Hello everyone.
Last time you saw me I had renounced my plans to become a psychologist because I had decided it would take too long. Well, I have new information that has made me reconsider.
First, their PhD programs are three years, though I assume since it's 3-year you need a master's first. So, this goes back to my original plan I had mentioned about wanting to get a master's first and then fast track a PhD. Well, turns out I actually could do it! Even their PhD's they get straight form B.S. are only 3-years, though I'm sure you have to have done lots of research already, hence, I would get a Master's and spend all the time on my master's in research settings. Then, boom, research psychologist.
Or, an even BETTER deal....
I found out that if you want a Clin.Psy.D in the UK, that is also only three years, and you get paid to train there! £25,000/year! That's over $40,000/year! And, it also has research components, possibly more than the U.S. PsyD (which as far as research goes is just about reading it, not conducing it). BUT-- those PsyD programs have about half the acceptance rate of U.S. ones. From wiki: "In the UK, clinical psychologists undertake a Doctor of Clinical Psychology (D.Clin.Psych.), which is a practitioner doctorate with both clinical and research components. This is a three-year full-time salaried program sponsored by the National Health Service (NHS) and based in universities and the NHS. Entry into these programs is highly competitive, and requires at least a three-year undergraduate degree in psychology plus some form of experience, usually in either the NHS as an Assistant Psychologist or in academia as a Research Assistant. It is not unusual for applicants to apply several times before being accepted onto a training course as only about one-fifth of applicants are accepted each year."
Now, as I understand it, acceptance into U.S. PsyD programs is about 40%, but the average debt you are looking at is $120k for 2011 graduates and increasing yearly. So you'd be a nut to get a U.S. PsyD anyway. Plus, they take 5 years, and so any extra experience that the UK one takes to get into, as long as it's not >2 years more than the amount of experience needed to get into a U.S. PsyD program, it still doesn't take as long-- and more importantly doesn't COST $$!
So, here is my other idea:
1.Spend a couple years as an R.A. and maybe even getting some type of relevant work experience (there must be SOME more relevant job for me than server, I have a psych bachelor's!!) and taking whatever UK tests there are
2. Go to Uni in UK for three years, get paid while doing training, come back to U.S. with PsyD, take licencing exam
3. ???
4. Profit!
Have I found THE loophole?!?!?!
Last time you saw me I had renounced my plans to become a psychologist because I had decided it would take too long. Well, I have new information that has made me reconsider.
First, their PhD programs are three years, though I assume since it's 3-year you need a master's first. So, this goes back to my original plan I had mentioned about wanting to get a master's first and then fast track a PhD. Well, turns out I actually could do it! Even their PhD's they get straight form B.S. are only 3-years, though I'm sure you have to have done lots of research already, hence, I would get a Master's and spend all the time on my master's in research settings. Then, boom, research psychologist.
Or, an even BETTER deal....
I found out that if you want a Clin.Psy.D in the UK, that is also only three years, and you get paid to train there! £25,000/year! That's over $40,000/year! And, it also has research components, possibly more than the U.S. PsyD (which as far as research goes is just about reading it, not conducing it). BUT-- those PsyD programs have about half the acceptance rate of U.S. ones. From wiki: "In the UK, clinical psychologists undertake a Doctor of Clinical Psychology (D.Clin.Psych.), which is a practitioner doctorate with both clinical and research components. This is a three-year full-time salaried program sponsored by the National Health Service (NHS) and based in universities and the NHS. Entry into these programs is highly competitive, and requires at least a three-year undergraduate degree in psychology plus some form of experience, usually in either the NHS as an Assistant Psychologist or in academia as a Research Assistant. It is not unusual for applicants to apply several times before being accepted onto a training course as only about one-fifth of applicants are accepted each year."
Now, as I understand it, acceptance into U.S. PsyD programs is about 40%, but the average debt you are looking at is $120k for 2011 graduates and increasing yearly. So you'd be a nut to get a U.S. PsyD anyway. Plus, they take 5 years, and so any extra experience that the UK one takes to get into, as long as it's not >2 years more than the amount of experience needed to get into a U.S. PsyD program, it still doesn't take as long-- and more importantly doesn't COST $$!
So, here is my other idea:
1.Spend a couple years as an R.A. and maybe even getting some type of relevant work experience (there must be SOME more relevant job for me than server, I have a psych bachelor's!!) and taking whatever UK tests there are
2. Go to Uni in UK for three years, get paid while doing training, come back to U.S. with PsyD, take licencing exam
3. ???
4. Profit!
Have I found THE loophole?!?!?!
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