Anyone have any comments on "University Housing" - (7900 Cambridge) and (1885 El Paseo) - apparently offered by UT Houston.
thoughts greatly appreciated 🙂
thoughts greatly appreciated 🙂
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applicant2002 said:Anyone have any comments on "University Housing" - (7900 Cambridge) and (1885 El Paseo) - apparently offered by UT Houston.
thoughts greatly appreciated 🙂
GoRedSox06 said:All in all, don't believe all you read about living outside of the medical center. Houston itself is a huge run-down city with many shady areas that is trying to improve its image. We lived right in the medical center during her first year and got tired of spending over $1000 monthly on rent to live in a brand new complex only to leave the gate and find ourselves in the middle of a crime-ridden city. Paying the same for a mortgage on a home is well worth the drive in....and more. If restaurant and bar selection is a deciding factor for housing, live in the med center. We had different priorities before and after living there for a year.
The last thing someone new to the city with limited personal time needs is to find themselves in a crappy apartment with the delusion that being in the center of social activities will make up for it. Other than a ghetto WalMart in Meyerland that is bad even for a WalMart, Super Target is the only major retail store anywhere near the med center and we shopped there when we lived in Houston and now in the nice new one we have down the road in Pearland. We just feel safer when we shop now.
lilycat said:By the way, say "hi" to T. 😉 I have a very, very good friend who will be a PGY3 in g. surg at UTSW and he loves the program -- really happy there.
I agree and disagree with parts of the above post. The problem with making recommendations of where to live in Houston is that it's a HUGE city, and we are all going to resort to some generalizations in order to describe different areas, complexes, etc. You (those preparing to move to Houston) have to make sure to take all of those recommendations with a huge grain of salt.
If you want to live in the suburbs, Pearland is a reasonable choice. A lot of residents live there because of family concerns. It is very "surburby" and if that is what you are looking for, then you will enjoy it. However, as it gets more and more popular each year (ie, as an alternative to the "congestion" of living in Katy or Sugarland), the traffic gets a little bit worse each year. From residents who live there, I have heard wildly different descriptions of commute times. I think if you leave prior to 6:45-7:00am, you will be okay. Evening commute times -- if you leave during peak hours, you may just have to "suck it up" and sit in a little bit of traffic.
What I object to in the above post is the description of Houston being this entirely crime-ridden ghettoized city, which just isn't true. Is the condoland/med center area more unsafe and lacking in "nice" shopping and restaurant options -- yes, definitely. However, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE MED CENTER/CONDOLAND!!! There are so many nice neighborhoods within a reasonable commuting distance to the hospital (20-25 minutes, max.) where you can live in safety, easy access to great restaurants, nice grocery stores, and aesthetically-pleasing surroundings. I urge people to check out the Galleria area for condos/apartments/townhomes, Southampton for beautiful, mature architecture duplexes, apartment complexes that border the southern edge of West University, and for more funky, urban surroundings, consider Upper Kirby, Montrose, Rice Military, and Midtown.
The great thing about Houston is that it is a huge area (including suburbs) that has enough different neighborhoods to satisfy an enormous variety of tastes and lifestyles. In this sense it is really no different than many other large cities, like Los Angeles, Atlanta, San Francisco, and for the above poster, Boston. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of many parts of Boston/Cambridge -- I've spent a ton of time in the Central Square/Harvard Square parts of Cambridge and I hate it -- I think its dirty, run-down, people are unfriendly, and I actually feel more unsafe walking around there than I ever have in Houston. However, I realize that Boston/Cambridge is a big enough area that I could find more pleasant areas (if I could get over the cold!).
Anyways, I think Houston is a fantastic city with a lot to offer. I have come to love it over the years and will be very sad to leave it. Good luck to all of you who are moving here this summer.
lilycat said:By the way, say "hi" to T. 😉 I have a very, very good friend who will be a PGY3 in g. surg at UTSW and he loves the program -- really happy there.
I guess you know my wife. Since I don't know who you are I'll just tell her someone on here says hello. I take it you aren't a fan of hers since you chose Boston to bash in exchange for my comments on Houston. Not sure what that was about or why it mattered in a string on Houston housing but it does reiterate my point in the last post that there's an ideal place for everybody. Hearing the good and bad will help to make a good choice in general but especially where to live. Its personal preference. Sorry you didn't like Boston and met unfriendly people there. I'm a native Texan and liked Boston alot.
