how important are As?

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Hi. I'm taking Chem I right now (and Chem II next month). I think I'm looking at getting a B+ in Chem I. How important are getting As? Should I drop the course and take Chem I/Chem II at a different school so I get the A? If I take it at a different school, I feel as if I can get an A but obviously there arent guarantees. I'm leaning towards dropping... but any input would be great. Please help! Thanks.

 

[MD Rapper]

Hi. I'm taking Chem I right now (and Chem II next month). I think I'm looking at getting a B+ in Chem I. How important are getting As? Should I drop the course and take Chem I/Chem II at a different school so I get the A? If I take it at a different school, I feel as if I can get an A but obviously there arent guarantees. I'm leaning towards dropping... but any input would be great. Please help! Thanks.

Hey whats up?

Getting A's is vitally important for admission into medical school. Especially in your core requisite science classes (such as gen chem). Drop the course and take it at another school... and I hope you are dropping before the "W" deadline. W's don't look too good on transcripts. If you will get a W when you drop, you should probably just stick it out and work very hard to get the A. But yeah, if it's an option, take it somewhere else and get an A. Adcoms love to see a nice grade on your transcript because your science GPA is a huge part of admissions; where you take it is not a big deal.

Hope that answers your question.

 

[HydroxylGroupOH]

I wholeheartedly Disagree!

A B+ is not a bad grade. A "W" is a BAD mark to have on a transcript. Take the B+ and get A's in the rest of your premed courses.

If you look at the averages of people who are accepted, a 3.3 (B+) lies within one standard deviation of the average (3.6). This means that people who AVERAGE a B+ in ALL premed courses fall within one standard deviation of the mean. A B+ in one course will NOT hurt you. Do not drop the course.

 

[bubbajones]

I dont have any A's in my pre-reqs they are all B's should I retake? Also how important are the lab grades?

 

[bubbajones]

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[bubbajones]

Im serious yall I have all B's in my pre req's and in lab
Gen chem 1 f,d (i have to retake it a third time)
gen chem 2 d (have to retake)

Please give me some advice. I have 2 A's in upper division bio classes

 

[medic170]

Hi. I'm taking Chem I right now (and Chem II next month). I think I'm looking at getting a B+ in Chem I. How important are getting As? Should I drop the course and take Chem I/Chem II at a different school so I get the A? If I take it at a different school, I feel as if I can get an A but obviously there arent guarantees. I'm leaning towards dropping... but any input would be great. Please help! Thanks.

Nothing wrong with a B+. Are you that much of a perfectionist? However, if you can drop without getting a W and you are sure you can get an A, then why not do it? If you cannot drop without getting a W, then the B= will look much better than a W and an A later.

 

[medic170]

Im serious yall I have all B's in my pre req's and in lab
Gen chem 1 f,d (i have to retake it a third time)
gen chem 2 d (have to retake)

Please give me some advice. I have 2 A's in upper division bio classes

Ok, now you have got me confused. you said you got B's in all your prerequisite coursework and labs, and on the next line, you list that you failed chem 1 twice and failed chem 2 once so far(as a premed, anything less than a C or 2.0 is failing). So, which is it? Did you get B's or did you fail. Maybe I missed something, please clarify.

Secondly, if you did fail chemistry twice, how is it that your school even allowed you to enroll in chem 2? Most universities will not let you enroll in the chem 2 until you get at least a 2.0 in chem 1.

Thirdly, if you did fail chem 1 twice, and chem 2 once, you really need to be asking yourself why. Now, we all make mistakes, and plenty of people have failed a class, retaken it, and still got into med school. However, after failing twice, you may want to rethink your career choice. After that, if your still set on medicine, I think you should do some serious seraching to find out why you are doing so poorly and address the problem before you take any more premedical classes.

lastly, if the case is that you have nothing but B's in your premed classes, I would NOT recommend retaking them. Instead, first figure out why you could not get any A's (study methods etc.) Once your ready, take some upper level sciences rather than retaking the premed classes to up that science gpa. Thats my 2 cents

 

[bubbajones]

No I passed gen chem 1 and 2 with B's ...those are my lab grades

I had an 89 in chem 2...i was so close to an A but my prof gave me a B that pi$$ed me off.

 

[bubbajones]

bump

 

[bubbajones]

😕

 

[samenewme]

Yes, you should try to retake the labs if you can. I noticed you re-took the first lab and only went up from an F to a D. Do you know what went wrong, and how you'll fix it? If you're going to retake, you really need to nail that lab with an A and be able to tell adcoms how you figured out what you were doing wrong adn how you fixed it and came back strong.

 

[bubbajones]

The first time I took it was over the summer and I thought I dropped it, but it showed up as an F on my transcript. Then I retook it and made a D (abscences killed my grade) I am just wondering do adcoms weigh the lab grades heavy as much as they do the classes?

 

[bubbajones]

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[Superflyjsc]

Are lab grades factored into gen chem grades at the end? If not, do schools look at your lab grades in addition to your gen chem grade or do they not care about what grade u got in your labs?

 

[bubbajones]

at my school you get a seperate grade for your labs its not factored in with the lecture. Do ADCOMS weigh labs heavily?

 

[r_salis]

It all becomes part of your calculated GPA -- though of course a 2 credit lab will "count" less than the 4 credit lecture, but a poor lab grade will still affect your final GPA. Also, any poor grade will stand out on an application, whether it's a lab or lecture class.

 

[bubbajones]

I have mainly all B's on my transcript. Is that bad? My premed advisor is an a$$ says I cant get in med school because Im not a straight A student. Should I take easy classes and make A's to raise my gpa\?

 

[medic170]

I have mainly all B's on my transcript. Is that bad? My premed advisor is an a$$ says I cant get in med school because Im not a straight A student. Should I take easy classes and make A's to raise my gpa\?

Dude, you need to chill out!!

 

[bubbajones]

just need some advice man.

 

[chopper]

If your advisor said you can't get in because you are not a 'straight A' student, he's a *****. If he said 'you will have serious trouble getting into med school as a straight B student', he's probably on to something. I'm not sure what he said or how he said it, but I know sometimes people hear things differently than how they were meant to be heard.

Advisors are people too, they are sometimes good and sometimes bad. I think the advising at Loyola is particularly good. But, I also know people who have been told by Loyola's pre-health office that they can't go through the committee. It invariable turns out that there is some massive reason for this (usually associated with a low GPA). Comittee's are there for you, but they are also there for future classes, and need to ensure a letter from them means something, so they are only going to let through candidates with reasonable chances of making it in.

Getting into med school is a bit of a crap shoot - but one where you do control how good your odds are. Sooooo - if you have awesome grades, MCAT, etc - you have a very good probability of getting in. If you low grades, MCAT, or whatever in one or more categories - your odd drop off quickly. Do people with 3.0/25 get into med school? Sure - but there are also people who win the $10,000 scratch game lottery daily.

I would recommend: Look at your overall and science GPA. If they are well below the average of the medical schools you want to go to - you need to work on getting it raised up. If you are planning on going post-bacc anyway, forget about the pre-health advisor at your school and get ready to rock in classes after you leave there. LASTLY: Don't take anything you hear from and advisor - or SDN - or anywhere - at face value. (of course, in a civil and tactful way) - if they say it can't be done, you say 'why not and what do I need to change my chances'. Don't let one 'A#$' deter you from your goal.