How are general dentist doing so many procedures?

[alpha2716]

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I saw a practice that did general dentistry, some oral surgery (such as implants), and orthodontics. How are they doing this he goes by the name Gentle Dentistry and Orthodontics. This is like a monopoly! He does everything. He must be raking in $500,000+ a year in take home income. How is this guy legally doing this? And How does he know how to do all this stuff?

 

[alpha2716]

Here's the website for the practice: http://www.gentledentalmoore.com

 

[alpha2716]

Also one more question: Is this plan possible. Go to dental school and after do a 2 year orthodontics residency and then a 4 year oral surgery residency. Once I have finished my 6 years of post grad training start practice. Call it Oklahoma Dentistry Center. In this practice I can offer general dentistry, orthodontics, and oral surgery. Is this legal. It seems perfectly legal to me because I'm not advertising myself as a specialist.

 

[dyesht]

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[Firm]

They take a few weekend courses to learn a procedure then practice on patients. If they mess up, they return the patient's money and refer them to a specialist.

 

[osteotomy01]

OP, stop worrying about $$$s, hours, and call. First tackle a) choosing a field you can be happy with the rest of your career b) getting into med/dent school. Posting everywhere in resident boards from dent to uro to neurosx won't make the choice for you. Get off your butt and shadow some docs!

 

[Bman1047]

Also one more question: Is this plan possible. Go to dental school and after do a 2 year orthodontics residency and then a 4 year oral surgery residency. Once I have finished my 6 years of post grad training start practice. Call it Oklahoma Dentistry Center. In this practice I can offer general dentistry, orthodontics, and oral surgery. Is this legal. It seems perfectly legal to me because I'm not advertising myself as a specialist.

Seems like you answered your own question....which is a good start! As opposed to keep posting questions on here, perhaps take time to research your own answers(which you better get good at if you plan on attending any type of college), and not depend so much on us to answer questions that are pointless and unrelated for this forum.

 

[alpha2716]

Why can't people on this forum just answer the dang question

 

[alpha2716]

They take a few weekend courses to learn a procedure then practice on patients. If they mess up, they return the patient's money and refer them to a specialist.

Thank you for your answer!

 

[alpha2716]

Seems like you answered your own question....which is a good start! As opposed to keep posting questions on here, perhaps take time to research your own answers(which you better get good at if you plan on attending any type of college), and not depend so much on us to answer questions that are pointless and unrelated for this forum.

So what youre saying is that I can do this correct. If so would this be a smart idea. Would I be way overworked? Could I hire a general dentist and let him do all the good work and I do orthodontics and oral surgery? Also would I be able to get referrals. I can't imagine any other gp refering to me because I'm the competition. But couldn't I just refer my gp patients to myself and that would be enough business.

 

[Bman1047]

Why can't people on this forum just answer the dang question

Because we don't have to answer to little rude high school students that repeatedly post irrelevant and ignorant questions in a forum that is for 'Dental Residents and Practicing Dentist'

Show a little more respect and tact when you are attempting to converse with the very people that have attained the education you are striving for.

 

[alpha2716]

[QUwas ="Bman1047, post: 16063385, member: 186349"]Because we don't have to answer to little rude high school students that repeatedly post irrelevant and ignorant questions in a forum that is for 'Dental Residents and Practicing Dentist'

Show a little more respect and tact when you are attempting to converse with the very people that have attained the education you are striving for.[/QUOTE]

I was not reffering to you.

 

[alpha2716]

@Bman1047

 

[alpha2716]

And why would I post in a different forum if I want to talk to practicing physicians and dentist

 

[alpha2716]

And there is nothing wrong with being ignorant of dentistry if your in freaking high school. Ignorant means you don't know. How would I know the questions I ask. You can't expect a high schooler to know stuff a 10 year practicing dentist. Gosh you guys are so smart you're stupid. You can't get mad for someone not knowing something. And just answer my question please I couldn't care less about your opinion on anything else other than what I asked. And if you don't want to answer my questions just don't say anything!

 

[alpha2716]

@Bman1047 Youre answer was very helpful and you were also (at first)

 

[avangusva]

And just answer my question please I couldn't care less about your opinion on anything else other than what I asked.

🙂

 

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[ramseszerg]

In order to be a dentist you need to have a certain amount of maturity. I think that will be the biggest barrier to you in reaching your goals.

To answer your questions:

Not all implant cases are the same. Some are very straight-forward with good anatomy and everything ideal. Others can be very complicated. Some dental students place implants in dental school, and all will need a significant amount of continuing education possibly including GPR/AEGD to place implants and even then, they should select their cases carefully and refer many cases to a surgeon. It's the same thing with orthodontics. Some cases are straight-forward, others are not. A well-trained GP should be able to do orthodontics in his/her office.

No one will do a residency in orthodontics and oral surgery and then practice as a GP. It makes no economic sense because of the cost of the training, and you will not get any referrals from other GP's. You will not have enough ortho and surgical cases from your general practice pool to justify your training and even if you did, you only have 24 hours in a day to do general dentistry, ortho, and surgery. If you really want to practice with the broadest scope possible a 2-year AEGD or GPR would be a good idea.

Dentistry is a great field. Generally you will not make 500,000 a year no matter what type of specialized procedures you're doing but you won't worry about money and you can make it into the upper middle class. It can also be extremely fulfilling if you're doing quality work.

 

[alpha2716]

In order to be a dentist you need to have a certain amount of maturity. I think that will be the biggest barrier to you in reaching your goals.

