How come a someone who got 5+ interviews and did not get into a single one?

[dentist32721]

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hey guys..
Yesterday at the interview, i met a person who got 6interviews last year (he applied early) and did not get into a single one.
He has a decent score (21AA 3.7-8 gpa lots of leaderships, shadowing, etc)
How can this happen??
Is it usual?

 

[PocketRocket]

He might have come across a certain way during the interview that they didn't like. Is there something off about him? lol idk I think its impossible to pin point to the exact reason why it didn't work out for him

 

[hellofuturedentists]

Sounds unusual. Probably depends on how well he interviewed and if, personality-wise, he seemed like a good fit for the school.

 

[Ali786512]

Lets remain positive guys! 🙂

 

[Weakfart]

I talked to guy who's roommate applied to pharm schools. Perfect scores, 4.0, 99th percentile. He got rejected from his alma mater saying he was in it for the money. Some people are just bad at talking I guess.

 

[darknightzzz]

hey guys..
Yesterday at the interview, i met a person who got 6interviews last year (he applied early) and did not get into a single one.
He has a decent score (21AA 3.7-8 gpa lots of leaderships, shadowing, etc)
How can this happen??
Is it usual?

are all of these public OOS ??? where they take only 10-20% class OOS and the competition is fierce

god damnnn time to reflect.

 

[Kittenz]

The answer is in the question. He had 6 interviews, but he didn't receive any acceptances. His interviews went poorly. Therefore, he did not receive any acceptances.

 

[darknightzzz]

The answer is in the question. He had 6 interviews, but he didn't receive any acceptances. His interviews went poorly. Therefore, he did not receive any acceptances.

may be he is tooooo underprepared and say offensive things?
i think what that stats, as long as he has decent interviews, he will still get in at least one, what u think? pika

 

[Ollivander]

He could be off.
He could be a bad interviewee.
He could have an ego.
He could be bad at English.
He could have appeared unprepared and lazy.

The list goes on...

All we need to take from this is be prepared to the best of your ability for the interviews you receive.

 

[Rainy day tales.]

He could be off.
He could be a bad interviewee.
He could have an ego.
He could be bad at English.
He could have appeared unprepared and lazy.

The list goes on...

All we need to take from this is be prepared to the best of your ability for the interviews you receive.

he could be bad at English.............
This scared me...

 

[Rambunctious]

You guys act like its uncommon, but there have been many people with multiple interviews that didn't make it. Also, it's not always because their interview skills are poor. You can get denied for multiple reasons that you will never find out about.

 

[azxken]

He is not "normal" maybe? as in mentally..

 

[RuffDay]

he could be bad at English.............
This scared me...

You will be okay. As long as you can splash some sort of personality lol

 

[tropicarrie]

You guys act like its uncommon, but there have been many people with multiple interviews that didn't make it. Also, it's not always because their interview skills are poor. You can get denied for multiple reasons that you will never find out about.

This scares me lol...

 

[strep mutans]

Poor sucker probably described dental caries as cavities. Rookie mistake. Or he described calculus as tartar! Smh. 😉

But really, who knows.
Maybe it's what he wore to his interviews? I have been genuinely surprised and puzzled by some other applicants' attire at all of my interviews. I don't understand why those applicants thought what they were wearing was appropriate for a dental school interview... And presumably they wear the same outfit to every interview, right? Usually it's the girls, but maybe the guy didn't get the memo to wear a well-tailored conservative suit and look clean.

No use in worrying, just do your best.

 

[catoshiro]

Maybe it's what he wore to his interviews? I have been genuinely surprised and puzzled by some other applicants' attire at all of my interviews. I don't understand why those applicants thought what they were wearing was appropriate for a dental school interview... And presumably they wear the same outfit to every interview, right? Usually it's the girls, but maybe the guy didn't get the memo to wear a well-tailored conservative suit and look clean.

No use in worrying, just do your best.

Hmm could you give examples? Wonder how they would factor that in.

 

[pgex2t]

Hmm could you give examples? Wonder how they would factor that in.

Patterned shirts. Get out of here you heathens. (I'm half kidding)

 

[strep mutans]

Hmm could you give examples? Wonder how they would factor that in.

