how many chances does one gets for Med school?

[Rainforest]

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[njbmd]

What happens to your friend is very school-dependent. Since he failed a re-take of a course, the promotions committee may not allow him to continue or they may dismiss him and have him reapply for admission that is start over. Again, the rules and regulations of the school that he attends (he should have them in his student handbook) will determine his fate.

When students have trouble, the best course of action is to ask for help early and ask for time to deal with any personal problems before they become academic problems. The vast majority of people who fail in medical school don't fail because they are not intellectually able to do the work but because something (illness, personal problems etc.) prevents them from putting in the time that coursework demands.

At the first sign of trouble, people need to ask for help and be willing to take time off to deal with anything that threatens to derail your academics. You never want to be in a position where academically you cannot "dig out". Deans of Student Affairs are the starting point. Go early and go often when things go wrong so that you don't end up in a position where you can be dismissed for academics.

 

[Rainforest]

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[OncHeme2B]

Please tell your friend to apply to a Caribbean school IMMEDIATELY. They will take you, no probs, as long as the dismissal wasn't for cheating or bad behavior (fights, vandalism etc). Just make sure that when he gets there, he DOES NOT FAIL ANYTHING ELSE because faculty at carib schools are NOT sympathetic to academic failures since they are already giving you a second chance.

Good luck 🙂

 

[Tired]

Please tell your friend to apply to a Caribbean school IMMEDIATELY.

Worst advice ever.

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

Worst advice ever.

👍 He's failed M2 year what, 3 times? No the Caribbean is not the answer. His attitude of "suck it up and move on" may have been an extremely damaging one thus far, but it's perhaps not a bad way of looking at things now. So he's apparently not cut out to be a doctor, based not only on the academic failures but also the more worrisome part about being unwilling to remove himself from a harmful situation and follow through with help/counseling. More worrisome because, what happens if is readmitted, manages to get through to residency only to have these problems recur? Stakes are higher then as his patients and coworkers will be depending on him. Anyway, my advice is to man up and accept responsibility for his part (the committee let him down, it's his culture's fault for not seeking help, etc.), deal with the personal issues, then find something to do in life that might be better suited to his interests and abilities.

 

[PeepshowJohnny]

More worrisome because, what happens if is readmitted, manages to get through to residency only to have these problems recur? Stakes are higher then as his patients and coworkers will be depending on him.

I think that's a very valid point. This isn't a single isolated incident or bad patch at this point, this guy just doesn't cope well with stress or adversity at this point. Even though he's smart and nice, if he can't handle the bad times I just don't think medicine is right for him. It's like picking between your run of the mill Taurus and a Ferrari that breaks down. Sure the sports car is flashier and faster, but only when it works so it's going to lose a lot of races.

And also worth mentiong, he failed path and pharm. This isn't failing one of those touchy feely type classes because the prof. didn't like your ethics essay or you didn't kiss enough ass about how great it is to be a doctor. He failed bread and butter medicine and that's going to scare a lot of people.

 

[dizzle69]

Please tell your friend to apply to a Caribbean school IMMEDIATELY. They will take you, no probs, as long as the dismissal wasn't for cheating or bad behavior (fights, vandalism etc). Just make sure that when he gets there, he DOES NOT FAIL ANYTHING ELSE because faculty at carib schools are NOT sympathetic to academic failures since they are already giving you a second chance.

Good luck 🙂

I love your obsession with telling people to go Caribbean when they fail. Is it really THAT bad, where they take American medical student rejects in addition to American pre-med rejects? Do you attend a Caribbean school or something?

 

[Law2Doc]

Worst advice ever.

Agree. The smartest course is always to talk to the folks at your current school, and try to get back on track. Carribean might be a remote last resort for the OP's friend, but never the first choice approach in such a situation. There are folks who get second, third and even fourth chances at US schools, but that tends to only happen when you talk to the administration folks, show them that you are trying, and get them invested in working with you.

 

[OncHeme2B]

Ok. See I don't know the OP personally so I can't give personal advice. From what I see from his friend wrote he has been really trying, and apparently was it only one course that gave him so much trouble? They should have taken that into consideration?? Anyway I was just saying if he doesn't get the chance to reapply to the US school then he could possibly transfer into a carib one. BUT ONLY IF HE GETS HIS ACT TOGETHER. Because Carib faculty are even more unsympathetic to academic failures than US faculty. From what I've seen of my friends at carib schools, I saw many students get kicked out and not being allowed to repeat for failing something. Plus they are notorious for dismissing people over one little screwup, such as failing a shelf or something. but it sounds like the OP is down to his last chances with his first school. so a foreign school may be his best bet but it is up to him. Good luck 🙂

 

[Amy B]

This situation is most unfortunate. I knew someone at my school who started in the class above me, failed pharm and was held back to join our class. He then failed pharm again and failed teh remediation. He was asked to leave for this among a few other things that I wont go into. Last I heard he had intentions of going to a carribean. I worry about him and all the loans he already has from his years at my school. I dont think the Carribean is the answer. Your friend needs to seek some professional help as to why he has failed. Maybe it is undiagnoised depression, or learning disablilty or something else that needs to be addressed.

If this is something he truely wants, he needs to get in contact with his school and see if there is anything else they can do for him so that he can get the help he needs.

There are people that just cant handle the classes in med school no matter how much they want it. Wanting something doesnt mean guarantee of getting something. Sad, but true.

I wish your friend the best of luck in his decision.

 

[OncHeme2B]

Yeah good luck with whatever you do. Hang in there and reflect on what challenges life is throwing at you. You have to overcome whatever it is that is your roadblock to success. And whatever it is, do some soul searching, listen to your head and your gut, and then decide deep in your heart what it is you want to do. ONLY YOU WILL KNOW if medicine is right for you. There is only so much advice we can give you here - what is in your heart cannot lie. Good luck 🙂

 

[Rainforest]

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