To answer your questions:

Not all implant cases are the same. Some are very straight-forward with good anatomy and everything ideal. Others can be very complicated. Some dental students place implants in dental school, and all will need a significant amount of continuing education possibly including GPR/AEGD to place implants and even then, they should select their cases carefully and refer many cases to a surgeon. It's the same thing with orthodontics. Some cases are straight-forward, others are not. A well-trained GP should be able to do orthodontics in his/her office.

No one will do a residency in orthodontics and oral surgery and then practice as a GP. It makes no economic sense because of the cost of the training, and you will not get any referrals from other GP's. You will not have enough ortho and surgical cases from your general practice pool to justify your training and even if you did, you only have 24 hours in a day to do general dentistry, ortho, and surgery. If you really want to practice with the broadest scope possible a 2-year AEGD or GPR would be a good idea.

Dentistry is a great field. Generally you will not make 500,000 a year no matter what type of specialized procedures you're doing but you won't worry about money and you can make it into the upper middle class. It can also be extremely fulfilling if you're doing quality work.

Thanks for the answer.

 

[alpha2716]

In order to be a dentist you need to have a certain amount of maturity. I think that will be the biggest barrier to you in reaching your goals.

To answer your questions:

Not all implant cases are the same. Some are very straight-forward with good anatomy and everything ideal. Others can be very complicated. Some dental students place implants in dental school, and all will need a significant amount of continuing education possibly including GPR/AEGD to place implants and even then, they should select their cases carefully and refer many cases to a surgeon. It's the same thing with orthodontics. Some cases are straight-forward, others are not. A well-trained GP should be able to do orthodontics in his/her office.

No one will do a residency in orthodontics and oral surgery and then practice as a GP. It makes no economic sense because of the cost of the training, and you will not get any referrals from other GP's. You will not have enough ortho and surgical cases from your general practice pool to justify your training and even if you did, you only have 24 hours in a day to do general dentistry, ortho, and surgery. If you really want to practice with the broadest scope possible a 2-year AEGD or GPR would be a good idea.

Dentistry is a great field. Generally you will not make 500,000 a year no matter what type of specialized procedures you're doing but you won't worry about money and you can make it into the upper middle class. It can also be extremely fulfilling if you're doing quality work.

So which do you think would make the most money: a general dentist with aegd that does some orthodontics and implants and wisdom teeth, a orthodontist, or a oral surgeon.

 

[Bereno]

So which do you think would make the most money: a general dentist with aegd that does some orthodontics and implants and wisdom teeth, a orthodontist, or a oral surgeon.

Lol, why did I suspect this question was next? The one that makes the most is the one that is the best business person. That said, if we were to use averages, it would be OS>Ortho>GD, but could take any order.

 

[Winged Scapula]

And why would I post in a different forum if I want to talk to practicing physicians and dentist

Because that is SDN policy. Your thread will be moved to hSDN; others can continue to respond there if they like.

 

[da8s0859q]

Why can't people on this forum just answer the dang question

Gosh you guys are so smart you're stupid ... I couldn't care less about your opinion on anything else other than what I asked. And if you don't want to answer my questions just don't say anything!

@Bman1047 Youre answer was very helpful and you were also (at first)

Well, this was fun.

 

[chickennuggets]

In order to be a dentist you need to have a certain amount of maturity. I think that will be the biggest barrier to you in reaching your goals.

To answer your questions:

Not all implant cases are the same. Some are very straight-forward with good anatomy and everything ideal. Others can be very complicated. Some dental students place implants in dental school, and all will need a significant amount of continuing education possibly including GPR/AEGD to place implants and even then, they should select their cases carefully and refer many cases to a surgeon. It's the same thing with orthodontics. Some cases are straight-forward, others are not. A well-trained GP should be able to do orthodontics in his/her office.

No one will do a residency in orthodontics and oral surgery and then practice as a GP. It makes no economic sense because of the cost of the training, and you will not get any referrals from other GP's. You will not have enough ortho and surgical cases from your general practice pool to justify your training and even if you did, you only have 24 hours in a day to do general dentistry, ortho, and surgery. If you really want to practice with the broadest scope possible a 2-year AEGD or GPR would be a good idea.

Dentistry is a great field. Generally you will not make 500,000 a year no matter what type of specialized procedures you're doing but you won't worry about money and you can make it into the upper middle class. It can also be extremely fulfilling if you're doing quality work.

So getting the aegd is just a way of making a little extra money off non severe ortho and some simple oral surgery in addition to your gp income. And the patients that you have that need these additional procedures you can just do them

 

[ramseszerg]

So getting the aegd is just a way of making a little extra money off non severe ortho and some simple oral surgery in addition to your gp income. And the patients that you have that need these additional procedures you can just do them

No. It's alot more complicated than that. An AEGD gives you additional exposure to a variety of cases that will give you confidence in entering independent private practice. It's not about money. You can make lots of money doing mostly fillings. There are many considerations in deciding your scope of practice such as your demographic, skillset, armamentarium, and many others that should not concern high school students. Focus on doing well in school and figuring out which career is the best fit for you. Do some soul searching.

 

[chickennuggets]

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No. It's alot more complicated thaconfidant s AEGD gives you additional exposure to a variety of cases that will give you confidence in entering independent private practice. It's not about money. You can make lots of money doing mostly fillings. There are many considerations in deciding your scope of practice such as your demographic, skillset, armamentarium, and many others that should not concern high school students. Focus on doing well in school and figuring out which career is the best fit for you. Do some soul searching.

Thanks good advice! But still the purpose of getting the additional exposure for more confidence and or comfort is so you can practice more stuff along with gp that doesn't need to be reffered legally. If I'm wrong what is the economic purpose for getting aegd. P.s what is soul searching?