Girls: Pants so tight they look painted on. Girls not wearing suits -- wearing outfits that look more like they are hostesses or going out for "drinks with the girls" after work. Forever21-looking stuff. Unprofessional heels... unless it's the oldest profession if-ya-know-what-I-mean. 😉 Girls with crazy colored shoes or purses (I guess these are "statement pieces"?). Girls wearing their hair down and it looks frizzy/broken, not professional.

Guys: I haven't seen too many issues. Some guys with questionably long beards. Suits that don't fit very well, but nothing ridiculous.

 

[Pro-Dentite19]

hey guys..
Yesterday at the interview, i met a person who got 6interviews last year (he applied early) and did not get into a single one.
He has a decent score (21AA 3.7-8 gpa lots of leaderships, shadowing, etc)
How can this happen??
Is it usual?

It is hard to say but it is most likely one of two reasons....either he is unprepared he has a personality that won't work for the faculty and patients.

 

[bsal1]

Girls: Pants so tight they look painted on. Girls not wearing suits -- wearing outfits that look more like they are hostesses or going out for "drinks with the girls" after work. Forever21-looking stuff. Unprofessional heels... unless it's the oldest profession if-ya-know-what-I-mean. 😉 Girls with crazy colored shoes or purses (I guess these are "statement pieces"?). Girls wearing their hair down and it looks frizzy/broken, not professional.

Guys: I haven't seen too many issues. Some guys with questionably long beards. Suits that don't fit very well, but nothing ridiculous.

At my most recent interview a guy came without a tie. That's game over right there.

 

[Confused1617]

Poor sucker probably described dental caries as cavities. Rookie mistake. Or he described calculus as tartar! Smh. 😉

But really, who knows.
Maybe it's what he wore to his interviews? I have been genuinely surprised and puzzled by some other applicants' attire at all of my interviews. I don't understand why those applicants thought what they were wearing was appropriate for a dental school interview... And presumably they wear the same outfit to every interview, right? Usually it's the girls, but maybe the guy didn't get the memo to wear a well-tailored conservative suit and look clean.

No use in worrying, just do your best.

Is it inappropriate to say cavities?

 

[Rambunctious]

At my most recent interview a guy came without a tie. That's game over right there.

That's not bad. If someone came in jeans, that would be game over.

 

[OhHamburgers]

That's not bad. If someone came in jeans, that would be game over.

Are you sure about that? I personally think missing a tie or too casual outfit shouldn't play too much role evaluating someone's capability as a dentist, but I had a friend who got kicked out of the interview for wearing a very wrinkled tie. The world doesn't always run by common sense. We have no idea who we will be facing on the interview day, so if you do not want to slip on the interview I recommend that you do your best properly dressing up for the interview.

 

[cpain]

Are you sure about that? I personally think missing a tie or too casual outfit shouldn't play too much role evaluating someone's capability as a dentist, but I had a friend who got kicked out of the interview for wearing a very wrinkled tie. The world doesn't always run by common sense. We have no idea who we will be facing on the interview day, so if you do not want to slip on the interview I recommend that you do your best properly dressing up for the interview.

How does that work? "Sir, your wrinkled tie is an eye sore. Please gather your things and leave at once as we only accept the most starched of clothing here at our school."

 

[OhHamburgers]

How does that work? "Sir, your wrinkled tie is an eye sore. Please gather your things and leave at once as we only accept the most starched of clothing here at our school."

Great sarcasm 😀 but I heard the interview started with him being asked if wearing that wrinkled tie was a professional demanor or sth like that. Well I heard he didn't do well after that. I guess he could have steered it to the right direction after all and still ace the interview that but I think it is certainly not the optimal way to start an interview for most people.

 

[Rambunctious]

Great sarcasm 😀 but I heard the interview started with him being asked if wearing that wrinkled tie was a professional demanor or sth like that. Well I heard he didn't do well after that. I guess he could have steered it to the right direction after all and still ace the interview that but I think it is certainly not the optimal way to start an interview for most people.

A lot of hear say on your end...kind of hard to believe anything you're saying. I really don't think the lack of or quality of a tie will make or break an interview. Yes, dressing nice is recommended, but it really comes down to how your perform in the interview.

