconsin -- Have an interview for January 7th.
DMU was excellent news... I LOVE the school and would have a hard time choosing between them and UW (if I get accepted to UW).
Ok, going back now to listen to my Camilo Sesto CD and washing the dishes...
MIKE G said:About prime-lc at uci:
I met the director this past Saturday...nice guy and also met a 1st year that had done the Mexico trip thing over the summer and she loved it.
I think its a good idea, definitely the M.S. wont help you for **** BUT the information that you will gain from the extra classes (policy / public health kind of stuff geared toward the latino community) would definitely help you towards your goal of doing more than just treating latino patients and instead helping the whole latino community...Also you would be doing more things geared towards the Latino community...
I also asked him what if I changed my mind and wanted to specialize instead of doing primary care, and he said that it doesn't really matter. Its made to get more general practicioners BUT either way it not necessarily a bad thing to have someone that has been through this program to specialize (ex/ opthamologist that helps the latino/underserved community)
But then I dunno...I guess I would rather have a MPH....
I plan to apply for this come June.
Yeah, it seems a little fishy. I just finished getting my Masters degree, thesis and all, and I would LOVE to take this coursework without having to embark on another thesis crusade. I'll be interviewing next month so I will try to find out about how rigorous the extra courses are, and if it is reasonable to take the courses out of interest without pursuing the MS degree.Jeffy said:Not to get hung-up on details or anything here, but it just seems kinda silly that they award you an M.S. after finishing the program. Are they just trying to give an M.P.H. in Community Health withouth having a Public Health School?
how are you doing peruano? saludos departe de otro peruano aca en los angeles. I'm currently a first year student at Western/COMP and I just wanted to say hello to all the fellow hispanic premeds out there. UCI Prime-LC is an awesome program, but competitive to get into. Also as non-URM applicants, it can get difficult for non-mexicans, cubans, african americans, etc, to get in based on politics more than anything else. However if you are good, you are good no matter what and remember at the end of the day it doesn't really matter where you go to school (unless you want to get into research), what matters is residency....best of luck to you and if anyone wants more info about the med school application process and/or COMP PM me.PeruvianDoctor said:Just applied, that would be great if I got to meet some of you, my friend just got an interview and said that they wanted to take all the PRIMELC applicants out to lunch, which I though was kinda cool. Anyways, as for the master's questions, I would say no, it probably isn't that beneficial, they just want to give you some incentive, the only reason i applied is the fact that it would be hypocritical to say I want to work with Latinos and NOT apply to the program. Anyways, the rumor is that only 20 people applied last year and 8 got in... Good luck to you all.
El Peruano
MIKE G said:Yeah there are tons of peruvians on this forum...
Btw, the admissions person from UCI told me that peruvians are considered underrepresented...she said "now they are" as in I guess that new definition as vague as it is, does indeed contain us lowly incas....
Well, I think the bottom line is, who cares what everyone else thinks. You've done nothing wrong and if where your father was born had any influence on your application, would your really take that away? It is so unbelievable difficult to get into medical school, in large part because a significant amount of students are admitted because of one string or another they have pulled. There is no shame in using every asset afforded you to help you get in because if anyone else had a cuban heritage to take advantage of I guarantee that they would. Moral of the story, every person who's life you better won't think twice about where you came from so why should you?docwannabe2 said:Hi all... I wanted to get your opinion on something. One of my friends is applying to school next year, and we were talking about applications and stuff the other night. I was saying how I was sure she'd have a lot of luck since our applications are basically exactly the same, and I've had pretty good luck this application cycle. She responded with: "Well, no offense, but I'm not hispanic." I got so angry. I'm of cuban heritage, and I don't think that's even considered an URM, but I just got so upset to think that others will look at my acceptances as a result of my father's birthplace as opposed to my hard work. What do you all think? Have you had to deal with this type of situation before? I assume it's all a product of the affirmative action mentality, but I'm just so mad...
docwannabe2 said:Hi all... I wanted to get your opinion on something. One of my friends is applying to school next year, and we were talking about applications and stuff the other night. I was saying how I was sure she'd have a lot of luck since our applications are basically exactly the same, and I've had pretty good luck this application cycle. She responded with: "Well, no offense, but I'm not hispanic." I got so angry. I'm of cuban heritage, and I don't think that's even considered an URM, but I just got so upset to think that others will look at my acceptances as a result of my father's birthplace as opposed to my hard work. What do you all think? Have you had to deal with this type of situation before? I assume it's all a product of the affirmative action mentality, but I'm just so mad...
