How exactly do military residencies work if you do HPSP?

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My recruiter seems to know hardly anything about this. I was thinking of doing HPSP through the Air Force, but from what I've read on here I have seriously been rethinking this. Must you do a military match first? They can make you do something before your residency too? I'm pretty confused about this all. When do you start paying back your commitment?
 
Everyone completes an internship. After internship you either go out to the fleet as a General Medical Officer or begin a PGY2 year. During internship there is an application process.

You can find detailed info here: http://www.militarymedicine.com/survivalguide
 
The military gets first crack at you in the military match. If they take you for an internship, you are automatically pulled out of the NRMP. Some fields give out deferments (ie - let you go do civilian internship and residency) like candy. Others give out none.

Whether you go straight to residency after internship is largely dependent on your field of study and which branch of service you are in. I have no idea how the AF is doing it these days. Navy is about 50%, but highly varies by field.

Nothing is promised, but the best students usually seem to get what they want (in my own limited experience).

I think that is a very fair assessment. Straight through training is likely to increase as the GMO pool is diminshing. AF did pull about 50 to be flight medicine docs, but they do try to have people go straight through.
 
My recruiter seems to know hardly anything about this. I was thinking of doing HPSP through the Air Force, but from what I've read on here I have seriously been rethinking this. Must you do a military match first? They can make you do something before your residency too? I'm pretty confused about this all. When do you start paying back your commitment?

Ha ha. I wish I had this forum to ask this question to about 8 years ago. I wouldn't be sitting at this computer in the Middle East typing this if I had. The reason he doesn't seem to know anything about this is that he doesn't know much about it. He has no idea how either the military or civilian match works. And what he does know he won't tell you because if you really knew how it worked, you wouldn't sign up. Here is how it works if you're lucky:

Early in your fourth year of medical school, instead of going to rotate at someplace you want to do your residency, you go rotate at a military hospital so you can make a good impression. As part of that rotation, you interview with the residency program director and emphasize to him how much you want to do your chosen specialty but then politely inform him you want to do a civilian residency. About this time the list of anticipated civilian deferrals in your chosen specialty and service comes out and hopefully they are actually letting somebody defer this year. You then fly at your own expense to the other programs in your service and specialty and interview, telling them the same thing. You begin applying to 10-50 civilian programs (at your own expense) and lining up interviews. You make your military "rank list", listing civilian deferral first, then the other military programs in your specialty and send it in. Then you begin doing civilian program interviews. You probably do 4 or 5 of these and then you get the results of the military match in mid-December. You are somehow lucky enough to get one of the deferral spots and continue attending your civilian interviews, rank your top choices and get your top choice. You spent 3-5 years away from the military, and then when you come on active duty, you owe 4 years (for a 4 year HPSP scholarship.)

You'll notice that is a long and much more arduous process than your civilian counterparts go through. Not only are they able to rotate at places they actually WANT to match at early in their 4th year, but they don't have to hassle with the military match at all. Here are the additional places in the process you can get screwed over:

1) You don't understand that the military match is not a computer, it is 3-5 people sitting around a desk determining if and where you'll train in your chosen specialty. They choose based on a vague point system that gives way too much credit for prior service, research, and "potential as a military officer" as well as how much they like you.

2) There simply may not be any civilian deferrals in your chosen specialty in your service that year. In fact, they may not want anyone in your chosen specialty at all, or they may want so few it turns out to be much more competitive than in the civilian world (the year I applied there was a 50% match rate in the military, 93% in the civilian world in my specialty.)

3) You may not be chosen to be trained in your specialty and are forced into a crappy military internship + a GMO tour.

4) You may be put into a military residency program rather than given a civilian deferral.

5) You may have waited until you heard from the military match before applying to and interviewing at civilian programs, be given a deferral, and not have a chance to take advantage of it.


Choosing a specialty and matching is stressful enough without getting the military involved. Do yourself a favor and wait to join the military until you are done with medical school. You can still join then and get money to pay back your loans (it is called the FAP program.)

Good luck with your decision.
 
