It's a bit too early to apply... like you I'm graduating July 2023. I applied for a few Hospitalist jobs and they straight up told me...not hiring/considering graduates of 2023 at this time. Was told to start searching early 2023...
Interesting… I did not know that, I will deff utilize that
Probably a bit too early to search but I suppose it can't hurt (especially if you want to get some of the more desirable positions which tend to fill early). But a few important (but not exhaustive list of factors) to consider:
Hey…what do you think (or anyone else) about this potential Hospitalist opportunity….
Yeahhhh 1st place…do not need visa. It seems like my license will be on the line every single shift for such low pay. I wanted to see what others think
That might be the worst hospitalist job I’ve ever heard of unless you somehow missed explaining something to us. Do you get 205k PLUS 110/hr?
Is this base salary then RVU productivity bonus? If so, what's the RVU goal? May not be so bad if it's a lowish goal and you can crank out encounters for the RVUs.
Hourly base rate 110/hr, it’s higher when you do swing shift/night shift or cover at different hospital (if there is a need)
No.
This sounds like a job looking for new grads who a) can’t do math or b) aren’t wise enough to run it by SDN/their mentors
That is a sh***tty job.
I don't think I will take that job...I considered it because its close to my family but the pay is just very low compared to other places! During the IV...they were telling me that the base pay is currently under review but didn't get an answer how long it will take before they make adjustments to it lol.
Yes, I manage patients in the ICU (non vented). I co-manage them with the intensivists if I feel like it. We can call them at any time and ask them to see these patients and they never give any push bach. Camaraderie b/t hospitalists and intensivists is great.
As others have said the deal sounds awful. Even in a highly desirable location that's easy to recruit, that's still pretty bad. If the job sponsors visas they may be able to get away with hiring IMGs with such an offer (since they know those who are on J1 visas don't have too many options).
I sent you a PM
Residents who graduated before me... That was how I got my gig.
If the RVU compensation amount is decent the job may not be as bad. Some jobs do have a low base pay but will give more per RVU to compensate. How much do you get per RVU and and what RVU threshold does it start (or do you get it for all your RVUs)? What's the typical census? If you are signing NP/PA notes their patients should count as part of your census (so you have enough time to supervise them), and it's only worthwhile if their patient encounters also count towards your RVUs as well. As mentioned above open ICU isn't easy for someone with no critical care fellowship, but it could lead to good pay if there's a good RVU pay structure (as Critical Care bills much higher than your typical follow-up level 2 or 3 progress notes).
That's a decent start, but the most desirable hospitalist jobs will likely be filled internally through connections. Be careful about going through jobs using an external recruiting agency. There's usually a reason they're spending a ton of money to hire external recruiters. Often it's because there's something about the job that's not desirable for most people and it's making the spot hard to fill. For example, remote location, nocturnist only, hospitals with poor subspecialty and ancillary support, or lower pay with high workload jobs. to name a few.
Bro this is the worst offer I have ever seen, I'm a Visa requiring IMG and I have got better offers than this.
Working extra shift is less than your regular shift per day! That does not make sense.
Haven't finalized it yet, will definitely ask them about it.
I won’t! Most of their Hospitalists that were hired in the past are straight out of residency…they pray on new graduates.
Still a bit below national average, especially if it's in a small city in the more remote parts of Washington that's presumably hard to recruit. Though may be reasonable depending on census so try to find out a bit more. Is there an RVU part of the pay? If not they should have a hard patient cap in your contract. Do you typically admit everyday or is there a separate admitting shift?
www.todayshospitalist.com
Still a bit below national average, especially if it's in a small city in the more remote parts of Washington that's presumably hard to recruit. Though may be reasonable depending on census so try to find out a bit more. Is there an RVU part of the pay? If not they should have a hard patient cap in your contract. Do you typically admit everyday or is there a separate admitting shift?
Rising compensation for hospitalists
Hospitalists are seeing a significant bump in compensation. But Is that healthy increase in pay due to some unhealthy work trends?
in full disclosure, I am a pharmacist - but I am friends with our hospitalist- the 7 on 7 off with no PDO would be a deal breaker- our docs still get PDO, but many don't use it - so they get essentially get to sell it back into a 457 account.
Still a bit below national average, especially if it's in a small city in the more remote parts of Washington that's presumably hard to recruit. Though may be reasonable depending on census so try to find out a bit more. Is there an RVU part of the pay? If not they should have a hard patient cap in your contract. Do you typically admit everyday or is there a separate admitting shift?
Rising compensation for hospitalists
Hospitalists are seeing a significant bump in compensation. But Is that healthy increase in pay due to some unhealthy work trends?
On 400k your actual take home after federal tax is like 290k then 36k on top is more like 12.5% of your take home.
like others said, gotta look at the whole package tax wise, if you don't pay high income tax, you might pay high property tax, or sales, or the state makes up for it by having ****ty schools and you have to factor in private school.
Ya, I mean federal tax can't be avoided for sure, so in a state like Wyoming, the takeaway would be 290k. But in a state like Oregon, the take-home would be around 255k.
A house that worth 600k in TX and it's not in a desirable neighborhood! What is going on with the housing market?
Run! Run away from it as fast as you can
Every 7/7 job I inquired about wasn’t round and go unfortunately. They round robin admissions so you pretty much stay the entire shift until the nocturnist arrives.
