How difficult is Mississippi College?

[RCLEE]

I heard that it's hard, but how hard is it compare to a California UC system?

On their website, students are to complete 33 units in one year over 2 semesters and 1 summer. That's 13-14 units for each semester. A 5 units class has 4hrs lecture & 3hrs lab per week. So, average of 20 hrs/week in class & lab and the rest of the time you can study/work. Am I missing something? Could those who enrolled in the program give some feedbacks?

UC is a pretty tough and respectable system and the grades are usually curve, 85% = A at my school & major. An admission adviser from UNLV told me that a 3.0- is equivalent to a 3.5+ at other universities.

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[Maygyver]

I heard that it's hard, but how hard is it compare to a California UC system?

On their website, students are to complete 33 units in one year over 2 semesters and 1 summer. That's 13-14 units for each semester. A 5 units class has 4hrs lecture & 3hrs lab per week. So, average of 20 hrs/week in class & lab and the rest of the time you can study/work. Am I missing something? Could those who enrolled in the program give some feedbacks?

UC is a pretty tough and respectable system and the grades are usually curve, 85% = A at my school & major. An admission adviser from UNLV told me that a 3.0- is equivalent to a 3.5+ at other universities.

That doesn't sound that tough to me. No personal experience though. Also, 85%= A? Most schools use 93 as an A and 90-93 is A- (or A if they don't do +/-).

I have no idea what that admissions person was talking about here.

 

[RCLEE]

That doesn't sound that tough to me. No personal experience though. Also, 85%= A? Most schools use 93 as an A and 90-93 is A- (or A if they don't do +/-).

I have no idea what that admissions person was talking about here.

85 % = A meaning that most students score so badly on the exams that the professors had to curve lower. With the class size of about 300 students, more than half ran out of time on the exams and most average exam scores were around 60%. Did I forget to mention that those students were the top students at their schools and the GPA for admission to a UC is around 3.8?

 

[Maygyver]

85 % = A meaning that most students score so badly on the exams that the professors had to curve lower. With the class size of about 300 students, more than half ran out of time on the exams and most average exam scores were around 60%. Did I forget to mention that those students were the top students at their schools and the GPA for admission to a UC is around 3.8?

I think this is the same at most schools. That's college for you.

That's cool, I guess. I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Are you thinking of transferring?

 

[RCLEE]

I think this is the same at most schools. That's college for you.

That's cool, I guess. I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Are you thinking of transferring?

No, I want to apply to MC for master and just want to know how tough the program is since I want to get mostly A's and perhaps do some tutoring to earn money.

 

[321931]

To many variable to judge. I.E. Teachers, Class size, Class make-up, Tests, Hw, Syllabus, school grade policy, teachers preferences.

 

[Maygyver]

No, I want to apply to MC for master and just want to know how tough the program is since I want to get mostly A's and perhaps do some tutoring to earn money.

Oh. Their masters program has classes with 300 students in them!? And most of them are from UCs?

I think that if you work hard and are determined you will be able to get A's anywhere (and should if you are making up for a rotten GPA) especially if you will be tutoring too. Also, if a program is more difficult, then it can only be more advantageous towards preparing you for dental school. You'll have to manage tough courses eventually. Best of luck, hopefully someone here has heard of the program.

 

[dentalWorks]

I heard that it's hard, but how hard is it compare to a California UC system?

On their website, students are to complete 33 units in one year over 2 semesters and 1 summer. That's 13-14 units for each semester. A 5 units class has 4hrs lecture & 3hrs lab per week. So, average of 20 hrs/week in class & lab and the rest of the time you can study/work. Am I missing something? Could those who enrolled in the program give some feedbacks?

UC is a pretty tough and respectable system and the grades are usually curve, 85% = A at my school & major. An admission adviser from UNLV told me that a 3.0- is equivalent to a 3.5+ at other universities.

No disrespect, but 85% = A???? that sounds like an easy system....

 

[Impulse155]

I heard that it's hard, but how hard is it compare to a California UC system?

On their website, students are to complete 33 units in one year over 2 semesters and 1 summer. That's 13-14 units for each semester. A 5 units class has 4hrs lecture & 3hrs lab per week. So, average of 20 hrs/week in class & lab and the rest of the time you can study/work. Am I missing something? Could those who enrolled in the program give some feedbacks?

UC is a pretty tough and respectable system and the grades are usually curve, 85% = A at my school & major. An admission adviser from UNLV told me that a 3.0- is equivalent to a 3.5+ at other universities.

It all depends onw hat schools they are comparing them to. Also the curves dont mean anything. Ive had a class where a 70 was an A (not a joke), and in others where 96 was an A. You cant go by that whatsoever.

