How long before there are no jobs left?

[nimbus]

Value added, like get an MBA. Honestly all of medicine is screwed. Anesthesia, Rad-onc, and us are just the first victims.

The only place there’s a job shortage for anesthesia is on SDN. In real life, the market is great at the moment.

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[RuralEDDoc]

The only place there’s a job shortage for anesthesia is on SDN. In real life, the market is great at the moment.

Agree. Anesthesiologists are still, generally speaking, doing quite well. RadOnc, not so much. Talk about getting the rug pulled out from underneath you.

 

[wamcp]

So with that projection by 2030 of 1/5 EM docs not able to get a job what things should incoming residents do to make themselves more marketable for employment? Does training in the city you want to practice give any weight? Fellowship? if willing to go really rural (ie middle of kansas type rural) are you more likely to find jobs? Any specific ways to best network as a resident to increase employment prospects??

Easy solution. Do what Canada been doing. 1/5 of their doc grads are unemployed and they simply move to America and (literally) take your job. So that means you just need to move south to Mexico! Be sure to pick up medical spanish while in residency

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Around 20% of specialists cannot find work at the time of their certification, according to a survey by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons.

Many eventually end up leaving Canada for the United States or other countries where they will be able to practise in their chosen fields, taking their skills and the government’s investment with them. “We advise them to be flexible about where they consider practising, either in Canada or internationally,” said Fréchette.

 

[emergentmd]

Agree. Anesthesiologists are still, generally speaking, doing quite well. RadOnc, not so much. Talk about getting the rug pulled out from underneath you.

The biggest factor in the downward spiral of EM jobs was the proliferation of NP online schools and uber penetration of NPs in the ER.

CRNAs make 200K/yr so their pay delta is much closer to an anesthesiologist. Wait until CRNA schools start to realize that they can create online CRNA schools and their pay will plummet to 125k/yr

Once that happens, the gap will be big enough for hospitals to realize that they will just hire CRNAs and have a few anesthesiologist manage any problems.

 

[MechEDoc]

Anyone else having no luck finding jobs currently? Are all future classes trapped into doing fellowship to get an academic job?? WHY DID I CHOSE ER?? I am attempting to find a metropolitan job in the midwest and am having zero luck for 2 months now. Will it get better?

Yes. Jobs are scarce.

Future classes are screwed. Fellowships generally don't lead to a different field of medicine (IM->interventional cardiology vs geriatrics), just a more detailed knowledge of another flavor of emergency medicine. The market still won't have a need for all those EM docs.

You / we choose ER because it seemed like a good idea, but I missed the larger market forces and got totally screwed.

It won't get better for several years if ever.

 

[SunBakedTrash]

Value added, like get an MBA. Honestly all of medicine is screwed. Anesthesia, Rad-onc, and us are just the first victims.

Pathology has been the biggest turd on **** mountain for decades thanks to consolidation, corporatization and boomer greed. Jobs are scarce and English competency scarcer. Everyone else is catching up. Agree with you 100%. Stay away from hospital-based specialties with high overhead if you value independence or control.