Hole punching question

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Can't seem to agree with the choice provided by Kaplan. I think C is a better choice. I rotated the folded paper clockwise so it appears on top of the page, and then unfolded and I get the holes on the left side (choice c).

How are they getting the holes on the right side for choice E? Mistake?
 

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howui3 said:
Can't seem to agree with the choice provided by Kaplan. I think C is a better choice. I rotated the folded paper clockwise so it appears on top of the page, and then unfolded and I get the holes on the left side (choice c).

How are they getting the holes on the right side for choice E? Mistake?

not a mistake, answer is, for sure, E. I am 700% sure. 😉
 
dat_student said:
not a mistake, answer is, for sure, E. I am 700% sure. 😉

I posted my question in hopes of explanation not affirmation.

Explaining how you arrived at choice E would be greatly appreciated.
 
howui3 said:
I posted my question in hopes of explanation not affirmation.

Explaining how you arrived at choice E would be greatly appreciated.

You can't rotate the folded paper. The following rough sketch should explain it all:



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When you went from figure 1 to figure 2 you rotated the whole paper counterclockwise (270 degrees) until the two holes showed up on the top right corner. Unfold and you get a line of holes on the right side.

But you can also rotate the WHOLE page clockwise (90 degrees) and the holes are now on the top left corner. Now unfold and the line is down the left side.

????
 
howui3 said:
When you went from figure 1 to figure 2 you rotated the whole paper counterclockwise (270 degrees) until the two holes showed up on the top right corner. Unfold and you get a line of holes on the right side.

But you can also rotate the WHOLE page clockwise (90 degrees) and the holes are now on the top left corner. Now unfold and the line is down the left side.

????

No, howui. rotation will make the paper go out of the square boundary -- a violation of rule and mess up with the orientation of fold (including those underneath).

If you're still confused, you may use a piece of square paper and try simulate the three figures given above.
 
THANKS!!!!! it jest registered, the top is folded over to make the second figure.

I have been getting by fine without realizing that there is no turning of the square or any of the foded figures.

Thanks for your help.
 
howui3 said:
THANKS!!!!! it jest registered, the top is folded over to make the second figure.

I have been getting by fine without realizing that there is no turning of the square or any of the foded figures.

Thanks for your help.


Is it legal to rotate the paper?
 
joonkimdds said:
Is it legal to rotate the paper?

It's illegal according to amendment 2 of chapter 7. Violators are punished by 1 negative point per incidence.
 
joonkimdds said:
Is it legal to rotate the paper?

No, that's the key to understanding this one. If you look from figure 1 to 2, you could either think of them rotating the half piece of paper 90 degrees CCW (which is what I thought when I first saw this, but you can't rotate it)

OR

do what mitshi pointed out, which is take the right side of the paper, and fold it over and down. Look at his sketches for a while; that helped me figure it out.
 
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