How early can we ask for LOR ?

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The reason i ask is that, i believe that the Professors can better attest to your abilities when the semester has just finished and they still remember you as compared to asking him/her a year later.

I plan to apply next year.So would it be a problem if i get a LOR right now??Are there any technical problems with that?

Your thoughts?
 
zed350,
I had the same Q as you. I ended up signing up for interfolio service. They will save all your documents till you apply. You can label LORs confidential such that you won't be able to see them. I plan to ask the professors to send the LOR to the interfolio. When the time comes, you can request interfolio to send the LOR to the med schools for a small fee.

Each school seems to have their own LOR format though (&*^%!). I have not figured out how to deal with that.😕
 
My oldest LOR was 3 years old at the time I applied. No schools had a problem with it that I knew of. It was my non-science prof LOR, and I wanted to get it while the prof still remembered me, instead of after I moved out of state to finish my pre-med classes.

However, I have seen on some school websites that they don't want letters older than a year. I applied to a school like that, and got rejected, but it probably wasn't because one of my letters was too old... it was a reach school anyway.
 
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My oldest LOR was 3 years old at the time I applied. No schools had a problem with it that I knew of. It was my non-science prof LOR, and I wanted to get it while the prof still remembered me, instead of after I moved out of state to finish my pre-med classes.

However, I have seen on some school websites that they don't want letters older than a year. I applied to a school like that, and got rejected, but it probably wasn't because one of my letters was too old... it was a reach school anyway.


Well, actually at the time adcoms read my primary app the letter was a little over 2 1/2 yrs old.
 
The reason i ask is that, i believe that the Professors can better attest to your abilities when the semester has just finished and they still remember you as compared to asking him/her a year later.

I plan to apply next year.So would it be a problem if i get a LOR right now??Are there any technical problems with that?

Your thoughts?

I agree and don't think it is a problem at all. That is why I got 2 of my LORs a year before I applied to med school.
 
But what if you plan to apply widely (like 20 apps) I am not sure the people that agreed to give me an LOR feel about doing 25 forms for different schools.
 
Don't many schools ask for additional LORs in the secondary too? Are you supposed to keep a few LORs to use for secondaries? If so any strategies for what types to hold?
 
But what if you plan to apply widely (like 20 apps) I am not sure the people that agreed to give me an LOR feel about doing 25 forms for different schools.

That's why if you use the interfolio program, your professor only needs to send one letter, and then you can request that the LOR be sent to whatever school you are applying.
 
That keep you coming back to this site.

Great Information. Now I know that I can ask for a LOR from my Bio Professor even though I wouldnt' be applying for admission until Fall 2009. He seems to be a stand up guy and won't hold back any punches or write something just because I ask him for a reference.

I joke around about his Neil Young questions and the like but I'm glad I ran into him on the first course I'm taking in this quest back in undergraduate.

I needed someone who will bust my stones a little bit just to get myself back into the flow of the academic life. It's been so long I'm still shaking off the cobwebs.

I'll look into "interfolio" and start collecting my LOR's as soon as possible.
 
That keep you coming back to this site.

Great Information. Now I know that I can ask for a LOR from my Bio Professor even though I wouldnt' be applying for admission until Fall 2009. He seems to be a stand up guy and won't hold back any punches or write something just because I ask him for a reference.

I joke around about his Neil Young questions and the like but I'm glad I ran into him on the first course I'm taking in this quest back in undergraduate.

I needed someone who will bust my stones a little bit just to get myself back into the flow of the academic life. It's been so long I'm still shaking off the cobwebs.

I'll look into "interfolio" and start collecting my LOR's as soon as possible.


To me LOR's a very nerve wracking aspect of this process.
Today I dropped off my resume, transcript, and statement of intent to a great Chem II professor for consideration, asking for a LOR if he feels comfortable writing one. I'll remind him at the end of the semester, and hopefully we'll actually sit and discuss things for a good 1/2 hour.
I'm applying next Spring/Summer (08). My LOR's in the SCIENCES aren't going to be "personal", since I've been a Spanish Major and don't have any one professor in the sciences more than a semester. It's disappointing but I'm handling it the best I can.
-Alexander, 29. Temple U.
 
To me LOR's a very nerve wracking aspect of this process.
Today I dropped off my resume, transcript, and statement of intent to a great Chem II professor for consideration, asking for a LOR if he feels comfortable writing one. I'll remind him at the end of the semester, and hopefully we'll actually sit and discuss things for a good 1/2 hour.
I'm applying next Spring/Summer (08). My LOR's in the SCIENCES aren't going to be "personal", since I've been a Spanish Major and don't have any one professor in the sciences more than a semester. It's disappointing but I'm handling it the best I can.
-Alexander, 29. Temple U.