MIKE G said:First of all your stats are awesome according to your profile...33 mcat and 3.9+ gpa. Those are probably the most solid scores you can get...don't know what you're complaining about.
MIKE G said:Secondly, you ARE a URM...Cubans have URM status.
MIKE G said:Just tell the people that think you had it easy (as in getting into med school) and just spit out your stats, and that will be impressive enough.
docwannabe2 said:Hi all... I wanted to get your opinion on something. One of my friends is applying to school next year, and we were talking about applications and stuff the other night. I was saying how I was sure she'd have a lot of luck since our applications are basically exactly the same, and I've had pretty good luck this application cycle. She responded with: "Well, no offense, but I'm not hispanic." I got so angry. I'm of cuban heritage, and I don't think that's even considered an URM, but I just got so upset to think that others will look at my acceptances as a result of my father's birthplace as opposed to my hard work. What do you all think? Have you had to deal with this type of situation before? I assume it's all a product of the affirmative action mentality, but I'm just so mad...
No, they don't necessarily have URM status. About the only minority groups that you can really be sure are considered URM are African-Americans, Mexican-American and Puerto Rican Latinos, and Native Americans. Just because someone has a hispanic surname doesn't make them URM. Hispanics of Cuban descent don't make up that large of a percentage of the US population, so it doesn't take that many physicians to represent them in medicine. It does help to be of hispanic descent since many of us are bilingual and have at least some minimal cultural commonality.MIKE G said:Secondly, you ARE a URM...Cubans have URM status.
MIKE G said:Yeah there are tons of peruvians on this forum...
Btw, the admissions person from UCI told me that peruvians are considered underrepresented...she said "now they are" as in I guess that new definition as vague as it is, does indeed contain us lowly incas....
I looked on the AAMC website, and I can't find anything about the new definition of URM that mentions specific minority groups. The definition of URM that the AAMC has posted only restates the obvious that URM is "underrepresented in medicine"; that is, groups whose representation as physicians is less than their proportion of the US population would warrant.Dr. Don said:i believe the new definition of URM does include south americans, central, mexicans, as URMs' check it out on AAMC. alright people late
Dr. Don said:i believe the new definition of URM does include south americans, central, mexicans, as URMs' check it out on AAMC. alright people late
jules0328 said:Wait, Mike G...are you serious about this URM status thing, or are you just trolling us along for the ride?
So wait, would this URM status for Peruanos be considered per school or is it like for all schools. In other words, would you put URM on your app?
acl3623 said:hold on...i just found this "new definition" on the website. its in a pdf file...its weird though it doesnt really say what a URM is really...
http://www.aamc.org/meded/urm/start.htm
The Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) Executive Committee adopted a clarification (PDF, 2 pages - 44 KB) to its definition of "underrepresented in medicine" on March 19, 2004, titled "The status of the new AAMC definition of 'underrepresented in medicine' following the Supreme Court's decision in Grutter."
The Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) definition of underrepresented in medicine is:
"Underrepresented in medicine means those racial and ethnic populations that are underrepresented in the medical profession relative to their numbers in the general population."
Adopted by the AAMC's Executive Council on June 26, 2003, the definition helps medical schools accomplish three important objectives:
a shift in focus from a fixed aggregation of four racial and ethnic groups to a continually evolving underlying reality. The definition accommodates including and removing underrepresented groups on the basis of changing demographics of society and the profession,
a shift in focus from a national perspective to a regional or local perspective on underrepresentation, and
stimulate data collection and reporting on the broad range of racial and ethnic self-descriptions.
Before June 26, 2003, the AAMC used the term "underrepresented minority (URM)," which consisted of Blacks, Mexican-Americans, Native Americans (that is, American Indians, Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians), and mainland Puerto Ricans. The AAMC remains committed to ensuring access to medical education and medicine-related careers for individuals from these four historically underrepresented racial/ethnic groups.