Though we sure disagree on the quality of Houston we do agree that there are many factors for someone moving to Houston to consider and I'm glad this forum exists to share opinions. We came here kinda blind and learned in the first year living in Houston what we were missing and what we no longer wanted to put up with. My intention is not to bash Houston or the people that like living there but to share our experience living there. Just want to save someone else from doing the same thing----be it moving to a suburb or into the city and ultimately not being happy there.
Shadow Creek is nice. We live in West Oaks in Pearland which is really close to Shadow Creek. It was one of the first big developments in Pearland other that Silverlake. Like most of Pearland, it is close to Highway 288 so it's pretty central.Dr.One said:Has anyone heard of Greatwood which is supposably quite close to Sugar Land? We are thinking of buying a house out there, or perhaps in Shadow Creek in Pearland. Does anyone know anything about these places?
GoRedSox06 said:lilycat said:By the way, say "hi" to T. 😉 I have a very, very good friend who will be a PGY3 in g. surg at UTSW and he loves the program -- really happy there.
I guess you know my wife. Since I don't know who you are I'll just tell her someone on here says hello. I take it you aren't a fan of hers since you chose Boston to bash in exchange for my comments on Houston. Not sure what that was about or why it mattered in a string on Houston housing but it does reiterate my point in the last post that there's an ideal place for everybody. Hearing the good and bad will help to make a good choice in general but especially where to live. Its personal preference. Sorry you didn't like Boston and met unfriendly people there. I'm a native Texan and liked Boston alot.
Though we sure disagree on the quality of Houston we do agree that there are many factors for someone moving to Houston to consider and I'm glad this forum exists to share opinions. We came here kinda blind and learned in the first year living in Houston what we were missing and what we no longer wanted to put up with. My intention is not to bash Houston or the people that like living there but to share our experience living there. Just want to save someone else from doing the same thing----be it moving to a suburb or into the city and ultimately not being happy there.
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I think you misunderstood my post, either intentionally or accidentally, which is easy to do on anonymous messageboards. My having a negative opinion of Boston has nothing to do with your wife -- I don't like smoking, but that opinion doesn't equate to "bashing" all of my friends who do smoke. 😕
My example of Boston was just to use it as a point of comparison with Houston, in that large cities have a lot of the same problems, and that if you restrict yourself to a certain neighborhood, that will color your perceptions, fairly or unfairly. I could have just as easily used San Francisco or Atlanta -- I chose to use Boston since I know it's an area that you are familiar with, which can easily be surmised from your user name, not just my personal familiarity with your wife. My spending time in certain areas of Cambridge that are not necessarily the "nicest" or "swankiest" has undoubtedly unfairly colored my perception of Boston has a whole -- I feel that this can happen to people in any city, such as the examples you used of living in Condoland or Meyerland, and applying that to all of the metro Houston area in broad brush-strokes is misleading. It's just not that easy or simple, nor does it necessarily ring true.
I just felt that your previous post sort of unfairly bashed Houston. Don't get me wrong -- it's a hard city for many people to like. It's even harder if you restrict yourself to specific communities or neighborhoods that are known to have deficiencies in safety or community amenities, such as the med center/Condoland or Meyerland (both areas you referenced). I'm sorry that you guys had such a bad time in Condoland, but I just don't think its fair to use that experience as representative of living in Houston, as a whole, which is how I felt your post came across. Personally, I DON'T live in Condoland and never have; I make a point of advising most people I meet, prospective residents and med students alike, NOT to live there as well, all for the reasons you specified. By not restricting myself to the med center area, I think I've been able to take much greater advantage of some of the wonderful things Houston has to offer, things I've mentioned in previous posts, and things that I've neglected to mention, such as the general friendliness of residents in the city, affordable arts and entertainment, etc. As a result, I've had an incredibly positive experience in Houston, one that I'll be sorry to lose, because my standard of living will go down considerably when I move this summer.
Shadow Creek is nice. We live in West Oaks in Pearland which is really close to Shadow Creek. It was one of the first big developments in Pearland other that Silverlake. Like most of Pearland, it is close to Highway 288 so it's pretty central.
Dr.One said:What do you think about the Sugar Land area? I have drove through it and it seems nice, but I heard they are trying to make it like the Beverly Hills of Texas, and property prices should go through the roof. Also, how is crime out in Houston since Katrina? Pretty bad right?
