How do I pickup and leave one school for another?

[subtle1epiphany]

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Okay, I need some serious advice:
I'm in at my #2 choice, you see it below in my signature. I love the school and think the osteopathic philosophy is great!

I've got my apartment ready there and the lease waiting for me to sign, my loans are all signed for and the Master Promissory Notes have been filed. Here's the thing though, my first choice has me on the waiting list. Relatively high on the waiting list, enough that all the students at my #1 choice (which I've visited again) say I'll likely get in and the staff in the admission office also said that I'm in a great position to be admitted. To make things difficult, #2 choice, MSUCOM, is starting classes (anatomy) in early July, with all the regular coursework beginning in late August. (Virginia doesn't start until mid/late August)

So my plan is this:
Go forward with everything for MSU, which I've done, the apartment, the loans, the summer anatomy course, everything. If I'm accepted to Virginia (hope hope hope! ) I pick up and leave, having given as much notice as possible, of course. My apartment will transfer as I'm renting from an AIMCO property and they've places reasonably near the campus in Virginia.

However, will this work with MSUCOM? or with my loans?

What does a person do in this situation? Any advice? 😕

 

[Megalofyia]

I'm not sure you can transfer like that once your sitting in a classroom.

 

[subtle1epiphany]

I'm not sure you can transfer like that once your sitting in a classroom.

Should I voice my concern to MSUCOM? That sounds like a death wish , if I stay at MSU, which is still awesome, I'll be known as "that guy who doesn't really want to be here."
It's complicated though, because MSUCOM is starting holding the anatomy course in the summer, arrrrggghh...
I thought I'd be okay, but now I'm getting worried. 😕

 

[typeB-md]

are you kidding me? with all the games that ADCOMs play, don't sweat it. if anyone claims you're acting like a dick, kindly remind them that they do the same thing every single year with their applicants.

what is a waitlist anyway, "you're alright, but we'll try to find someone better, but if we can't, you'll do"

i'm glad to see that someone can finally take a shot at the stupid system.

go to class and don't vocalize your intentions... let them hissy if they must.

 

[subtle1epiphany]

are you kidding me? with all the games that ADCOMs play, don't sweat it. if anyone claims you're acting like a dick, kindly remind them that they do the same thing every single year with their applicants.

what is a waitlist anyway, "you're alright, but we'll try to find someone better, but if we can't, you'll do"

i'm glad to see that someone can finally take a shot at the stupid system.

go to class and don't vocalize your intentions... let them hissy if they must.

This is pretty much what I'd hoped to do, and a family friend, who is an MD, thought it would be okay (not that she's an authority or anything). I just want to see what others think.
Just now with all the signing of papers and such, it's getting to me and making me think about the ties I'm making to MSU. Hopefully I'll end up in Virginia.

 

[DrPharaohX]

Also don't forget, you still got May and June for acceptance off the waitlist. May 15th is not here yet.

GOOD LUCK!

 

[MadameLULU]

Once you start the summer anatomy course, you can't switch schools

 

[alhkim]

i concur with the other opinions here...once you matriculate to one school, you have to withdraw your applications to all other schools.

 

[nala]

Are you talking about UVa?

 

[subtle1epiphany]

Are you talking about UVa?

Ummm...not UVa...not really comfortable explicitly saying where...although a quick search of my posts would make it obvious...still...

With all the people saying once I begin the summer anatomy course it doesn't matter if the other school accepts me, is there somewhere I can check this. No offense, I just need to find the protocol on this matter, if one exists. Does it matter if one is an MD school and the other a DO? Plus I hear about people being called after orientation, and they leave one school for another. 😕

I am definitely not going to talk to MSU about this, but would it be stupid to voice this concern to the Admissions office at the school that has me waitlisted? I just hope things go crazy fast on the waitlist this year!!!

 

[dara678]

i think you can check the aamc website for this. BUT i am pretty sure -- as others have told you -- that once you have started class you CANNOT switch schools. i'm not sure how that applies since one is md and one is do, but i also think that that would also be unethical ... considering the fact that once classes start and then you leave, the school is not going to be able to put a candidate from their waitlist in your place. that would be quite unfair to people who wanted to go to msu ...

 

[Hawkeye Kid]

Assuming that the rules are the same now as three years ago, school A cannot extend an acceptance once you've started at school B. So, while I think it's true that you can't switch schools, it's also a moot point since you wouldn't have the option.

Like others have said, there is still plenty of time between now and MSU's start. Most waitlist action will happen during that time frame. Given that, I'm not sure that signing a lease is the best idea since you might not be able to get out of it. The loan papers shouldn't matter, as you won't get the money until you've started.

As a side note, I'm at my #2 after finishing the process at #1 on the waitlist at my first choice. Three years later I couldn't be happier and am very glad that I didn't get into my #1, as I would've gone there and likely not been as happy or gotten the same experience. Just some food for thought. Good luck.

 

[docbill]

Would you not loose tuition money at MSUCOM.

You will prob hear back from them in May when the waitlist starts moving.