Ha ha. I wish I had this forum to ask this question to about 8 years ago. I wouldn't be sitting at this computer in the Middle East typing this if I had. The reason he doesn't seem to know anything about this is that he doesn't know much about it. He has no idea how either the military or civilian match works. And what he does know he won't tell you because if you really knew how it worked, you wouldn't sign up. Here is how it works if you're lucky:

Early in your fourth year of medical school, instead of going to rotate at someplace you want to do your residency, you go rotate at a military hospital so you can make a good impression. As part of that rotation, you interview with the residency program director and emphasize to him how much you want to do your chosen specialty but then politely inform him you want to do a civilian residency. About this time the list of anticipated civilian deferrals in your chosen specialty and service comes out and hopefully they are actually letting somebody defer this year. You then fly at your own expense to the other programs in your service and specialty and interview, telling them the same thing. You begin applying to 10-50 civilian programs (at your own expense) and lining up interviews. You make your military "rank list", listing civilian deferral first, then the other military programs in your specialty and send it in. Then you begin doing civilian program interviews. You probably do 4 or 5 of these and then you get the results of the military match in mid-December. You are somehow lucky enough to get one of the deferral spots and continue attending your civilian interviews, rank your top choices and get your top choice. You spent 3-5 years away from the military, and then when you come on active duty, you owe 4 years (for a 4 year HPSP scholarship.)

You'll notice that is a long and much more arduous process than your civilian counterparts go through. Not only are they able to rotate at places they actually WANT to match at early in their 4th year, but they don't have to hassle with the military match at all. Here are the additional places in the process you can get screwed over:

1) You don't understand that the military match is not a computer, it is 3-5 people sitting around a desk determining if and where you'll train in your chosen specialty. They choose based on a vague point system that gives way too much credit for prior service, research, and "potential as a military officer" as well as how much they like you.

2) There simply may not be any civilian deferrals in your chosen specialty in your service that year. In fact, they may not want anyone in your chosen specialty at all, or they may want so few it turns out to be much more competitive than in the civilian world (the year I applied there was a 50% match rate in the military, 93% in the civilian world in my specialty.)

3) You may not be chosen to be trained in your specialty and are forced into a crappy military internship + a GMO tour.

4) You may be put into a military residency program rather than given a civilian deferral.

5) You may have waited until you heard from the military match before applying to and interviewing at civilian programs, be given a deferral, and not have a chance to take advantage of it.


Choosing a specialty and matching is stressful enough without getting the military involved. Do yourself a favor and wait to join the military until you are done with medical school. You can still join then and get money to pay back your loans (it is called the FAP program.)

Good luck with your decision.

I agree 100% with this post . Stay away from the AFHPSP!👎
 
Oh my, thanks for this information. You've helped a TON. I was already looking at the FAP for if I wanted to join the military afterwards, no guarantee there, but man I'm so glad I got rejected from med school last year because I was accepted for HPSP and would have ended up doing it. (Kind of odd, I was wait listed at 5 schools, count my lucky stars? 😕)

So now I have to figure out a way to politely tell my recruiter to leave me alone hehe.
 
Why you unpatriotic basturds. You hate this country so much, why don't you all just leave then. Go live in Afghanistan or something.
 
So now I have to figure out a way to politely tell my recruiter to leave me alone hehe.

Shouldn't it be simple, if you want to tell him (or her) the truth? Say that FAP > HPSP for you because of the residency selection issues, thank your recruiter for your time, and hope everything is understood. If he or she does understand, all the better; if not, well, more reason to step back and take a breather. 🙄
 
why you have to mis-quote me? You stupid lying basturd! If I see you on the street, I will smash your fuhkin face.

It was just a simple copy/paste mistake which I already fixed. BTW, why the insults? Are you really a physician or a trashy red-neck with nothing better to say? This troll needs to be banned ASAP.
 
Everyone completes an internship. After internship you either go out to the fleet as a General Medical Officer or begin a PGY2 year. During internship there is an application process.

You can find detailed info here: http://www.militarymedicine.com/survivalguide

When you say there is an application process during your internship year, are you referring to residency programs who do not have an internship year attached to their program? I know that in the civilian world, there are residency programs where you only have to match with them at the end of fourth year of medical school for their program. You do PGY-1 with them, and then you automatically go to PGY-2 without another application process. Same case in the military?

On a related note, I looked at the IFBA approved residencies for 2007 and noticed that none of the peds programs has an internship year attached to it, but the program length is still 3 years. Does this mean that you have to do a year of internship plus a 3 years residency= 4 yrs. of GME? Civilian peds programs are ONLY 3 years INCLUDING PGY-1. Am I misinterpreting the information or do you have to do an additional year in the military in order to become a board certified peds doc?