 

[catoshiro]

A lot of hear say on your end...kind of hard to believe anything you're saying. I really don't think the lack of or quality of a tie will make or break an interview. Yes, dressing nice is recommended, but it really comes down to how your perform in the interview.

The interview I'm sure weighs more. But out of so many qualified applicants that interview well, they only get so many students to represent their school. Of course they are gonna look for people who are going to uphold the school's reputation of professionalism. Dressing well, cleaned and pressed, is part of that. It may not be entirely fair to judge someone based on their clothing choice, as there is no correlation to performance in dental school, but dentistry is still a people business after all.

 

[OhHamburgers]

A lot of hear say on your end...kind of hard to believe anything you're saying. I really don't think the lack of or quality of a tie will make or break an interview. Yes, dressing nice is recommended, but it really comes down to how your perform in the interview.

I completely agree with you. Dressing professionally is nowhere near as important as one's performance on the interview. I am just saying that it seems to me that sometimes dressing recklessly takes away that precious opportunity to articulate and express who they are. I don't know if it was make or break it right there but certainly having the first question asked liked that must have been tough. I am sure everybody worked very hard to get an invitation and I see that it is very sad that some people didn't think hard enough to dress up well for the interview.

 

[ReptileDisfunction]

I completely agree with you. Dressing professionally is nowhere near as important as one's performance on the interview. I am just saying that it seems to me that sometimes dressing recklessly takes away that precious opportunity to articulate and express who they are. I don't know if it was make or break it right there but certainly having the first question asked liked that must have been tough. I am sure everybody worked very hard to get an invitation and I see that it is very sad that some people didn't think hard enough to dress up well for the interview.

I've been on the other side of interviews for hiring for an office at my school and we use the term "interview extrapolation" for things like this. Part of going on an interview is trying to come across as well as possible. Everyone is trying their hardest to be perfect, and since you know they aren't really being totally them you have to look for little unique qualities and say "if they are being a little sarcastic to us now they will probably be extremely sarcastic when they work here and get comfortable around us" it works with good and bad things, being funny, rude, late, etc. it worked the exact same way for sorority recruitment. If a girl mentioned alcohol even in passing during the more formal part of recruitment when we didn't even get close to topics like that you knew she was going to be a party girl and a decent risk for causing trouble down the road.

It's obviously not a perfect system but it works pretty well most of them time. The wrinkly tie is the same. Part of interviewing in coming dressed perfectly. They're not expecting $5000 suits but basic well fitting and matching and unwrinkled. If someone has something extremely noticeable (in a bad way) you know they're saying to themselves "wow... If this is them at they're very best what will they be like later"

Is it fair? No. But with the thousands of people interviewing dressing the part is just a block to check

 

[Cello]

Some people get nervous during interviews, others put their foot in their mouth. Some people are just not good people, and admissions boards may see right through it. I interviewed students for scholarships on a committee, and I still remember a guy with a 4.0 sGPA, stellar ECs, etc. Not one of us liked him though... When asked why he wanted to be a doctor his answer was, "when I was a stock broker I knew that only people here in this country would understand what that means. I want to be respected no matter where I go in the world. I want people everywhere to understand the importance of what I do." When asked why he volunteers his answer was, "I know that if you want to get to the top you have to start at the bottom. As volunteers we are at the bottom of the ladder, no one respects us, and we aren't important to the hospital, but I know that I have to start by cleaning dishes if I ever want to be chef."

Ugh.

 

[Rambunctious]

Some people get nervous during interviews, others put their foot in their mouth. Some people are just not good people, and admissions boards may see right through it. I interviewed students for scholarships on a committee, and I still remember a guy with a 4.0 sGPA, stellar ECs, etc. Not one of us liked him though... When asked why he wanted to be a doctor his answer was, "when I was a stock broker I knew that only people here in this country would understand what that means. I want to be respected no matter where I go in the world. I want people everywhere to understand the importance of what I do." When asked why he volunteers his answer was, "I know that if you want to get to the top you have to start at the bottom. As volunteers we are at the bottom of the ladder, no one respects us, and we aren't important to the hospital, but I know that I have to start by cleaning dishes if I ever want to be chef."

Ugh.

