Well OMM conquered Spanish Flu so clearly it'll conquer Covid-19, nothing to fear.
win
We've gone to distance learning. Doing labs will be more challenging. Exams? Maybe via social distancing.
Kim said iRATs are honors system. Did he mention full exams? I can see that ending horribly if there's no way to monitor things.
ARCOM. UAMS did the same thing apparently.
I might have misheard, as I was listening online. But I thought Dr. Gustafson said iRATs would be honors too, not Kim. But again, could be wrong.
I know our Dean was throwing around a few ideas too like open book or honors system for exams.
yeah you're right about gustafson. it seemed like they were still figuring stuff out. I feel bad for Dr. G... he works so hard for that class and he's great in lectures. gonna miss him.
“Clinicals”? You’re a nursing student?
Is this a joke? I thought that the word “clinical” could easily be understood to mean medical school rotations, clerkships or whatever we do in 3rd year within the context of this forum. I guess I overestimated some people’s ability to make reasonable inferences from my statements. I’ll try to be excessively descriptive in the future so you don’t have to do the work of reading in between the lines.
The joke appears to be you, bud . “Clinicals” is nursing terminology. You conflate your own naivety with your inaccurately perception of someone else’s knowledge. In this case, I knew what I was saying and you did not
Lol it’s not being a dick, it’s called using the correct terminology and you’re a fool if you don’t think Nursing terminology has slowly crept its way into medical decorum purposely, as another vantage to purposely blur the lines amongst “providers”. Have you sat in on boards meeting with the c-suites? In my past life I have and you accepting such blurrying is 100% the end goal
You're getting quite worked up over wording that literally everyone understands the meaning of. I'm sure they didn't mean to cause such a disruption to your every day life
Idk man. I don't think half the world gives two ****s which words you use. This is why physicians get a reputation as egomaniacs sometimes. Maybe I'm in the minority but wording really won't affect my every day life and won't affect my career either.
This problem was going to happen no matter what anyone said because $$$. Don't delude yourself and think if physicians were more vocal this would change a thing. Everyone wants to cut costs so admin can continue to be paid out the ass for doing next to nothing and working 30 hours a week
Doesn’t bother me a bit. In fact, I am now MORE inclined to use the word “clinicals” to refer to the second half of medical school.
Are you being sarcastic? I fail to see how it is 'sloppy af and makes no sense'. That's literally every reason given when cutting physician numbers and payroll, when slashing overall staffing and/or going with cheaper crappy supplies. Its why there are hiring freezes and increased patient loads all while the CEO, useless admins (for the most part) continue to make exorbitant amounts of money just pushing paper around doing next to nothing.
www.sj-r.com
Here's a useful link. Give it a close read. I really hope things are alright in your life and I hope your behavior does change for the better.
I mean, this are the institutions that make you do cervical HVLA on eath other, which has no benefit and known risks.
Thanks for actually providing data points I can use. Most dont. My point is everyone loves to complain and get all bent out of shape on here but you’ll never find them actually going out and doing anything about it. If you’re that passionate about these types of things, go change it instead of resorting to going off on people on an anonymous forumThere have been some examples of times when physicians lobbying together got things done. Like when the Optometrists were trying to get surgical rights in Illinois and other states. Ophthalmologists said "no" and it helped keep the status quo. You don't think hospitals would love hiring Optometrists in a surgical capacity for far less salaries than Ophthalmologists?
Ophthalmology Needs You to Protect Surgical Safety
An update on scope of practice issues, and why they matter to you.www.aao.org
Illinois eye doctors at odds over who can perform procedures
Patients’ health would be put at risk if optometrists in Illinois are successful in their quest for state approval to remove benign nodules andEffort to keep OD surgery out of VA gains key Senate supporter
Ocular Surgery News | The chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee expressed support last month for efforts to keep optometrists from performing surgery in the VA health care system. Sen. Arlen Specter, R.-Pa., assured members of the Veterans Eye Treatment Safety (VETS) Coalition...www.healio.com
In Illinois and numerous other states, Ophthalmologists crushed the Optometry lobbyists and halted Optometry encroachment into eye surgery.
This kind of stuff should have happened in fields like Anesthesiology when CRNAs starting blurring the lines, and should have happened in FM and IM when NPs started claiming that they are "equal to a physician but with better bedside manners"...
If Ophthalmologists did what you are saying to do (basically just lie down and take it), you'd be seeing Optometry surgical clinics popping up everywhere and Optometrists replacing general Ophthalmologists at hospitals. Great idea.
K thx for the reading suggestion. I'm gonna go ahead and keep doing what I'm doing but I appreciate the guidance I so desperately neededYou’d rather have data than logic?
You say we do nothing, yet you also say it’s an anonymous forum... So you actually don’t know what we do outside of it...
Most people can do multiple things at once like being passionate about an issue while simultaneously refuting ill logic on SDN.
However, I can only do one thing at a time... In fact I’m holding my breath as I type this... So you’re right I need to get back to the mid-level creep fight because I’ve halted all activity on that to write this post...
If anyone wants to talk about real mid-level creep follow me over to reddit where people see the writing on the wall and don’t passively sit there... You’ll find organizations there that you can volunteer with and donate to.
Also ChiBuck you’d benefit from this read
Who Moved My Cheese? - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
If logic tells you shiz is afoot... You best change before someone can copy and paste some data of people that saw the writing on the wall before you!
Honestly though, I understand your logic as well... Data is important and at that specific moment I wanted to refute logic than actually provide something that would’ve changed your mind...
At our school, your partner for a practical can say that they're uncomfortable having you thrust and then you just demonstrate the motion you would do instead of actually doing it.