Dr.One said:What do you think about the Sugar Land area? I have drove through it and it seems nice, but I heard they are trying to make it like the Beverly Hills of Texas, and property prices should go through the roof. Also, how is crime out in Houston since Katrina? Pretty bad right?
lilycat said:Not very new -- I wouldn't call them run-down, but they're older units. Kinda dark. Not very aesthetically pleasing. In Condoland which is nice for accessibility to the med center, but not for anything else, in my opinion -- kind of isolated area with sub-standard services (grocery store, Blockbuster, etc.) that you may not use on a regular basis. Not super safe.
applicant2002 said:thanks for your reply.
is university housing located in a safe area, or is it a high crime area (the actual property)?
applicant2002 said:Anyone have any comments on "University Housing" - (7900 Cambridge) and (1885 El Paseo) - apparently offered by UT Houston.
thoughts greatly appreciated 🙂
Of the time I have spent visiting people in "the suburbs", everything is exactly the same- neighborhoods full of brand-new cookie-cutter homes that all look the same; streets lined with chain restaurants and chain stores that are the same in any city in the country. You could be in Sugarland, Texas and how do you even distinguish that from a suburb in Dallas or anywhere else in the country? Super WalMart, Applebee's, Olive Garden, it's all the same. There is a lack of uniqueness and character.
mmb said:I have a family (including two dogs and a baby) and need a freestanding house with a yard. Anyone have any feedback on Meyerland? Thanks!
GoRedSox06 said:Be careful and look at the surrounding property values and crime statistics for that particular zip code rather than the city as a whole.
texas_ute said:I lived in university housing on 7900 cambridge for 4 years and there is nothing wrong with it at all. It's nothing pretty to look at from the outside, but all of the apartments are all recently remodeled on the inside.
EM Junkie said:It's pretty much in Condoland, so I would say that it is not the safest area, but it is not necessarily a high crime area either. If you do go with University Housing, I would choose the El Paseo property over the Cambridge property. The El Paseo units are BRAND NEW, while Cambridge was built in the 1970's I think.
As to the previous poster asking about Greatwood in Sugar Land; I would stick to Pearland if you're wanting to move to the suburbs. Sugar Land may be a bit too far of a commute.
Regarding property taxes, though, Pearland is much higher than Sugar Land (Pearland - 0.67 per $100 valuation, Sugar Land - 0.32 per $100 valuation) *Note: not including school and other district taxes.
Havarti666 said:Then I retract my statement. The last time I was there (which has been quite awhile) they were 1. nasty, and 2. about the same price as nicer places. Did not compute.
EM Junkie said:Don't forget to add in the time that you will spend getting from the parking lot to your classes or the hospitals. Sometimes that can be 15-20 minutes as many of the TMC institutions do not allow you to park in the garages - you have to park off site, up to a mile away and take the rail or bus into the Med Center.
zzz1 said:How safe is the TMC area after dark? from 6pm to 10pm for example? Can you walk around the TMC in the dark and be safe? For example, can people wait alone for the rail at the TMC to go to Rice U. at 7 or 8, 9pm?
zzz1 said:If you commute to the TMC everyday from Pearland, how do you handle the parking issue? These parking-off-site places, how much do they charge per day? How safe are they?
zzz1 said:How safe is the TMC area after dark? from 6pm to 10pm for example? Can you walk around the TMC in the dark and be safe? For example, can people wait alone for the rail at the TMC to go to Rice U. at 7 or 8, 9pm?
zzz1 said:pearland folks,
What's the employment options for Pearland? Can you find okay jobs in pearland or the surrounding suburban areas without driving into Houston? Are there any employment opportunities out there in the Pearland area, like Plano to Dallas kind of arrangement, where good jobs and good neighbourhood are both located in the suburbs?
I just drove through Pearland recently looking for housing, the shadow creek area is nice but other than that big strip mall area on 518, I didn't see any businesses or places for jobs. Do everyone who live in pearland commute into Houston for work?
When is the construction on 288 going to be done? The traffic on my day of visit was awful.
Thanks!
lilycat said:Other apartment complexes that are still very close to the med center, but not in the condoland area include Kirby Place, Archstone Brompton, Camden Vanderbilt, and the Maroneal. The only one that I hear occasionally "iffy" things about is Archstone Brompton. About half of the units there have been remodeled due to flooding during Tropical Storm Allison. I live at Camden, which generally has been pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of the front office staff, but the property is generally well-maintained, W/D in each unit, 3 pools, and workout facilities. Plus, it's right at the edge of West University, a really nice neighborhood where a lot of attendings live, and it's right next to a grocery store and a Barnes & Noble. I think that Kirby Place and the Maroneal are more or less equivalent to Camden in terms of the amenities offered and general state of the complex. Maroneal used to offer trash pick-up at the door as well.