Another question is if the residency program does include a transitional PGY-1, is the training for that year done at the same location or are you sent off to different locations on a monthly basis like your 3rd and 4th year of medical school?
 
Why you unpatriotic basturds. You hate this country so much, why don't you all just leave then. Go live in Afghanistan or something.

This thread isn't about patriotism. It is about #1 paying for medical training and #2 getting the best training possible. The OP did not express an interest to sacrifice his career for his country, in which case he would have been lauded as a patriot.

If you want to chit-chat about patriotism, come on over to the sandbox or start your own damn thread.
 
When you say there is an application process during your internship year, are you referring to residency programs who do not have an internship year attached to their program? I know that in the civilian world, there are residency programs where you only have to match with them at the end of fourth year of medical school for their program. You do PGY-1 with them, and then you automatically go to PGY-2 without another application process. Same case in the military?

I'm not 100% I understand your question. In the military medical system you don't automatically go to PGY2. You have to go through a whole other application process/match during internship.

On a related note, I looked at the IFBA approved residencies for 2007 and noticed that none of the peds programs has an internship year attached to it, but the program length is still 3 years. Does this mean that you have to do a year of internship plus a 3 years residency= 4 yrs. of GME? Civilian peds programs are ONLY 3 years INCLUDING PGY-1. Am I misinterpreting the information or do you have to do an additional year in the military in order to become a board certified peds doc?

No in the military you would do 1 year internship plus 2 years peds for a total of 3 years. Some specialties (internal medicine? obgyn?) require categorial internship. So say you did a peds internship and then wanted to switch to OBGYN you might have to repeat your internship.

Another question is if the residency program does include a transitional PGY-1, is the training for that year done at the same location or are you sent off to different locations on a monthly basis like your 3rd and 4th year of medical school?

I think most internships require you to rotate at an outside hospital. I think its great because it gives you more experience.
 
What about Army HPSP?

I'm already an Officer in the Reserves. Do I start all over again as an O1 if I am accepted in the Army HPSP?


Thank you

Yes you will revert back to O-1, but when you graduate, you get 4 years for your degree (which puts you at O-3) and half credit for your prior commissioned service. For longevity, you get the time prior to med school, but the clock stops while in med school and resumes upon graduation.

So if you are an O-3 with 10 years of service, you would get credit for 5. Added to the 4 for med school you would be an O-3 with 5 years towards O-4 and likely put on O-4 a year after med school. For pay you would start as an O-3 over 10 after med school. While in med school you would be paid as an O-1 over 10.
 
Yes you will revert back to O-1, but when you graduate, you get 4 years for your degree (which puts you at O-3) and half credit for your prior commissioned service. For longevity, you get the time prior to med school, but the clock stops while in med school and resumes upon graduation.

So if you are an O-3 with 10 years of service, you would get credit for 5. Added to the 4 for med school you would be an O-3 with 5 years towards O-4 and likely put on O-4 a year after med school. For pay you would start as an O-3 over 10 after med school. While in med school you would be paid as an O-1 over 10.

Just to be technically correct, you do not lose any rank. From the Army HPSP Policy Handbook: "Prior service personnel who held a higher commissioned grade may normally retain the higher authorized grade, unless precluded by reserve grade restriction or other reasons. All personnel, regardless of entry grade, must wear the rank of second lieutenant during the 45-day active duty training tour."

You should retain your O-3 rank for most important documents (e.g. ID card). However, for the majority of your HPSP-related documents, the rank of O-1 will be used, including on your LES. I can't recall having to use the fact that my rank was higher than what was shown on my uniform, but it can sometimes cause confusion when trying to in/out-process (esp. if it's a military installation you have been to before in your former specialty).

Again to further clarify, you will receive half credit towards promotion for all commissioned time. You will receive no credit for enlisted time towards promotion. NavyFP did say that this, but I just wanted to clarify for those with both enlisted and commissioned prior service (like me! 😎)

I'm not 100% I understand your question. In the military medical system you don't automatically go to PGY2. You have to go through a whole other application process/match during internship.

Now maybe I'm not understanding, but there are certainly programs (at least within the Army) where you are awarded a continuous contract and do not have to re-submit during internship.

