How closely do ADCOMS look at transcripts?

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I am a senior this year. I am currently a double major - Biological Sciences and Psychology.

I can graduate a whole semester sooner by dropping the Biology major (7 classes remaining) and graduating with only the Psych major (2 classes remaining). That is quite advantageous for me financially and with my family. Had COVID never happened, I would have kept both majors, but things have certainly changed.

I know SDN wisdom is that major doesn't matter, but my hangup is the fact that I am a reinventor. I really struggled with a poorly controlled chronic illness my freshman and sophomore years and that had a negative effect on my grades. I have done really well my junior and senior years, taking 3-4 science classes per semester. However, I was a Chemistry major those freshman and sophomore years and so a lot of my poor grades were in BCPM classes like Chemistry or Calculus and my BCPM GPA is still lower than my cumulative.

I don't want the ADCOM to just quickly glance at my file and say, "A Psych major with a 3.4 sGPA and 3.6 cGPA = They can't handle science classes" without looking through the transcripts and seeing a lot of A's in 300- and 400-level Biology classes in my junior and senior reinvention years. I took 3 or 4 upper-level Bio classes every semester those junior and senior years and have gotten almost all A's.

If it matters, I am primarily applying DO.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I am not making a mistake.
 

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I am a senior this year. I am currently a double major - Biological Sciences and Psychology.

I can graduate a whole semester sooner by dropping the Biology major (7 classes remaining) and graduating with only the Psych major (2 classes remaining). That is quite advantageous for me financially and with my family. Had COVID never happened, I would have kept both majors, but things have certainly changed.

I know SDN wisdom is that major doesn't matter, but my hangup is the fact that I am a reinventor. I really struggled with a poorly controlled chronic illness my freshman and sophomore years and that had a negative effect on my grades. I have done really well my junior and senior years, taking 3-4 science classes per semester. However, I was a Chemistry major those freshman and sophomore years and so a lot of my poor grades were in BCPM classes like Chemistry or Calculus and my BCPM GPA is still lower than my cumulative.

I don't want the ADCOM to just quickly glance at my file and say, "A Psych major with a 3.4 sGPA and 3.6 cGPA = They can't handle science classes" without looking through the transcripts and seeing a lot of A's in 300- and 400-level Biology classes in my junior and senior reinvention years. I took 3 or 4 upper-level Bio classes every semester those junior and senior years and have gotten almost all A's.

If it matters, I am primarily applying DO.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I am not making a mistake.
You're not making a mistake. Adcoms look at transcripts very closely. Along with MCATs, they are the single most important metric in an application, even in a world of holistic reviews. That said, 3.6/3.4 is very acceptable for DO, so you just don't need the extra 21 credits, unless you want to be competitive for MD. Good luck!!!
 
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The exam classes could help boost your AMCAS GPA. A 3.6 cGPA and 3.4 sGPA are both below average for allopathic medical school matriculants.
 
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With Step 1 going pass/fail, I would try to get into an allopathic program. Your transcript is not beyond repair for MD purposes. You would be competitive as a DO candidate as is.
 
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I am a senior this year. I am currently a double major - Biological Sciences and Psychology.

I can graduate a whole semester sooner by dropping the Biology major (7 classes remaining) and graduating with only the Psych major (2 classes remaining). That is quite advantageous for me financially and with my family. Had COVID never happened, I would have kept both majors, but things have certainly changed.

I know SDN wisdom is that major doesn't matter, but my hangup is the fact that I am a reinventor. I really struggled with a poorly controlled chronic illness my freshman and sophomore years and that had a negative effect on my grades. I have done really well my junior and senior years, taking 3-4 science classes per semester. However, I was a Chemistry major those freshman and sophomore years and so a lot of my poor grades were in BCPM classes like Chemistry or Calculus and my BCPM GPA is still lower than my cumulative.

I don't want the ADCOM to just quickly glance at my file and say, "A Psych major with a 3.4 sGPA and 3.6 cGPA = They can't handle science classes" without looking through the transcripts and seeing a lot of A's in 300- and 400-level Biology classes in my junior and senior reinvention years. I took 3 or 4 upper-level Bio classes every semester those junior and senior years and have gotten almost all A's.