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GoRedSox06 said:I live in Pearland and drive in to the Galleria area to work (IT). There isn't any major industry here in Pearland. Mainly a bedroom community. If you can give me an idea of what specific industry you're looking for that would help set you in a particular direction. PM if you want or just post here
As for safety, and I know others disagree, it is an issue with me. Look at the crime stats for the area where the med center is (77030) and judge for yourself. Its a huge city within a huge city, really, so its to be expected. We lived at the Gates at Hermann Park and my wife rode her bike in for awhile but there are vagrants a'plenty near the Bayou (they sleep there) in the morning. Some near misses but nothing every happened to her. Security to even walk my wife to her car was an ordeal in itself and her med school wasn't very interested in doing much to help. I go pick her up if she gets off duty late at night and has a hike to her car. Not sure if they offer better security escorting to residents.
Its not a war zone by any means but its the epicenter of lots of action, parks, the Zoo, and of course the rail runs right through. Homelessness is a problem in Harris County as a whole and the medical center has many of the services for mental health, free medical care, etc. Its to be expected that in the heart of all of this crimes will occur.
zzz1 said:How safe is the TMC area after dark? from 6pm to 10pm for example? Can you walk around the TMC in the dark and be safe? For example, can people wait alone for the rail at the TMC to go to Rice U. at 7 or 8, 9pm?
lilycat said:Safety in the med center could and should be better -- in a lot of ways, I think it's just an accident waiting to happen -- at some point, something bad will happen, but unfortunately that's what it will probably take to galvanize increased security presence around the Metro stops and the parking garages.
Everything EMJunkie said was spot on. There is a large homeless population that camps out just north of the MacGregor/Hermann Hospital station, due to the church that feeds them and also probably due to the close proximity of the main county hospital. Also, you often have "unsavory" characters getting treatment at one of the two Level One trauma centers next door to one another (Hermann and Ben Taub)-- where do these people go when they either get released or elude their police escorts (unfortunately common)???
That being said, I am not personally aware of any incidents involving a student or resident in the med center in the last few years. I think about 3 years ago there was a rape of a woman working late in a building on South Fannin (south of most of the hospitals), and I think 4 years ago a woman was raped while jogging around Rice in the wee hours of the morning and while it was still dark out (again, the common sense issue of living in a big city).
On a few occasions I've waited for the MetroRail between 9pm and 11pm and actually did not feel threatened or unsafe. Again, this goes back to common sense -- the Hermann metro rail stop tends to be more deserted at that hour than the Dryden Metro stop (this one attracts many employees from Texas Children's, Methodist, St. Luke's). Therefore, I only wait at the Dryden stop, and when walking to it, I stick to well-lighted, well-trafficked thoroughfares and don't take short-cuts between buildings, dark parking lots, etc. I've also walked out to the parking garage between 9pm and 2am on occasion -- if I can, I walk out with another student or resident. If I can't, I walk fast and purposeful. I've never had a scary encounter in the parking garage, but I'm naturally paranoid so these situations make me a little more nervous. But again, I've never had anything happen, or even close to it.
The only crime I've been personally aware of is that several friends who lived in Condoland or in other med center-area apartments (including Camden Vanderbilt and Archstone Brompton) have had their cars or apartments broken into at some point during the four years. However, I have a friend who lives in an apartment in Tanglewood (George Bush Sr.'s neighborhood) who was broken into last year. It's hard to find an area in a big city where you are totally immune from that kind of activity. All you can do is be as proactive as possible -- use your deadbolts (2 recommended), get or activate an alarm system, get renter's insurance if you don't buy. I also leave my TV on when I'm gone all day.
zzz1 said:Hey Lillycat,
Thanks, I am just wondering if you can tell what it is like to work in Ben Taub on rotations? What do you mean by -- Friends don't let friends go to Ben Taub. I know it's a joke but why?
punk said:Hi, I will be joining as resident in internal medicine at Baylor. All the above posts are very informative.
I am thinking of leasing some apartment at University Housing. Since I dont have a driver's licence, I was thinking of going to the center by the shuttle service.
Can baylor residents travel on the shuttle or is it only for students of UTH?