This is from the Letter of Instruction that we were given this year:

In an effort to facilitate continuity of training, the Army Medical Department will continue, in academic year 2008, their single step selection process beginning at the FYGME level. This process allows a medical student to be considered and selected for a graduate medical education (GME) program leading to specialty board certification in their chosen specialty without having to submit a separate application for post-graduate year level 2(PGY2) and above training.

The Army offers this continuous training in the specialties of Anesthesiology, Child Neurology, Dermatology, Emergency Medicine, Family Medicine, Internal Medicine, Neurology, Neurosurgery, OB-GYN, Ophthalmology, Orthopaedics, Otolaryngology, Pathology, Pediatrics, Physical Medicine, Psychiatry, Psychiatry/Internal Medicine, Radiology (Diagnostic) and Urology.

The Army will offer all students who are selected for these designated specialties the option of entering into a contract for the entire duration of their specialty training (continuous training contract) if they have passed all parts of their respective licensing exams. Students may accept the offer of training for the entire length of the residency or indicate their preference to perform only the FYGME with the Army.

 
Now maybe I'm not understanding, but there are certainly programs (at least within the Army) where you are awarded a continuous contract and do not have to re-submit during internship.

This is from the Letter of Instruction that we were given this year:

In an effort to facilitate continuity of training, the Army Medical Department will continue, in academic year 2008, their single step selection process beginning at the FYGME level. This process allows a medical student to be considered and selected for a graduate medical education (GME) program leading to specialty board certification in their chosen specialty without having to submit a separate application for post-graduate year level 2(PGY2) and above training.

The Army offers this continuous training in the specialties of Anesthesiology, Child Neurology, Dermatology, Emergency Medicine, Family Medicine, Internal Medicine, Neurology, Neurosurgery, OB-GYN, Ophthalmology, Orthopaedics, Otolaryngology, Pathology, Pediatrics, Physical Medicine, Psychiatry, Psychiatry/Internal Medicine, Radiology (Diagnostic) and Urology.

The Army will offer all students who are selected for these designated specialties the option of entering into a contract for the entire duration of their specialty training (continuous training contract) if they have passed all parts of their respective licensing exams. Students may accept the offer of training for the entire length of the residency or indicate their preference to perform only the FYGME with the Army.


Anyone know if this is true for AF also? That would really really suck if it's different for individual branches...
 
Are there any specialties in which it would be easier to match via the military, i.e. could a student choose a military career path to better ensure matching a desired specialty?

It's possible but that's not a good strategy simply because what specialties are needed is dictated by the needs of the Army/AF/Navy. Therefore, the numbers needed for each specialty change yearly, so what was competitive this year may not be competitive next year. Also, people are sheep. One year, everybody will apply to rads so the ratio of applicants to positions goes up to 5:1 and rads looks competitive. The next year, no one applies to rads because they don't think they can get it so the ratio goes to 0.6:1 and rads looks like an easy match. For your more competitive specialties, there are not a lot of positions available anyway. In 2007 Army match, ENT had 6 positions available and 4 applicants/position. Compare that to 1.3 applicants/position in the regular match. On the other hand, for diagnostic rads, there were 15 positions and 1 applicant/position vs 1.3/position in regular match. See, it's a crapshoot.

Overall, I personally think you have a better chance of matching into the specialty of your choosing in the civilian match provided you apply widely and are willing to go wherever they will accept you. In the military, the pool is small and what is available changes annually.

But this is just my opinion.
 
I agree with you DIVE...I am just a poor little OCS guy about to commission and its crackin me up how this guy is pinned an officer, and yet lacks any manners.

The TROLL must go!

I apologize, I felt provoked. I feel terrible when people put down our armed forces. And I am the type of guy that doesn't back down from a fight, ex-infantry. But anyways, I apologize for my lack of civility.

And also, I wasn't even talking to you. Technically, if you are really OCS, I outrank you.
 
Yes you will revert back to O-1, but when you graduate, you get 4 years for your degree (which puts you at O-3) and half credit for your prior commissioned service. For longevity, you get the time prior to med school, but the clock stops while in med school and resumes upon graduation.

So if you are an O-3 with 10 years of service, you would get credit for 5. Added to the 4 for med school you would be an O-3 with 5 years towards O-4 and likely put on O-4 a year after med school. For pay you would start as an O-3 over 10 after med school. While in med school you would be paid as an O-1 over 10.


Thank you. I appreciate your help.
 