So who knows!>? im confused...i know that when i talked to the aamc this summer when i submitted my amcas they told me i was not a URM (im guatemalan)...but ive talked to admissions people that say it is at their discretion as to what actual nationalities bring people into the realm of URM applicants...

cammy1313 said:After recently filling out apps for programs that target underserved communities (i.e. PRIME-LC, Drew/UCLA), I was just curious how the rest of you thought we'd best be able to make an impact on these areas as physicians? After having lived in Peru (I'm from Lima) I KNOW I want to do SOMETHING to aid the Hispanic community. I have these overly-ambitious goals of having a private practice while volunteering at free clinics in the disadvantaged parts of southern California. We just need to get doctors to want to work in the ghettos, but how?
the other Dr. said:We need to change policy! One thing we need is more incentives to work in low-income areas. Originally I thought I could make a big difference by opening free-clinics and programs to overcome barriers to care, but I will need to know how to do this, so I will get my MPH or Master of Health Policy. One person can make a huge differnce, but it's really hard to get programs started without funding or community support. Whatever I do I believe I will need to be involved in politics as a least some level, lobbying why it is so important to provide care to all people. What are other people's thoughts?
CreativeWriter said:We not only need to change policy, but we need more Hispanics in academic medicine, basic science research, politics, and other areas. I must certainly agree...you can have all good intentions, but if you don't have the backup, resources, network, etc from different perspectives...it's uphill to make a change! but not impossible. definitely keep that in mind when considering medical schools, as I think it's an important aspect. While the incentive to work in low-income areas is idealistic, do know that becoming a physician is a career of service. You should not serve a community because of the incentive you receive. But rather, for the passion and commitment that have you have towards that community. they have programs that pay-off your medical school dept, I believe is the National Health Service Corps, if you decide to do medical work in a medically undeserved communtiy.
Best,
Ahora lo que tengo que hacer es prepararme para la entrev., aparte del interview feedback, ustedes que recomiendan? Gracias por la info! 😀 😀 Tristy said:Hola muchachos!!
No lo puedo evitar pero tengo que escribirlo aqui, todavia estoy que no lo creo! Recibi una invitacion para entrevistar en Dartmouth!! Hoy volvimos de donde mis suegros y ahi estaba en el buzon 😀 si no fuera por el dvd que mandan yo ya creia que era una rejectionAhora lo que tengo que hacer es prepararme para la entrev., aparte del interview feedback, ustedes que recomiendan? Gracias por la info! 😀 😀
(todavia tengo una sonrisa estupida plantada en la cara, jejeje)
Tristy said:Hola muchachos!!
No lo puedo evitar pero tengo que escribirlo aqui, todavia estoy que no lo creo! Recibi una invitacion para entrevistar en Dartmouth!! Hoy volvimos de donde mis suegros y ahi estaba en el buzon 😀 si no fuera por el dvd que mandan yo ya creia que era una rejectionAhora lo que tengo que hacer es prepararme para la entrev., aparte del interview feedback, ustedes que recomiendan? Gracias por la info! 😀 😀
(todavia tengo una sonrisa estupida plantada en la cara, jejeje)
CreativeWriter said:Hey Tristy, Congratulations on your Dartmouth interview. I interviewed there, and was accepted for thei Dartmouth-Brown Program. Email me if you have any questions!
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Tristy said:Hi Creative! Thanks, I am really thrilled that they invited me, although I don't have too much hope because my MCAT is a tiny 28, and as I saw on the profiles pages all the people with 28's&29's were rejected. Nonetheless I am excited to get to visit another state! I will definitely PM you, thank you! 😀
PS: And congrats on your acceptance 👍
CreativeWriter said:Hey Tristy,
The MCAT is just a two digit number. It's used to assess your ability to complete medical school education...if they have given you an interview, they consider that you have the academic credentials to complete a MD program....now they want to know whether you have the personal ability to become a true, compassionate physician.
Dartmouth is very liberal-minded oriented, so keep that in mind...
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cammy1313 said:Anyone recieved any news recently?
I got one rejection, one waitlist, and have an interview coming up on Monday at my top choice (UC Irvine)!![]()
Cammy