I am trying to set up 3rd year rotations, most hospitals seem to only accept 4th years, especially for gas. Any advice on hospitals? How important is it to rotate before applying? I hear people applied to 30 different residency spots, they couldn't have rotated at all of them, right?
How important is it to rotate at a hospital before applying?
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relax... wow. just get through 3rd year. you have a lot of medicine to learn before you will get the most out of an anesthesia rotation, let alone bumbling around in front of the people you want to impress. 1 or 2 away rotations is probably all your school will allow anyway.
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DreamJob said:
no real need to stress about away rotations. my advice is to do one in a region of the country you are unsure about just to see how you fit in that general geographic area before bothering to apply to any of the programs there. i.e. if you are in the midwest and have never been to the northeast, rotate at a NYC program, and vice versa. or just rotate somewhere like NYC or California to have fun for a month. live it up, stay out all night, experiment with weird cactus drinks.
keep in mind i give lousy advice.
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Trisomy13 said:
Not as lousy as mine!
I say quit school now and become an exotic dancer - no worries, no away rotations.
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Trisomy13 said:
Nope. You give great advice, especially the cactus drink line.
Although I don't think a rotation is paramount, especially if you've got the numerical goods, familiarity is a good thing.
A dude named Raj landed a spot in our residency because of his hard work during his 4th year rotation...maybe he wouldda gotten it anyway, but who knows. Didnt hurt.
Here's Jet's (maybe s hitty) advice:
Hedge Your Bet.
Do a rotation at an institution close to you, or wherever is convenient to you...maybe your med school. May not be your top choice, but probably a place you will rank, at least somewhere.
Work hard, and create the illusion that you REALLY wanna go there, even if you're kinda wishy washy about it.
If theres a program (or 2, or 3) you like but couldnt rotate there for whatever reason (i know...i was a resident too...family, money, etc), rank them above your sure thing .
Now you're golden.
Keep in mind this match thing is a game...and residencies are playing just as hard as you are to collect the picks they want.
Do they care about YOU?
Don't fool yourself.
Business is business. The only person in this game with your interests at the top of the list is you.
The (ex) Chairman of Anesthesia at my med school played dirty pool...he'd promise you a spot BEFORE the match if you committed early....and if you didnt play the dirty little game, there were no guarantees. Keep in mind there were no written contracts of a commitment...
he wanted to make sure he filled his 35 (or so) spots every year...
so I played the game, said "I'm in", and ranked where I wanted to go above U of Miami.
Matched #1 pick.
Sorry. Business is business.
I can play hardball. So can you. Don't ever forget:
Trust NOONE, and look out for your own interests in the match game.
YOU are the commodity, no matter what they tell you.
jetproppilot said:
now that Lubarsky's at the helm, things seem to be looking up for "little havana" so how would you rate miami anesthesia in this day and age compared to your time...was Candiotti program director then?
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GMO2003 said:
Nope..he wasnt there yet.
I'm sure things are much different there now...actually I could've ended up there and wouldda been happy...just happened to like Tulane better...was a smaller program, wanted to see another part of the country for a while, etc
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jetproppilot said:
Me: "JPP, how did you go from Miami to New Orleans to wind up in (small Louisiana) city XYZ?"
JPP: "Trin, I ask myself that question frequently."
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trinityalumnus said:Me: "JPP, how did you go from Miami to New Orleans to wind up in (small Louisiana) city XYZ?"
JPP: "Trin, I ask myself that question frequently."
And for those of you in the dark, this was an actual conversation that took place (more than once)...Trin would just walk away, shaking his head.
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In regards to what hte OP had saidDreamJob said:
Personally, having completed my anesthesiology rotations, here's my advice.
Learn the tricks of the trade...ie at your OWN med school during your OB and surgery rotations. Ask all you dumb/stupid questions, especially if you dont think you will be ranking your own school. Sure, you may piss off the surgeons/OBs at your school because you are all up in the anesthesia aspect.. But remember balance it out so that you actually LEARN OB/Surgery.
Then...try to do atleast two away rotations in Anesthesia that actually count. Bust your a$$. Show genuine interest. If you are faking it, believe me the residents/attendings will spot you (I've seen many students fall in this category). How can you be spotted? well for the most part, anesthesiologists are laid back and can easily spot these things.
Again I'm a MSIV and these are just MY experiences.