What do you mean Ugh? He's being completely honest, which is something that a lot of people lack when interviewing. It's strangely refreshing to see someone that replies truthfully than answering with "I want to be a dentist/doctor to help people and my daddy was a dentist/doctor"

 

[aqz]

What do you mean Ugh? He's being completely honest, which is something that a lot of people lack when interviewing. It's strangely refreshing to see someone that replies truthfully than answering with "I want to be a dentist/doctor to help people and my daddy was a dentist/doctor"

If this wasn't sarcasm, I completely agree.

One of my interview questions was prefaced with the "no right or wrong answer" assurance. I was asked "If you saw your best friend cheating during an exam, would you report him/her?" I replied honestly and said no I wouldn't, but I'd certainly tell them in private afterwards that they really shouldn't cheat not just because it's not worth getting caught, but because it's just morally wrong. There could have been other things that went wrong during the interview, but I do believe there's a "right" answer they're looking for that may not coincide with the honest answer you'd actually give.

To be sure, the guy in the above example was not penalized for being honest, but rather for giving the answers that he gave. And yet those people who give "correct" answers amounting to nothing more than a facade are rewarded. Hashtag life is unfair.

 

[BobbyBeavis]

If this wasn't sarcasm, I completely agree.

One of my interview questions was prefaced with the "no right or wrong answer" assurance. I was asked "If you saw your best friend cheating during an exam, would you report him/her?" I replied honestly and said no I wouldn't, but I'd certainly tell them in private afterwards that they really shouldn't cheat not just because it's not worth getting caught, but because it's just morally wrong. There could have been other things that went wrong during the interview, but I do believe there's a "right" answer they're looking for that may not coincide with the honest answer you'd actually give.

To be sure, the guy in the above example was not penalized for being honest, but rather for giving the answers that he gave. And yet those people who give "correct" answers amounting to nothing more than a facade are rewarded. Hashtag life is unfair.

I answered that question exactly as you did. Hopefully it doesn't hurt me, but I answered honestly and my interviewer seemed to appreciate my answer

 

[doc toothache]

The social grace of Genghis Khan probably does not help.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/rejections-the-why-part-ii.1133835/

 

[Cello]

What do you mean Ugh? He's being completely honest, which is something that a lot of people lack when interviewing. It's strangely refreshing to see someone that replies truthfully than answering with "I want to be a dentist/doctor to help people and my daddy was a dentist/doctor"

Yeah, and he's completely and honestly a person who is more concerned with being respected for his job title than bettering humanity. Had he read the instructions for the scholarship application he would have understood that it is a volunteer merit scholarship predicated upon your willingness to improve the lives and health of others; not your insatiable desire to "be respected" everywhere you go just because the letters M and D happen to follow your name. Being a healthcare practitioner is about improving the quality of life of your patients. If you are genuinely interested in showing off your accomplishments so that you can compensate for that achievement complex you picked up as a kid then congratulations, you're honest, and exactly the kind of person most medical / dental schools won't be looking for.

By the way, not a good idea to tell a volunteer scholarship committee that they are on the bottom rung of the hospital hierarchy. Volunteering isn't about climbing latters, and if that's how you see it, then you are betraying your true motivations for becoming a healthcare practitioner. When you have four times as many applicants as scholarships, you have to be selective. We went with the people whom we deemed to have a genuine willingness to serve their community.

If this wasn't sarcasm, I completely agree.

One of my interview questions was prefaced with the "no right or wrong answer" assurance. I was asked "If you saw your best friend cheating during an exam, would you report him/her?" I replied honestly and said no I wouldn't, but I'd certainly tell them in private afterwards that they really shouldn't cheat not just because it's not worth getting caught, but because it's just morally wrong. There could have been other things that went wrong during the interview, but I do believe there's a "right" answer they're looking for that may not coincide with the honest answer you'd actually give.

To be sure, the guy in the above example was not penalized for being honest, but rather for giving the answers that he gave. And yet those people who give "correct" answers amounting to nothing more than a facade are rewarded. Hashtag life is unfair.

It is one thing when someone cheats in undergrad. Not that cheating is ever acceptable, but cheating in professional school puts human lives at risk. A practitioner who cheats their way through classes which teach them pathophysiology are potentially endangering their future patients.

Imagine for a moment if you found out that your pilot cheated his way through landings...