If it matters, I am primarily applying DO.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I am not making a mistake.
Adcoms at schools that reward reinvention do not think that way. In fact a number of schools will give more weight to your last two years then your entire GPA.
 
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I actually got into my top choice MD school with your EXACT stats- a 3.6 cGPA and 3.4 sGPA so don't give up hope by any means!! (non-URM, CA resident, non-science major 516 mcat)
In my case, I really do feel that the admissions committee likely saw that I had a strong upward trend and that most of my B-s were from my freshman year. I don't know if you have taken the MCAT yet, but if you have not, take the time off and really go all-in when studying for the mcat. I feel like a really good mcat score and an upward trend will really overshadow the fact that the science gpa is on the lower end of accepted applicants.

Consider the time and money that you saved from dropping the bio major as an investment in mcat study prep materials, I think that the mcat can be a great opportunity for students such as me and you that started out college with a rocky start, but eventually found a very strong footing.

Best of luck!!!
 
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With Step 1 going pass/fail, I would try to get into an allopathic program. Your transcript is not beyond repair for MD purposes. You would be competitive as a DO candidate as is.

I certainly agree with you and originally, this was my plan. It's a money thing that is making me need to graduate sooner and apply DO only as a result.

Thank you very much for listening and offering your replies. :) I genuinely appreciate it. :)
 
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I certainly agree with you and originally, this was my plan. It's a money thing that is making me need to graduate sooner and apply DO only as a result.

Thank you very much for listening and offering your replies. :) I genuinely appreciate it. :)

I understand and that is a personal decision. In formulating your decision, also consider the potential pay disparities in DO v. MD.
 

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Adcoms at schools that reward reinvention do not think that way. In fact a number of schools will give more weight to your last two years then your entire GPA.
The AAMC medical school admissions surveys have noted that both grade trends as well as postbacc grades are grouped with factors of highest importance for both interview invites and acceptance
https://www.aamc.org/system/files/2...tudent-selection-guide_07082020_0.pdf#page=20

Additionally, a few schools have a formal process for the applicant to request that post bacc or graduate GPA be considered in lieu of UG GPA (I believe Wayne State and LSU have this. Others have either formal policy or state on their webpages that the last 30-60 credits completed, be it UG, Postbacc or grad will be considered representative of the applicants work.
 
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I am a senior this year. I am currently a double major - Biological Sciences and Psychology.

I can graduate a whole semester sooner by dropping the Biology major (7 classes remaining) and graduating with only the Psych major (2 classes remaining). That is quite advantageous for me financially and with my family. Had COVID never happened, I would have kept both majors, but things have certainly changed.

I know SDN wisdom is that major doesn't matter, but my hangup is the fact that I am a reinventor. I really struggled with a poorly controlled chronic illness my freshman and sophomore years and that had a negative effect on my grades. I have done really well my junior and senior years, taking 3-4 science classes per semester. However, I was a Chemistry major those freshman and sophomore years and so a lot of my poor grades were in BCPM classes like Chemistry or Calculus and my BCPM GPA is still lower than my cumulative.

I don't want the ADCOM to just quickly glance at my file and say, "A Psych major with a 3.4 sGPA and 3.6 cGPA = They can't handle science classes" without looking through the transcripts and seeing a lot of A's in 300- and 400-level Biology classes in my junior and senior reinvention years. I took 3 or 4 upper-level Bio classes every semester those junior and senior years and have gotten almost all A's.

If it matters, I am primarily applying DO.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I am not making a mistake.
Adcoms go over your transcript with a fine tooth comb. Mark my words.
Don't lie.
 
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Adcoms go over your transcript with a fine tooth comb. Mark my words.
Don't lie.

I think you misunderstood my post. I was by no stretch of the imagination planning to lie. I wanted to make sure they saw my science class reinvention instead of only looking at the overall number.
 
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