The average class means that each credit hour requires 3 hours of work per week. 13-14 credits means 39-42 hours of work a week. 13-14 isnt too uncommon and in fact you would find yourself taking more than that normally. I cant remember the last time ive taken less than 15-16

 

[UBERlowGPA]

UC is a pretty tough and respectable system and the grades are usually curve, 85% = A at my school & major. An admission adviser from UNLV told me that a 3.0- is equivalent to a 3.5+ at other universities.

Sounds about right. When I was a student at a UC, most of the science tests were REALLY hard. I remember getting an 80% in a class and that being curved to an A. The idea behind this is so a "ceiling" isn't created grade-wise. It allows the people who go above and beyond learning the material to really show their knowledge. If people are able to ace a midterm or final, then there is no way of differentiating those students from one another.

This system sounds messed up, but in the end, it's all about how much you learn. When things are curved, then a percentage is just a percentage and a grade is just a grade.

 

[promolion]

Curving is a double edge sword. It can save you if the whole class do bad or kill you if the whole class did good.
Some of the professors at my UC like to keep the average around 60%. One time, when the midterm averages went to around 69%, he got surprised and congratulate us on how hard we work. Averages went down to 52% on the next test cause the guy made it a lot harder. No curve= Most of us would fail.....
On the other hand, when a class average is 85%......, the average was a b-, and my 94% was an A-.........bS stuff
If someone can give input of their experience outside of UC and what they have to do, you probably can compare the difficulty.

 

[bluepills]

No disrespect, but 85% = A???? that sounds like an easy system....

Letter grades are relatively standardized across each university, not percentages. The fact that you can miss 20% and still end up with an A means there are more difficult questions. If a high percentage is required for an A, then that means it's easier to score higher, so they need to make the cut off higher for an A.

Look at the Canadian system, for example, 80%+=A but only a small percentage of the class is able to achieve that A because it's so difficult.

But anyways - to the OP: two of my friends are at Mississippi College (one did her Biology degree at Notre Dame, and the other went to Northwestern for Chemistry) and they are sitting at a 3.5 (33S MCAT) and 3.4 (23AA, 24TS), respectively. According to them, the program is very challenging, but fair. At UMMC, apparently the med school students buy the notes packages at MC for gross anatomy, neuroanatomy, histology, and physiology.

 

[RCLEE]

Oh. Their masters program has classes with 300 students in them!? And most of them are from UCs?

300+ that's undergrad. Grad = 100+ in Science. The Biology major had more than 6,000 students when I was there.

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I totally agree with you guys the curve does not determine the level of difficulty of a school nor the class. I guess the graduate Adviser compared it to UNLV is one and other universities out of California.

DentalWork, it sounds easy but it simply isn't. It is curved because it is really tough. Imagine that on certain exam 0 student out of 300 receive a grade above 90%. Those students aren't just any average Joe. They've taken AP, honor, and college courses during their HS years. Those are highly competitive students to begin with.

Impulse155, I was told that those classes are at the medical school level. I can handle 16+ units as an undergad and get mostly A's by putting in 1.5 - 2hrs in for every lecture hour unit (I was just lazy, that's all). In medical school, how many out of class hrs/lecture hr people put in to get an A is the question I should have asked.

 

[amalgamgrillz]

300+ that's undergrad. Grad = 100+ in Science. The Biology major had more than 6,000 students when I was there.

The program might be 100+ students, but the class sizes are much smaller. Not everyone has the same class schedule...

The biggest class you'll have during fall/spring is around 70 people. Average class size is around 40.

 

[RCLEE]

But anyways - to the OP: two of my friends are at Mississippi College (one did her Biology degree at Notre Dame, and the other went to Northwestern for Chemistry) and they are sitting at a 3.5 (33S MCAT) and 3.4 (23AA, 24TS), respectively. According to them, the program is very challenging, but fair. At UMMC, apparently the med school students buy the notes packages at MC for gross anatomy, neuroanatomy, histology, and physiology.

Thanks for the info! If you could ask them how much time they spend studying each week and the # of classes they take each semester would be really helpful. I guess I'm just a bit paranoid since this MC program is my last chance to show Dental Schools that I can do well when I get my butt off the couch.

 

[amalgamgrillz]

At UMMC, apparently the med school students buy the notes packages at MC for gross anatomy, neuroanatomy, histology, and physiology.

Fact. Many of the MC grads at UMC med, Indiana Dental and NYU Dental that I've talked to say they're breezing through anatomy, and that neuro is a complete joke after Dr. Baldwin's classes. A lot of our students who challenge the medical school shelf exams score in the 90+ %ile.

 

[jntm46]

hey RCLEE,

Did you already submit your application and is accepted? I'm actually planning on enrolling at MC too for the MS program.

 

[youknowthedrill]

Opps- posted to the wrong question