Any more information about the university housing will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
punk
punk said:Hi, I will be joining as resident in internal medicine at Baylor. All the above posts are very informative.
I am thinking of leasing some apartment at University Housing. Since I dont have a driver's licence, I was thinking of going to the center by the shuttle service.
Can baylor residents travel on the shuttle or is it only for students of UTH?
Any more information about the university housing will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
punk
EM Junkie said:I didn't even know Baylor students and residents could live there until I read your post. I did some checking and I now see that University Housing is available to UTHSC-H, M. D. Anderson, and BCM students, faculty and staff.
However, as far as I know, you CANNOT ride the UTH shuttle bus. There is a sign on the doors that state that you must show your UT ID before boarding. You CAN, however, ride the Houston Metro 87 bus.
Hope that helps!
punk said:Well, the appointment letter I received from Baylor states something like that they are happy to have me join as "staff" at their residency program. Staff probably includes the residents too, then.
Somebody told me that it is not the UTH shuttle, it is probably called the TMC shuttle. Since BCM is part of TMC, I might be eligible....this is something I want to know.
That link about 87 was very helpful..thanks
punk
punk said:Hi, I will be joining as resident in internal medicine at Baylor. All the above posts are very informative.
I am thinking of leasing some apartment at University Housing. Since I dont have a driver's licence, I was thinking of going to the center by the shuttle service.
Can baylor residents travel on the shuttle or is it only for students of UTH?
Any more information about the university housing will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
punk
sundevil1 said:I don't know how frequently Houston is threatened by tornadoes but it seems like maybe an annual thing, I really don't know.
sundevil1 said:Anyway, I was told the communities on the west side were safer in this regard. Any truth to this?.
sundevil1 said:I was doing a little reading and it seems that tornadoes are really only dangerous if you are out or live in a trailer. Sorry if this seems stupid, I've never lived in an area were tornadoes were even a threat. Just thought it may be something else to consider when looking for future homes.

sundevil1 said:I don't know how frequently Houston is threatened by tornadoes but it seems like maybe an annual thing, I really don't know. Anyway, I was told the communities on the west side were safer in this regard. Any truth to this? I was doing a little reading and it seems that tornadoes are really only dangerous if you are out or live in a trailer. Sorry if this seems stupid, I've never lived in an area were tornadoes were even a threat. Just thought it may be something else to consider when looking for future homes.
zzz1 said:EMJunkie and other native houstonians,
What about living in woodlands or sugarland areas? How are the commute from these two cities to the TMC?
What are the good and bad points of these 2 cities, as compared to, say Pearland?
Thanks,
zzz1
Ophtho said:Hi!
I'm new to this thread. I'm moving to Houston in June, and would appreciate ANY advice. Does anyone know of any newer, swanky places where several residents live and are happy?
I'm looking to rent a newer place (1bdrm), a little bit away from the med center (not condoland) but still within 15min driving distance (anywhere in rice village, montrose, museum district, upper kirby, or midtown is fine), and one that is close to restaurants/coffeeshops/nightlife. I'm a single female so safety is obviously an issue- a place with a parking garage is ideal. But then again, I don't know anyone in Houston, so want a place where other residents are. I prefer a midrise/highrise, but it seems that those not as common in Houston, and maybe not exactly popular among residents?
Specifically, has anyone heard anything about/know anyone who lives at Gables at Upper Kirby, Robinhood, 2727 Kirby, or Alta Lofts?
I've been on looking around the internet for a few months, and was down in Houston last week, but didn't see anything I really liked...so any advice is appreciated.
If you have any suggestions or know anything opening up, feel free to PM me!!!! Thanks!
zzz1 said:EMJunkie and other native houstonians,
What about living in woodlands or sugarland areas? How are the commute from these two cities to the TMC?
What are the good and bad points of these 2 cities, as compared to, say Pearland?
Thanks,
zzz1
EM Junkie said:Agree with Lilycat, although Sugar Land is a bit closer than The Woodlands. I-45 to and from The Woodlands would be a HORRIBLE commute daily, except for maybe coming from Katy down I-10!
US-59 to/from Sugar Land is just finishing a major widening project, so the traffic should be getting better soon. Taxes are lower here from what I have heard, but it is also a lot more crowded than Pearland. Sugar Land does have a lot more job opportunities for spouses as well.
Hope that helps!
zzz1 said:How safe is sugarland? Is it considered nicer or worse neighbourhood than pearland? Which is more expensive to buy in? which is more impacted by hurricanes?
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