This thread isn't about patriotism. It is about #1 paying for medical training and #2 getting the best training possible. The OP did not express an interest to sacrifice his career for his country, in which case he would have been lauded as a patriot.

If you want to chit-chat about patriotism, come on over to the sandbox or start your own damn thread.


Thank you for your service, and I apologize.
 
Thank you for your service, and I apologize.

I still think you are an unprofessional troll. Your most recent diatribe is totally inappropriate for someone who claims to be an “MD”. Is the phrase “do no harm” familiar to you? BTW, if that is the way you usually respond to disagreement then a career in the medical filed is not for you. Think about it. You might be doing a huge favor to your future potential patients. 👎
 
the md in my login name is just that, just a login name. I'm still a post-bac student and have never claimed that I was an MD. Yay, you know hippocratic oath, good for you
 
I'm still a post-bac student and have never claimed that I was an MD

Why would you use “MD” in your screen name if you are not a physician? You might as well use PhD or DMD or JD since apparently they are just letters without any particular significance. One word for you my pseudo-peer: FRAUD. 👎
 
Why would you use “MD” in your screen name if you are not a physician? You might as well use PhD or DMD or JD since apparently they are just letters without any particular significance. One word for you my pseudo-peer: FRAUD. 👎


Why would I be an MD and ask a question about applying for HPSP?? If you would have looked at my profile from the beginning, you would have known that I am just a post-bac student. Besides, a lot of pre-med students use "MD" in their screen names here at SDN.

You're not too bright at all. Learn some basic reading comprehension.

Go ahead and keep insulting me and calling me names. See what happens.
 
Thank you for your service, and I apologize.

No worries. The patriotism of many of the frequent, long-term posters such as myself is frequently assailed. It isn't that we don't want to serve our country, more that we'd like to have that service not only be reasonably pleasant, not ruin our careers, and allow us to take care of the greatest population of people in the country.
 
Why you unpatriotic basturds. You hate this country so much, why don't you all just leave then. Go live in Afghanistan or something.


Strangely this is very insulting. Since when did asking questions about a profession have anything to do with one's patriotic attitude? I was just checking to see how a process works. Just because people post facts about a ridiculous and frustrating process doesn't mean that the people who post these facts about how the process works are unpatriotic. Oh yeah, learn some basic grammar and spelling too!
 
Strangely this is very insulting. Since when did asking questions about a profession have anything to do with one's patriotic attitude? I was just checking to see how a process works. Just because people post facts about a ridiculous and frustrating process doesn't mean that the people who post these facts about how the process works are unpatriotic. Oh yeah, learn some basic grammar and spelling too!


Hey, I know I was wrong to say that. I apologized already. If you don't want to accept my apology, then forget you.
 
You hear that , DiveMD? You should also add spelling and basic grammar to your list of things to learn.
Um, no. I would put DiveMD's literacy somewhere significantly north of 6th grade. I cannot say the same for yours.

In point of fact, I cannot say for sure that you are literate. Thank you for your application, please feel free to try again in the future.

(get used to that phrase)

EDIT: Ah, crap, I suppose I didn't mean that. I'm sure you'll get into a perfectly fine Caribbean medical school. It just bugs me that people who got into the military process, for whatever reason, have their patriotism questioned. I mean, question their common sense, query their passing familiarity with finance, but the last bloody thing that should be beyond reproach is their duty to the flag. *le sigh*
 
Um, no. I would put DiveMD's literacy somewhere significantly north of 6th grade. I cannot say the same for yours.

In point of fact, I cannot say for sure that you are literate. Thank you for your application, please feel free to try again in the future.

(get used to that phrase)

EDIT: Ah, crap, I suppose I didn't mean that. I'm sure you'll get into a perfectly fine Caribbean medical school. It just bugs me that people who got into the military process, for whatever reason, have their patriotism questioned. I mean, question their common sense, query their passing familiarity with finance, but the last bloody thing that should be beyond reproach is their duty to the flag. *le sigh*


What application? I haven't applied for anything since I got accepted into my post-bac program over a year ago.

But you are right, my english skills are not perfect, because I am ESL. I learned most of my english while on active duty in the Army. My verbal score for my practice MCATS are not too good, but I have been told that my physical/biological science scores are decent.