 

[subtle1epiphany]

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to respond to my questions, I truly appreciate it!

BUT i am pretty sure -- as others have told you -- that once you have started class you CANNOT switch schools. i'm not sure how that applies since one is md and one is do, but i also think that that would also be unethical ... considering the fact that once classes start and then you leave, the school is not going to be able to put a candidate from their waitlist in your place. that would be quite unfair to people who wanted to go to msu ...

I understand what you mean.
I do want to clarify that although MSU is offering the summer anatomy course, there will be opportunities for the same course during the fall 2005 semester and the following summer. So, were I to leave during that summer course, they could easily fill the seat by the late August enrollment (we aren't truly enrolled until August) and have the entering student take anatomy during that semester or the summer, just as in years past.
I think that this is important as MSUCOM is transitioning to this system in order to increase its class size this year. Otherwise there isn't enough room in the lab for the MSUCOM and MSUCHM students to take anatomy. So as we won't be technically enrolling until fall, would this entire point be moot, and I have the opportunity until then?

 

[dankev]

I am definitely not going to talk to MSU about this, but would it be stupid to voice this concern to the Admissions office at the school that has me waitlisted? I just hope things go crazy fast on the waitlist this year!!!

As others have said, once you've started classes, I think that's it. You definitely want to talk to #1 school about this. Let them know they are your 1st choice, but the school you have been accepted to starts early. If they want you, they'll let you know in time.

 

[LorinE]

Can you defer at your #2 choice? In the worst case scenario you will waste one year but at least then if you get into your #1 choice you can go there this Aug.

 

[randomlogik]

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to respond to my questions, I truly appreciate it!


I understand what you mean.
I do want to clarify that although MSU is offering the summer anatomy course, there will be opportunities for the same course during the fall 2005 semester and the following summer. So, were I to leave during that summer course, they could easily fill the seat by the late August enrollment (we aren't truly enrolled until August) and have the entering student take anatomy during that semester or the summer, just as in years past.
I think that this is important as MSUCOM is transitioning to this system in order to increase its class size this year. Otherwise there isn't enough room in the lab for the MSUCOM and MSUCHM students to take anatomy. So as we won't be technically enrolling until fall, would this entire point be moot, and I have the opportunity until then?

can you just postpone taking the anatomy class till the fall? that way you wouldn't be enrolled in a class during the summer.

 

[alhkim]

Can you defer at your #2 choice? In the worst case scenario you will waste one year but at least then if you get into your #1 choice you can go there this Aug.

you would need to get clearance from the #2 medical school for a leave of absence...you would never get that for "waiting" to get into another school.

 

[ball372]

here's my 2 cents: it sounds like you're leaning more towards the VA school. If that is the case, perhaps you can defer at MSUCOM (provided that you are not BOUND to go there next year , in case you get into the school of your choice).

So, maybe it would be easier for you if you really think about it and decide if you'd be happier at school 1 vs. 2, then go from there....

the worst that can happen, is you'd lose one year - no big deal....

good luck!

 

[exmike]

As others have said, once you've started classes, I think that's it. You definitely want to talk to #1 school about this. Let them know they are your 1st choice, but the school you have been accepted to starts early. If they want you, they'll let you know in time.

Thats not true. thats only for AAMC schools. The DO schools have no idea whats going on with your allo applications. For all MSUCOM knows, you're quitting. You can definitely leave after schools starts. This "one school starts you're stuck" thing only applies to allo school (AAMC traffic rules)

 

[zeloc]

I don't see anything unethical with leaving to go to your first choice school. After all, it isn't your fault that one school starts in the summer, the other starts in the fall, and that your waitlisted. What someone mentioned earlier might be best, if you can take the anatomy class in the fall. Otherwise, I would just take the class in the summer and then leave when you get accepted to the other place.

 

[subtle1epiphany]

Thats not true. thats only for AAMC schools. The DO schools have no idea whats going on with your allo applications. For all MSUCOM knows, you're quitting. You can definitely leave after schools starts. This "one school starts you're stuck" thing only applies to allo school (AAMC traffic rules)

I think I'm going to withdraw from all schools, DO and MD, except for #1 and #2. Then I'll basically wait until I'm forced to choose. My #2, which you all have named, starts in the summer, but does NOT enroll any of us until the fall semester begins, which is past the starting date of my #1. So I should be okay, so long as I have not matriculated/enrolled at a school, especially one in the AAMC. I am completely certain that my #2 will be okay and be able to fill the seat that I will leave even if the summer session has begun, the school has options in place for students who do not opt for the summer anatomy class. I know that I have heard of students leaving one school for another after one or both has already begun its orientation, but this may have been a DO school as the AACOM does not have such stringent protocol/rules as the AAMC.
Thanks to everyone who posted with advice, I really appreciate it! 👍

 

[isellcrack2kids]

why dont you just call some random med school that you dont care about, explain the situation as though theyre your #1 and youre on their waiting list (without giving a name ofcourse) and see if they know of any AMCAS/AAMC computer conflicts (or any other procedural problems) that would prevent you from being able to drop the first school in favor of the other.