How 'Average' Is The Real Average Pre-Med...

[Detective SnowBucket]

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I've heard over the years and got the feeling myself that SDN is a lil overachieving so I've been trying to find out more about real average pre-meds because I look around in my pre-med classes and Im like "there's no way the average basic white boy or sorority sister in here has 100 clinical and non-clinical hours, >3.5 s/cGPA, ~509 MCAT, some research on the side and is a well rounded person with actual interests"

Maybe my above stereotype of the average applicant is just the average matriculant. But my question/point is, are we pushing ourselves or is this really an accurate representation of all that's out there?

 

[FroYoOreo]

To be honest, those around me who are on SDN are definitely overachievers.
Besides, average applicant have MCAT score of 504.7, and GPA 3.56.
https://www.aamc.org/download/321494/data/factstablea16.pdf

 

[Goro]

The median acceptee to MD schools has a 3.76 GPA and an MCAT of 511
Source? MSAR

The median MCAT score is 500.

 

[FroYoOreo]

The median acceptee to MD schools has a 3.76 GPA and an MCAT of 511
Source? MSAR

The median MCAT score is 500.

My bad, meant to type applicant, not matriculant.

 

[FlavivirusProtease]

The real average pre-med =/= the real average medical school matriculant.

The average premed < The average applicant < The average matriculant < SDN's expectations of a premed.

That said, @FroYoOreo has given you the average applicant and @Goro has given you the average matriculant. The average premed is probably somewhere just under the average applicant's statistics (There are some premeds whose GPAs are too low so they give up and other who apply DO and have lower GPAs than MD applicants).

 

[Select All That Apply]

@Detective SnowBucket The average undergraduate student takes six years to graduate with a four-year degree. Congratulations. You are special.

 

[Lucca]

https://www.aamc.org/download/321508/data/factstablea23.pdf

heres info on stats

 

[thegrind33]

I hear people talking in my classes saying "I think I might have a chance at some med schools, I made a 503 on the mcat and have a 3.4 GPA.", and I hear this 100X more than "I have a 4.0 and made a 515 on the mcat". The average self claimed "pre-med student" probably has a low gpa and mcat. Keep in mind that med schools accept around 5% (give or take) of the applicants, so its the cream of the crop that get in. Also people on this forum IMO are more likely to seek out advice and are more intrinsically motivated to better their application.

 

[thegrind33]

The median acceptee to MD schools has a 3.76 GPA and an MCAT of 511
Source? MSAR

The median MCAT score is 500.

What do you think the median mcat score will be in 3-4 years from now?

 

[FroYoOreo]

What do you think the median mcat score will be in 3-4 years from now?

I noticed the upward trend for median mcat too. 508.7 in 2016-2017, 510.4 in 2017-2018. Couldn't run a t-test, but the difference looks pretty significant.

 

[FlavivirusProtease]

I noticed the upward trend for median mcat too. 508.7 in 2016-2017, 510.4 in 2017-2018. Couldn't run a t-test, but the difference looks pretty significant.

I did.

Statistics used:

2017: Average=508.7, SD=6.9, N=21,030
2018: Average=510.4, SD=6.6, N=21,338
p < .0001

All the statistics came off the AAMC website

Edit: Decided I'd run it with applicants as well to see if the applicant stats had also shifted upwards.

2017: Average=501.8, SD=9.5, N=53,042
2018: Average=504.7, SD=9.4, N=51,680
p<.0001

 

[DubbiDoctor]

I did.

Statistics used:

2017: Average=508.7, SD=6.9, N=21,030
2018: Average=510.4, SD=6.6, N=21,338
p < .0001

All the statistics came off the AAMC website

Edit: Decided I'd run it with applicants as well to see if the applicant stats had also shifted upwards.

2017: Average=501.8, SD=9.5, N=53,042
2018: Average=504.7, SD=9.4, N=51,680
p<.0001

Last year's cycle also had fewer applicants - wonder if that trend continues.

 

[FroYoOreo]

I did.

Statistics used:

2017: Average=508.7, SD=6.9, N=21,030
2018: Average=510.4, SD=6.6, N=21,338
p < .0001

All the statistics came off the AAMC website

Edit: Decided I'd run it with applicants as well to see if the applicant stats had also shifted upwards.

2017: Average=501.8, SD=9.5, N=53,042
2018: Average=504.7, SD=9.4, N=51,680
p<.0001

Wonder if that's the reason AAMC made MCAT harder this year. I just took it last weekend and felt it is definitely harder/complex than when I took it 3 years ago.