Did you ask for an appointment at the time that you just "dropped off" your packet of information? Waiting until the end of the semester might be a bit late for scheduling the meeting. Things tend to get fairly rushed for faculty towards the end of the semester. Schedule the meeting as soon as possible and by the end of the semester, you can send a reminder if the letter has not been done. That way, you are more than just a packet of information when you are asking for an appointment/submitting a reminder.
 
The reason i ask is that, i believe that the Professors can better attest to your abilities when the semester has just finished and they still remember you as compared to asking him/her a year later.

I plan to apply next year.So would it be a problem if i get a LOR right now??Are there any technical problems with that?

Your thoughts?

What worked for me when I took a large class sized cell bio course was to make an appointment up front (at the begining of the course). I asked the prof that other than me making up questions to ask him after lectures, and therefore wasting his time (he appreciated the candor), what else might I do to earn a LOR from him. He said, let's sit down and chat. I have a few ideas. As it turns out he sort of mentored me, through 1-2 subsequent meetings, to critique a paper on some extracellular matrix and membrane bound proteins, and their interactions. It was unique, but I'm pretty sure I got a good LOR from him (I signed a contract that I couldn't have access to the LOR).

In other cases, I just sort of got to know the profs. In one case, the dude was about my age. He dropped out of med school after 2 years to go the PhD route, cause he was more interested in basic science and teaching. I did set an appointment with him via an email and told him I'd be needing a LOR for med school. Always ask "would you be willing to write me a LOR for med school. We need these from professors such as yourself" etc. or "what would it take for you to write me a LOR for med school". We were kind of buddies, in a sense, but that's uncommon I'd say.

It all depends. SOMETIMES, as long as the Q's are valid as well as your interest, it may pay to stay after to ask for further explanation on a question you have. Strategically, you would do so in some topic, perhaps covered in class, that would be relevant (thus, they'd be happy to chat about it) to some research they've done. Thus, do your research on their interests.

I think there are many ways to get LORs from professors. Personally, I think they're VERY important, in the long run. I've also found that email communications, periodically, like "hey Dr. X, I just had a question regarding vessicular transport and the interaction of t-snares and v-snares etc etc." This will give you at least a preliminary dialogue. Then, you may approach him/her in person later. Introduce yourself, like a professional. "Hi Dr. X, I'm Sally Mae, and I just wanted to thank you for the quick response on my vessicular transport question I asked you via email. Thanks a lot!" This begins a report.

Again, it depends on the personality of the prof. I think the best method is to say, up front, "Hey Dr. X, I'll be applying to med school next Fall, and they require LORs from professors such as yourself (they know this already, but it's flattering to say it). I've never done this before, but is there any way I could set an appointment with you, at your convenience, to introduce myself to you and discuss ways in which you may be willing to write a GOOD LOR for me? I would really appreciate it. And, I can be flexible around your schedule... For example, maybe we could think of some sort of scientific paper critique/review I might do, or some kind of extra credit. Or, heck, I could even help you out in your lab "if you ever got into a deadline crunch".....(this stuff just shows your willingness to scratch his/her back for them doing you the same.....)"

That kind of thing. Good luck!
 
lots of great advice. here's a diff side of it. i went back for pre reqs 8 yrs after college. I think all the teachers died off b/c only 1 was left and thank god he remembered me (he wrote an excellent 2 pg LOR). to help make up the one missing, I used my supervisor (a physician). then I had to write an addendum to my secondaries stating why there will be a "employer" instead of 2nd teacher letter. it's another hoop but just know it's possible for non trads.

downfall....not all adcom secretaries know that. my favorite was one person held my app for 2 months in a box b/c she was still waiting for the 2nd professor LOR!! I spoke with the adcom dean and it was smoothed out. always call and check up on them !!
 
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I requested an appointment. The fact of the meeting was a bit different; there were a rush of students at his door waiting for attention to be paid.
So it was a rushed introduction. But I plan to visit him a couple of more times during the course, and one final time after. good question and thanks!

Did you ask for an appointment at the time that you just "dropped off" your packet of information? Waiting until the end of the semester might be a bit late for scheduling the meeting. Things tend to get fairly rushed for faculty towards the end of the semester. Schedule the meeting as soon as possible and by the end of the semester, you can send a reminder if the letter has not been done. That way, you are more than just a packet of information when you are asking for an appointment/submitting a reminder.