I have a lot of other things to be proud of though. I am the first military Officer in my family and also the first in my family to graduate from college. And so far, I have a 4.0 GPA in my post-bac program. Not bad for a boy from a tiny island in the Pacific Ocean who grew up walking around on the ground barefoot. My family is very proud of me and I am too. I love this country and I love serving in the military.

When I do apply to medical school and if I get rejected, that is fine. Many people don't get in. Life goes on.

Anyways, I was just joking, gee whiz. I know that "grammar and spelling" comment was meant for me. I apologized already for my "patriotism" post.
 
Dude, learn to read, I said I was joking and I apologized for my post. Oh and believe me, I am BRUTALLY honest!

You are not my friend nor have the standing to call me "dude". Why don't you take you great insight to wherever you came from? BTW, I'm done with this conversation.
 
Dude! Dude, dude, dude, dude, you racist arrogant dude, I have a military obligation to stay in America. Besides, I already established US citizenship and residency in Georgia.

I never said I was your friend nor claimed to have great insight. Good bye and good riddance. Be off now, and find yourself some basic reading comprehension skills.

Troll, you are unfit to be physician. I dare you point one single racist remark in any of my posts...
 
Yay, you know hippocratic oath, good for you

Apparently you do not, however. The phrase "do no harm" does not appear in the text of the ancient or modern Hippocratic oath.

It's a common mistake, but it can be poor form for physicians and future physicians to miss this little fact.
 
Ha ha. I wish I had this forum to ask this question to about 8 years ago. I wouldn't be sitting at this computer in the Middle East typing this if I had. The reason he doesn't seem to know anything about this is that he doesn't know much about it. He has no idea how either the military or civilian match works. And what he does know he won't tell you because if you really knew how it worked, you wouldn't sign up. Here is how it works if you're lucky:

Early in your fourth year of medical school, instead of going to rotate at someplace you want to do your residency, you go rotate at a military hospital so you can make a good impression. As part of that rotation, you interview with the residency program director and emphasize to him how much you want to do your chosen specialty but then politely inform him you want to do a civilian residency. About this time the list of anticipated civilian deferrals in your chosen specialty and service comes out and hopefully they are actually letting somebody defer this year. You then fly at your own expense to the other programs in your service and specialty and interview, telling them the same thing. You begin applying to 10-50 civilian programs (at your own expense) and lining up interviews. You make your military "rank list", listing civilian deferral first, then the other military programs in your specialty and send it in. Then you begin doing civilian program interviews. You probably do 4 or 5 of these and then you get the results of the military match in mid-December. You are somehow lucky enough to get one of the deferral spots and continue attending your civilian interviews, rank your top choices and get your top choice. You spent 3-5 years away from the military, and then when you come on active duty, you owe 4 years (for a 4 year HPSP scholarship.)

You'll notice that is a long and much more arduous process than your civilian counterparts go through. Not only are they able to rotate at places they actually WANT to match at early in their 4th year, but they don't have to hassle with the military match at all. Here are the additional places in the process you can get screwed over:

1) You don't understand that the military match is not a computer, it is 3-5 people sitting around a desk determining if and where you'll train in your chosen specialty. They choose based on a vague point system that gives way too much credit for prior service, research, and "potential as a military officer" as well as how much they like you.

2) There simply may not be any civilian deferrals in your chosen specialty in your service that year. In fact, they may not want anyone in your chosen specialty at all, or they may want so few it turns out to be much more competitive than in the civilian world (the year I applied there was a 50% match rate in the military, 93% in the civilian world in my specialty.)

3) You may not be chosen to be trained in your specialty and are forced into a crappy military internship + a GMO tour.

4) You may be put into a military residency program rather than given a civilian deferral.

5) You may have waited until you heard from the military match before applying to and interviewing at civilian programs, be given a deferral, and not have a chance to take advantage of it.


Choosing a specialty and matching is stressful enough without getting the military involved. Do yourself a favor and wait to join the military until you are done with medical school. You can still join then and get money to pay back your loans (it is called the FAP program.)

Good luck with your decision.


hey, is this specific for a branch? does this apply to those on the army hpsp?
 
hey, is this specific for a branch? does this apply to those on the army hpsp?

The process is the same but the percentages vary by specialty, service, and year. I had heard recently that the army wasn't forcing GMO tours anymore, but I cannot say for sure. I'm not sure what their alternative is if they don't need what you want to do....I can't imagine they'll let you get a civilian deferral to go do an OMT residency or something like that.
 
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